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I blamed SATA but I was wrong - Help!

By scotty23 ยท 13 replies
Oct 20, 2006
  1. Hello All!

    I recently purchased an upgrade for an old tower. The upgrade included:

    • Albatron KM51 Series Socket 939 Mobo with NForce 4 chipset
    • AMD Athlon 64 3500+ (Venice) CPU
    • 512MB (Generic) DDR400 RAM
    • Leadtek WinFast PX6600GT Tdh 128MB PCI-E Graphics Card
    • LG DVD Writer
    • 80GB Western Digital SATA HDD

    I had a number of problems, including the Blue Screen of Death ntfs.sys on nearly every single boot, and restarts ALL THE TIME, for example when I double-clicked on an installer or went to run a program, just *Bang* I'd be back waiting for BIOS.

    So I took the SATA drive back (I was pretty sure that was the problem) and swapped it for an IDE 80GB Western Digital (I've heard very bad things about Western Digital hard drives but thought i'd try)

    I have since installed the IDE drive and am having SIMILAR problems, sometimes XP home SP2 will ATTEMPT to boot, get to the screen with the word "Welcome" and *bang* restart. Also when I run 3D Mark 2001 I get the Error : "File\data\gs2\LWO\TEXTURES\TOWNREFL_NEAR.DDS is corrupted"

    This is the same error i got with the SATA drive. THEREFORE I am assuming it's not the HDD.

    ANY IDEAS?? RAM? CPU? Graphics?

    Any help or ideas would be much appreiciated, Thanks.
  2. Rik

    Rik Banned Posts: 3,814

    Google and get memtest and test your rma with at leas a half dozen passes!!!!

    What make and wattage psu have you got???
  3. N3051M

    N3051M TS Evangelist Posts: 2,115

    Few questions if i may... :)

    Does Safe Mode work stable?
    are you just swapping the HDD from your old setup and installing it to your new rig?
    Or is this a fresh install onto the HDD from a winxp cd?
    did you assemble this rig by yourself or is this built by someone/OEM prebuild?
    Open up the case and post whatever it says on the PSU Info sticker here.
    Download Speedfan. Post a reading of what it says (temps, voltages)
  4. scotty23

    scotty23 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    It's an "XSonic" 450watt PSU

    Also i've encountered another problem, when I'm playing a game for a while the sound will freeze, then my computer goes *click* and restarts!!

    This is so incredibly frustrating!!!!! lol :confused:
  5. scotty23

    scotty23 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    It's a brand new Hard Drive (Got it out of the box yesterday)

    I partitioned, did full format and installed a clean copy of windows XP Home SP2

    I've now tried XP Pro as well and had the same problems :'(

    I assembled it by myself, but i've assembled at least 10 (for friends, family etc) in the last few months and none of them have behaved badly like this one! I'm definitely not saying i'm a pro but they normally work for me lol


    • Pentium IV ATX switching Power Supply
    • MODEL: SZ-450WP4
    • AC input: 220/110VAC 50/60HZ 2.5/5A
    • FUSE RATING: F6.3A 250VAC
    • DC output max +3.3v = 25A +5v = 36A +12v = 15A -5V = 0.5A -12v = 0.5A +5VSB = 2.5A
    • 450W


    VCOREA: 1.41V -12V: 1.71V
    VCOREB: 1.52V -5V: 2.49V
    +3.3V: 3.36V +5VSB 5.75V
    +5V: 5.16V VBAT 3.20V
    +12V: 12.22V

    Temp1: 33C Fan1: 3125 RPM
    Temp2: 34C
    Temp3: 29C
    Local Temp: 31C
    Remote Temp: 37C
    HD0: 36C
    Temp1: 39C
    Core 27C


    Scanning SMBus at $1C00...
    Decoding DIMM #0
    Memory type is DDR
    Module Rows : 2
    Levels : 2.5V
    Parity : NO PARITY
    Refresh Rate : 7.8us
    Total Size : 512MB
    Scanning SMBus at $1C40...
    Scanning SMBus at $3D403E3F...
    Scanning SMBus at $3D403637...
    Scanning SMBus at $3D405051...

    I'll post the MEMTEST results soon

    Umm let me know if you need anything else!

    Thanks heaps for your help guys!!! i'll check back soon.
  6. scotty23

    scotty23 TS Rookie Topic Starter


    I just went to install NERO to burn MEMTEST to CD and it went *click* but a blue screen of death this time, not a restart. I swore so loudly that it woke my girlfriend up, now it crashes every time I run the installer.

    It went something like this::

    A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage

    ***STOP: 0x00000024 (0x001902FE, 0xBA71F7D0, 0xBA71F4CC, 0xF72A0470)
    *** Ntfs.sys - Address f72A0470 base at F7269000, Datestamp 41107eea

    This machine is really upsetting me GRRRRR

  7. Rik

    Rik Banned Posts: 3,814

    And your girlfriend too!!!! Do you have any other ram you could try in it????
  8. scotty23

    scotty23 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Nope I don't have any more DDR ram to try... I'll try putting the RAM in a different slot or something.

    Oh yeah, SAFE MODE seems to work fine also :)
  9. Rik

    Rik Banned Posts: 3,814

    Boot into safe mode and run error checking on your hard drive!!!!
  10. scotty23

    scotty23 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    I ran 2 different APPS, one was from wester digital themselves and no problems at all on the HDD :'(
  11. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 17,244   +234

    Power Supply?
  12. sw123

    sw123 TS Rookie Posts: 595

    Could also be bad SATA controllers on the motherboard as well...try using a PCI SATA controller, see if it works differently.
  13. N3051M

    N3051M TS Evangelist Posts: 2,115

    I think its time for you to build this outside the box, on a non-conductive surface with the minimum setup. Look for any signs of damage eg popped capacitors, burns, smells etc.

    If you can get your ram tested (maybe use another pc to burn the memtest cd) then that would tell you if you got problems originating from there.. otherwise if you can get your hands on another stick of ram it could work..

    try using different data cables to/from the hdd and mobo?

    If safe mode works then its gotta be software related or driver related..
    -look for any ? in device manager
    -look in start>run eventvwr and see if you got any errors listed there
    -update the drivers especialy for your motherboard chipset
    -open c:\windows\minidump folder and post any new recent ones here
  14. Samstoned

    Samstoned TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,018

    PSU does not sound strong enough
    as stated get that system some fresh air
    remove all none needed hardware
    got more'n one stick of memory remove one
    make sure the video card has the power cable connected if it needs extra power
    check heatsink on both the cpu and video
    this sounds like a power issue or a over heated piece of hardware
    if it's something overheated it could be scrape now
    be careful how many times you let the machine reboot in given short period of time
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