ok thanks to all for the help with the shutdown problem, On to the next, ive got my bios settings to read from the CDrom drive to boot 1st but no matter which disk i put in (windows full Xp) or the HD configure disk it just doesnt to a thing sits on the black screen its been awhile since my last new build(4 years) i cant see things changing to much to the point of having so many problems so any help in this area woiuld be greatly appreciated