A few months ago all i heard was that my ti 4200 was underpowered to play todays games and that dx9 was impossible.I had to have a 5700 ultra or 9800xt(budget,best card).well i played madden 2004 with my ti 4200 and it played with alot of the settings turned down ,did'nt satisfy me so got 5700 didn't like got 9600xt hatededed it so igot 5700 ultra but it ain't all that reall not much better than my ti 4200. So for 230 busks about all i really got was dx9 not much of a performance bump.S if you want a better card you need to spend 500 dollars or else just keep your old card right?