As most of you probably know, the prices of Athlon X2 processors are going to drop once conroe is released. I have heard anywhere from 30-50%. I even found this chart which shows the prices of the x2 line after Conroe's launch. I have no idea how accurate it will prove to be. So, because I am already on a 939 setup, and I don't want to get new memory and another mobo, I want to use conroe's launch to get myself a cheap X2. The question is, which one? I currently have a 3500+ (which will be going to a friend or family member) and I wanted something that would be as good as that if not better even in single threaded programs. This will probably be done with some overclocking, but not a lot. I want to get to around 2.3-2.4 out of it, and I plan on getting an arctic cooling freezer 64 pro. My main question is, would the 2.2 ghz 4200+ be built any differently than the 2.0 ghz 3800? If I overclock my 3800 to the exact clock speed of the 4200, are they basically identical? I don't want to get a toledo because I've heard they run hotter and the extra L2 doesn't do as much as people think (It also helps that I'm cheap!), so I'm trying to decide between these two. Opinions?