Employees return to Tesla following Elon Musk's demands, find there are not enough desks...

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Old Molases

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Well, there you have it the reality of one of the famous personalities. I just fell like for people like money is the only thing they care for. It's like God to them.
 

mattferg

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Just recently, SpaceX managed 3 successful launches in two days time. NASA's Space Shuttle -- with a far larger budget -- counted itself lucky to manage that many per year. Starlink is already providing ultra-low latency, broadband Internet to areas utterly infeasible to serve with fiber. As for Hyperloop, your criticisms of it remind me of those who decried the "terrible idea" of horseless carriages that were far less reliable than the good old hayburners they'd spent their life riding. Jets waste the vast majority of their fuel fighting air resistance. Why on earth would an advanced society want to stick with antiquated technology like that?

And unlike those, HyperLoop has been proven time and again to be physically impossible
 

mattferg

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Just recently, SpaceX managed 3 successful launches in two days time. NASA's Space Shuttle -- with a far larger budget -- counted itself lucky to manage that many per year. Starlink is already providing ultra-low latency, broadband Internet to areas utterly infeasible to serve with fiber. As for Hyperloop, your criticisms of it remind me of those who decried the "terrible idea" of horseless carriages that were far less reliable than the good old hayburners they'd spent their life riding. Jets waste the vast majority of their fuel fighting air resistance. Why on earth would an advanced society want to stick with antiquated technology like that?

Jets are dumb - but why would you build a crazy expensive low capacity train in a vacuum tube where one crack fires the passengers like a gun and the length means the station would MOVE by 3 MILES in the day due to expansion? Why not just a high speed train, far safer, higher capacity, cheaper and almost as fast?
 

mattferg

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Twitter's own board of directors apparently believes it was well thought out.

June 23, 2022: Twitter Board Unanimously Approves Elon Musk Takeover....

As for this gaslighting story itself -- a shortage of parking and weak wi-fi at the corporate office. Oh, the horror!

He offered well above trading price - since the board is legally obligated to do what’s best for shareholders, they had to sell.
 

Endymio

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Jets are dumb - but why would you build a crazy expensive low capacity train in a vacuum tube where one crack fires the passengers like a gun and the length means the station would MOVE by 3 MILES in the day due to expansion? Why not just a high speed train, far safer, higher capacity, cheaper and almost as fast?
Eh? The fastest bullet trains run about 200mph. The Hyperloop is intended to run nearly 4 times faster -- and uses less energy to do so. The expansion issue is overstated -- we've been building underground train tunnels for over a century that have the issue worse. A few expansion joints every klick solve the problem.

As for safety concerns, given a hyperloop pod has a lower chance of derailing or collisions, that's probably a net gain. When airliners first began flying, people thought they were insanely unsafe as well. "Travelling in the sky? What if the wings fall off?"
[Musk] offered well above trading price - since the board is legally obligated to do what’s best for shareholders, they had to sell.
The board initially didn't think so. They first attempted to block his offer with a poison-pill share dilution scheme, and even blocked a shareholder vote on the request. It was the threat of a lawsuit for abrogation of fiduciary duty that made them relent.
 

Hooda Thunkett

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And unlike those, HyperLoop has been proven time and again to be physically impossible
Impossible? *SCOFFS* It's just high-speed rail with smaller, floating trains in a long tube held at a near vacuum over the length of the line. It only has the same issues as high-speed rail, with just, like, a bazillion others! Impossible? Hardly.
It's just wildly impractical. /S
 

McMurdeR

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Sounds like Elon caught his HR and Buildings people off guard! In any case Tesla is a factory so I kind of get where he's coming from..

On the other hand, if the job fits, remote working works amazingly well. Elon and co will have to compete with other employers in that new reality, so you'll never ever hear him endorse it, it's simply not in his interest.
 

Bruno M. Villar

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With the use of knime software, Human resources professionals at Tesla could easily upload data regarding parking slots, office spaces and how much workers exists. Knime would return a huge study showing if it would fit or not. If I were there, I would propose such study.
 

scavengerspc

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Eh? The fastest bullet trains run about 200mph. The Hyperloop is intended to run nearly 4 times faster
Eh? The fastest bullet train is the L0 Series Maglev which can run 374 mph.
I've ridden it, though back then it could "only" go 340 mph.

And all the top 7 can easily break 200 mph. The slowest can hit 245 mph.
And the HL is said to be a little faster than double the L0 Series.


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To fix my numbers.
 
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Endymio

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Eh? The fastest bullet train is the L0 Series Maglev which can run 374 mph.
I've ridden it, though back then it could "only" go 340 mph.
According to Wikipedia, that train isn't in commercial operation:

The first section to Nagoya is expected to be completed in 2027.

According the Japan's Railpass site, when it begins operation, it'll run slower than its record speed:

"Passengers will be able to get tickets for the new line in 2027. The trains will travel at a maximum speed of 505 km/h (313 mph)."

And that maximum speed is much faster than its average operational speed, of course, which will be about 260mph, based on comparison to previous trains.
 

scavengerspc

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According to Wikipedia, that train isn't in commercial operation:
True. They have been running much smaller public routes to test.


"Currently, the Series L0 and Series L0 Improved version are operating on the Yamanashi Maglev Line. Series L0, started running in 2013, is the first-generation vehicle built with specifications for commercial services.Series L0 improved version, started running in 2020, is the further brushed up version built based on various test data acquired from the original Series L0."

And this is from the very same Wiki YOU quoted:

"The first five-car train began test-running at the 42.8 km (26.6 mi) Yamanashi Maglev Test Line in June 2013, following completion of extension and upgrade work at the facility, earlier than the originally scheduled September date."

"After April 2015, the train returned to being used for public preview rides."

 
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Endymio

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this is from the very same Wiki YOU quoted:

"The first five-car train began test-running at the 42.8 km (26.6 mi) Yamanashi Maglev Test Line
We were discussing trains in actual commercial operation. If we're going to count test runs, then the Hyperloop is already in operation also. ;)
 

Shirley Dulcey

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Sounds like Elon caught his HR and Buildings people off guard! In any case Tesla is a factory so I kind of get where he's coming from..

On the other hand, if the job fits, remote working works amazingly well. Elon and co will have to compete with other employers in that new reality, so you'll never ever hear him endorse it, it's simply not in his interest.

Tesla is not only a factory. It's also a design and R&D company. The factory workers have been coming in all along, including non-compliance with California stay-at-home mandates during the early peak of the pandemic. The current thing is about office workers, who likely spend most of their working day in front of a computer, being required to come to the office.
 

McMurdeR

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Tesla is not only a factory. It's also a design and R&D company. The factory workers have been coming in all along, including non-compliance with California stay-at-home mandates during the early peak of the pandemic. The current thing is about office workers, who likely spend most of their working day in front of a computer, being required to come to the office.

Another reason why musk won't endorse working at home. It's hard to offer flexible working options to your office staff while your factory staff are looking on... they'd demand an allowance eventually. Its easier to just pretend that working from home is not a thing.
 

Shirley Dulcey

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Another reason why musk won't endorse working at home. It's hard to offer flexible working options to your office staff while your factory staff are looking on... they'd demand an allowance eventually. Its easier to just pretend that working from home is not a thing.
Most people are not 1d10ts. They understand that factory work requires physical presence, and that office work on a computer does not. Also, the offices and the factories are in different buildings for the most part, and often aren't even in the same location.
 

McMurdeR

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Because your employer wants you at work. (Why do These people think they are so special?)

I don't mean to be combative, but isn't that a little condescending?

They don't think that they're special, they think that their employer is wrong, and they frequently are.
 
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