Certain Windows 11 built-in apps won't work for some users

nanoguy

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Why it matters: Early adopters of Microsoft’s Windows 11 operating system have had to contend with the usual collection of bugs and glitches, ranging from performance regressions to printing issues and everything between. Some people may even find they can’t use some built-in apps, but luckily there’s a fix for that.

Windows 11 is evolved from Windows 10, which is both a blessing and a curse. Microsoft has spent the past several years perfecting Windows 10, which means its successor is also based on a relatively mature core. At the same time, it has inherited various bugs and glitches that some early adopters have discovered in the past few weeks.

One notable issue is related to printers, which don’t seem to work in certain scenarios. Other issues are less visible to the average user, such as memory leaks in File Explorer when opening several windows on a daily basis, something that can lead to less RAM being available for any other apps you might use.

More recently, someone discovered that Windows 11 can flood your HDD or SSD with thousands of empty folders. This won’t impact performance or take any significant amount of space on your storage drive, but it’s a perfect example of old Windows 10 warts reappearing in Windows 11.

This week, some of you may have also found that you can no longer use or even open certain built-in apps such as Get Started, Tips, Snipping Tool, Touch Keyboard, Voice Typing, Emoji Panel, and Input Method Editor user interface (IME UI), as well as the accounts page and landing page in the Settings app for Windows 11 S users.

Microsoft says the issue only affects people that have not yet installed the KB5006746 update that was released on October 21, and S mode users are more likely to experience this problem.

The affected apps rely on a certificate that expired on October 31, and the best way to solve this problem is to manually install the latest update, as it will renew the expired certificate. KB5006746 is currently marked as an optional update, but it will soon be offered to everyone as part of the November Patch Tuesday update.

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SirDigby

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I installed W11 yesterday - I was doing a fresh install and thought I'd at least try it. Had some issues right off the bat.
- Snipping Tool doesn't work for me, raised a ticket.
- Bluestacks and LD Player weren't working, raised a ticket but I have resolved it by disabling the Memory Integrity in Core Isolation in the Device Security Settings, now it works fine.
- Edge closed when a website timed out due to inactivity, the button wasn't meant to refresh but it closed instead.

Aside from that, I actually quite like the UI refresh, its more like a spring clean and you can move the taskbar back to the left rather than centred, but I'm trying it out.
 

VitalyT

Posts: 6,171   +6,654
Windows 11 is evolved from Windows 10, which is both a blessing and a curse.
Did you mean devolved? I do not remember Windows 10 having so many issues when it was launched.

Microsoft has spent the past several years perfecting Windows 10, which means its successor is also based on a relatively mature core. At the same time, it has inherited various bugs and glitches that some early adopters have discovered in the past few weeks.
That's a contradiction. If it really were based on Windows 10, it wouldn't have inherited issues. Those are all new ones, not inherited, because it was loosely based on Windows 10. In other words, they broke it in more way than one.

I'm still livid with MS how they swore Windows 10 to be the last OS, with only updates to be released from there on. F. liars.
 

brucek

Posts: 1,102   +1,618
I'm still livid with MS how they swore Windows 10 to be the last OS, with only updates to be released from there on. F. liars.
Me too, especially since this fork appears so unnecessary. It's not such a big deal today. It'll be a very big deal in 2025, when they artificially cut off hundreds of millions of devices that are still quite capable for ordinary home & office use from security patch support.
 

zulu53

Posts: 109   +37
I installed W11 yesterday - I was doing a fresh install and thought I'd at least try it. Had some issues right off the bat.
- Snipping Tool doesn't work for me, raised a ticket.
- Bluestacks and LD Player weren't working, raised a ticket but I have resolved it by disabling the Memory Integrity in Core Isolation in the Device Security Settings, now it works fine.
- Edge closed when a website timed out due to inactivity, the button wasn't meant to refresh but it closed instead.

Aside from that, I actually quite like the UI refresh, its more like a spring clean and you can move the taskbar back to the left rather than centred, but I'm trying it out.
Sounds like all of this could have been or has been achieved in Win10-21H2, or am I missing something? Still, after all these fixes, trying to figure out why this OS is called Win11 and not Win10-21H2? You seem to know something about Windows OS software, any ideas?
 

zulu53

Posts: 109   +37
Did you mean devolved? I do not remember Windows 10 having so many issues when it was launched.


That's a contradiction. If it really were based on Windows 10, it wouldn't have inherited issues. Those are all new ones, not inherited, because it was loosely based on Windows 10. In other words, they broke it in more way than one.

