Chinese chipmaker is getting close to release a GPU that approximates Nvidia's GeForce...

nanoguy

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Why it matters: China has been quietly developing CPUs and GPUs for years, but it's been trying to accelerate existing projects without much tangible success as of late. Still, now and then, we hear about another small breakthrough made by a Chinese company. Such is the case of Jingjia Micro, which is getting closer to releasing a graphics card that could potentially come close to the performance of a GeForce GTX 1080.

So far, we've seen a lot more action in the CPU space from Chinese companies like Zhaoxin, which are trying to develop x86 processors that can catch up to and eventually compete with those made by Intel and AMD. However, GPUs have not seen nearly the same attention being devoted to them.

One notable exception is Jingjia Micro (also known as Jingjiawei), which started as a military-civilian company developing and manufacturing military-grade electronics. Almost three years ago, the company said it was working on its own discrete high-performance graphics card after successfully launching China's first domestic GPU.

According to a report from MyDrivers, Jingjia Micro is getting ready to launch not one but two graphics cards. The first is an entry-level model called JM9231 that will offer performance around the level of a GeForce GTX 1050 or Radeon RX 560. The second, more ambitious one, is the JM9271, which is supposedly able to keep up with a GeForce GTX 1080 or AMD's RX Vega 64.

  JM9231 GTX 1050 JM9271 GTX 1080
API Support OpenGL 4.5, OpenCL 1.2 OpenGL 4.6, DX12 OpenGL 4.5, OpenCL 2.0 OpenGL 4.6, DX12
Boost Clock Rate > 1,500 MHz 1,455 MHz > 1,800 MHz 1,733 MHz
Bus Width PCIe 3.0 PCIe 3.0 PCIe 4.0? PCIe 3.0
Memory Bandwidth 256 GB/s 112 GB/s 512 GB/s 320 GB/s
Memory Capacity/Type 8GB GDDR5 2GB GDDR5 16GB HBM 8GB GDDR5X
Pixel Rate > 32 GPixel/s 46.56 GPixel/s > 128 GPixel/s 110.9 GPixel/s
FP32 Performance 2 TFLOPs 1.8 TFLOPs 8 TFLOPs 8.9 TFLOPs
Output options HDMI 2.0, DisplayPort 1.3 HDMI 2.0, DisplayPort 1.4 HDMI 2.0, DisplayPort 1.3 HDMI 2.0, DisplayPort 1.4

Video Encoding

H.265/4K 60FPS H.265/4K 60FPS H.265/4K 60FPS H.265/4K 60FPS
TDP 150W 75W 200W 180W

Digging deeper, the JM9231 will integrate 8 GB of GDDR5 memory and offer two teraflops of FP32 performance with a TDP of 150 watts, which would be an impressive feat for the Chinese company. As for the JM9271, it will come with 16 gigabytes of HBM memory and deliver 8 teraflops of compute power at a TDP of 200 watts.

That said, Jingjia Micro explains that it's still in early development stages for the two graphics cards, which still have to go through more testing before the company can begin trial production runs. Efficiency is not a strong point of these, though performance is somewhat promising if they're comparable -- at least on paper -- to GPUs from several years ago that are still fairly capable in the case of the GTX 1080. There's also no word on DirectX or Vulkan API support, so it's possible the JM9231 and JM9271 cards may never end up in a gaming PC.

Overall, it doesn't look like China has made strides on this front yet despite pouring billions into subsidies for its semiconductor industry. Just as we've seen with the country's CPU efforts, progress is slow, and few companies have the engineering know-how to pursue such projects.

The only other prominent companies known to be working on GPUs are Huawei's HiSilicon subsidiary and Tianshu Zhixin Semiconductor, which are both working on GPGPUs for the Asian server market.

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YouShallNotPass

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Can you imagine the built in spying China will have in this device? Imagine having this in millions of PC's phoning home to China.

May be buy a gaming PC in low price just for gaming and then do all the information sensitive activity on another trustworthy device?
 

godrilla

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Even Intel is more trustworthy than a random Chinese company.
Most take these claims as a mountain of salt or a country of salt can't decide some just believe anything especially coming from a region without independent freelance journalism!
 

shark975

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it's been long since america doesn't make a lot of tech. A lot of the chips these days are designed by india, china, israel, germany, uk, etc. us is there, but it isn't what you'd call the source of the tech anymore.


What do you mean make? Apple, Intel, Nvidia dominate tech more than ever. Even Sony used to build consoles with bespoke tech like the Ps2, now they have no chance but to rely on western tech from AMD. If they did bespoke tech the new Xbox would be 5x as powerful, it would be suicide.

You seem to be conflating the manufacturing with the design and engineering and company headquarters. Like Apple makes everything overseas, but it is an American company.
 

shark975

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Even Intel is more trustworthy than a random Chinese company.


It's getting fairly arguable. Google Fb Twitter etc censor opposition to the ruling Biden admin etc in the same way perhaps in some cases as the China govt. Is google less evil than the chinese govt? Maybe.
 

shark975

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Ok about the article, TBH old tech coming back might be the only way out of this GPU shortage. Just like rumor was Nvidia was going to produce a huge batch of 2080 or something. I think there'd be plenty of market for such cards if reasonably priced, like $400.

It's a long way from fruition but something like this could help more than much I've seen proposed lately. But yeah a long way from reality.
 

godrilla

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What do you mean make? Apple, Intel, Nvidia dominate tech more than ever. Even Sony used to build consoles with bespoke tech like the Ps2, now they have no chance but to rely on western tech from AMD. If they did bespoke tech the new Xbox would be 5x as powerful, it would be suicide.

You seem to be conflating the manufacturing with the design and engineering and company headquarters. Like Apple makes everything overseas, but it is an American company.
Western monopolies are addicted to Ch!nese manufacturing despite all the risks although some recently Intel are investing in Europe and west.
 

godrilla

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It's getting fairly arguable. Google Fb Twitter etc censor opposition to the ruling Biden admin etc in the same way perhaps in some cases as the China govt. Is google less evil than the chinese govt? Maybe.
More like in order to get access to that market they comply in censorship across the board. It's all about that Yuan!
 

hwertz

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1) I think the harping on China is ridiculous. I'm not a fan of China's policies, but the US continues to run the illegal and unconstitutional widespread spying programs that Snowden leaks covered (and UK has one too). So China shouldn't spy on it's citizens, but complaining about it is hypocritical unless you complain about your own government doing the same -- assuming you live in the US or UK. And it's worth mentioning, the only country caught red-handed shipping out tampered hardware has been the United States, and that was decades ago (so China shouldn't do this, but as far as I know they aren't, and it's again hypocritical to harp on when, again, the only country caught doing it has been the US.)

2) Back on topic. Drivers! In the past (when it was not just ATI/AMD and Nvidia) the big fly in the ointment for many many chips was drivers. Linux tended to either have reasonably complete support or none at all. There were cards back then under Windows where they were buggy (games didn't look right or crashed), or much slower than they should be, due to incomplete, buggy, unoptimized drivers. Sometimes you'd have ones (Via, I'm looking at you) never really got completed (... I'm not really sure if they just found finishing the drivers was too difficult, or if the hardware just proved too difficult to program for...for instance, putting commands in a command queue is relatively easy, having to poke registers at just the right instant is difficult and error-prone.)