I'm still livid with MS how they swore Windows 10 to be the last OS, with only updates to be released from there on. F. liars.
Don't be livid, you are wasting your energy and blood pressure. MS (and Bill Gates) have operated in the Marketing environment of "truth" since they put out the first "Windows" operating system - a GUI version of their reasonably good command line operating system (called MS-DOSv6.1 but going to be renamed by the Marketing Dept. into something more "sexy"). "Windows" by MS, was a Marketing department response to Apple who had focused on selling hardware to graphics people and therefore but in an inefficient OS with a GUI (compared to MS-DOS or VMS or any of the other "serious work" OS's at time. So MS offered both Command Line OS and GUI OS at the same time; with the GUI being another layer on top of MS-DOS, and making it more inefficient in the process until Moores Law could allow hardware to compensate for this inefficiency - took Windows OS about 2 years to catch up to MS-DOS. For a time you could buy them as separate OS's; untill WinNT came out (again the OS to end all OS's). What I am getting to: for MS its all about the marketing and the looks of the GUI - the bottom line core OS does not, in fact, change much from year to year except to allow more "drivers" as hardware improves, and it never has and never will need to. This is what MS confused people with. The Windows 10 core will not be changing much in the future (what they said, which is exactly true), it has gone as far as it can based on how it interacts with the current hardware BIOS based on transistor switches. Until the hardware BIOS needs to change; which it will do when we produce a non-transistor based computation system (quantum or neural computers, for example), there will be no improvements to be made to MS OS. Windows11 exists for pure marketing reasons (it has nothing to do with the OS itself) which they lie about - its easier to sell a 2021 car vs a 2020 car if you have new paint colors and a new steering wheel: regardless of the fact that the car itself is functionally identical from year to year.
 

Crinkles

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Don't be livid, you are wasting your energy and blood pressure. MS (and Bill Gates) have operated in the Marketing environment of "truth" since they put out the first "Windows" operating system - a GUI version of their reasonably good command line operating system (called MS-DOSv6.1 but going to be renamed by the Marketing Dept. into something more "sexy"). "Windows" by MS, was a Marketing department response to Apple who had focused on selling hardware to graphics people and therefore but in an inefficient OS with a GUI (compared to MS-DOS or VMS or any of the other "serious work" OS's at time. So MS offered both Command Line OS and GUI OS at the same time; with the GUI being another layer on top of MS-DOS, and making it more inefficient in the process until Moores Law could allow hardware to compensate for this inefficiency - took Windows OS about 2 years to catch up to MS-DOS. For a time you could buy them as separate OS's; untill WinNT came out (again the OS to end all OS's). What I am getting to: for MS its all about the marketing and the looks of the GUI - the bottom line core OS does not, in fact, change much from year to year except to allow more "drivers" as hardware improves, and it never has and never will need to. This is what MS confused people with. The Windows 10 core will not be changing much in the future (what they said, which is exactly true), it has gone as far as it can based on how it interacts with the current hardware BIOS based on transistor switches. Until the hardware BIOS needs to change; which it will do when we produce a non-transistor based computation system (quantum or neural computers, for example), there will be no improvements to be made to MS OS. Windows11 exists for pure marketing reasons (it has nothing to do with the OS itself) which they lie about - its easier to sell a 2021 car vs a 2020 car if you have new paint colors and a new steering wheel: regardless of the fact that the car itself is functionally identical from year to year.

User discovers that software, is iterative.
 

lazer

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I am a windows hater. I have 3 computers. an old XL on which I use Linux, a several year old Toshiba which I erased win8 and installed win7 with NO updates. and this new one my son gave me 2 months ago with win10, I will never update. since M$lop can never do it right.
 

captaincranky

Posts: 18,527   +7,370
I'm still livid with MS how they swore Windows 10 to be the last OS, with only updates to be released from there on. F. liars.
Dude, if you couldn't tell Nadella was a pushy sleaze bag, a con artist, and a liar, when he first appeared on the scene, your skills on judging people need some refining.

Although this is a very loose interpolation, or analog if you will, did you ever notice that in ads for online gambling casinos, no one ever loses? I mean the casinos must be in business out of the goodness of their hearts, simply for the purposes of giving away money..

Then there's the disclaimer: "Gambling Problem 1-800- gambler"

So, if you were led to believe that Windows 10 was the last version ever, dial: 1-800 screwed
 

VitalyT

Posts: 6,171   +6,654
Although this is a very loose interpolation, or analog if you will, did you ever notice that in ads for online gambling casinos, no one ever loses? I mean the casinos must be in business out of the goodness of their hearts, simply for the purposes of giving away money..

Then there's the disclaimer: "Gambling Problem 1-800- gambler"

So, if you were led to believe that Windows 10 was the last version ever, dial: 1-800 screwed
It's like on the Muppet Show, when Statler keeps throwing coins into a machine that promises to tell his most important trait. Once he's finally out of coins, the machine reads out - "your main trait, sir - you are squanderous".
 

Crinkles

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I am a windows hater. I have 3 computers.

I hate computers in general. These ones I work on in particular.

Life sucks.

an old XL on which I use Linux

I'm sorry someone has beaten you.

a several year old Toshiba which I erased win8 and installed win7 with NO updates. and this new one my son gave me 2 months ago with win10, I will never update. since M$lop can never do it right.

MS will push updates right out there over the 'net, that's a whole lot better than the job you're /not/ doing.

Turn on auto-updates, help save a planet.
 

Bamda

Posts: 329   +154
This is why I do not purchase new games, new hardware, and new OS. I let others beta test the bugs for me. :)