By Phantasm66 ยท 13 replies
Feb 11, 2002
  1. Okay, in this post I am going to tell you how to install Ximian GNOME for linux.

    In my example I used Red Hat Linux 7.2 but everything should be fine for lots of other *IX operating systems. In fact, Ximian GNOME runs on the following:

    Debian Linux.
    Mandrake Linux.
    Solaris 8 for SPARCS (don't know about Intel...)
    SUSE Linux
    Yellow Dog Linux....
    And of course Red Hat Linux.

    ....and I am sure that it installed on FreeBSD as well, but don't quote me on that. I've seen it on the web site, but when I have just checked here it was gone.

    Now, in order to do this, you will need three things I should imagine:

    1)A working OS installed from the list above.
    2)A nice fast Internet Connection. You 56Kr's can try it, but I think you are pushing it a bit
    3)Lets say (being generous) 500 MB free disk space on your linux partition.

    With all of these three things in place, and connected to the net, open and terminal window and type this:

    su -

    (This will let you become root. the " - " bit makes it carry root's environment - such as PATH - as well, its good practice.)

    Now, if you have to go through a proxy server where you are (such as work) then you will have to tell the command prompt about that as well, so export is as an environment variable like this:

    export http_proxy=""

    where is your http proxy server, and 8080 is the port. you can get all of this info from your browser's network connection settings if its needed.

    you enter this command:

    lynx -source | sh

    This will use Lynx to download the install script and then pipe it into sh for execution.

    Isn't this stuff cool??

    This will then lead you to a series of simple questions, the most important of which is which mirror site to download the installer software from. Pick one that looks near to you.

    When the installer software has finished downloading it will execute. Again, this is just a series of simple questions. Tell it about an http proxy if needed, and also what mirror site and how much of XIMIAN GNOME you want to install. I would just take the whole thing.

    If you do take the whole thing, I think it was about a 250 MB download or so. So go and watch the TV or something, unless you manage to hit it lucky and get a great connection.

    When it has finished downloading and installing it will tell you. Restart your X session, or just reboot if you are not sure how to do that.

    A Doorman will ask for your username, e-mail, etc, when you start up. Again its easy.

    What can you do now??

    Well, XIMIAN is a lot cooler an interface in my opinion to a lot of those bundled with some Linux versions.

    But one of its strength is a program called Red Carpet (go to top pull down menu and click SYSTEM, choose "GET SOFTWARE").

    Red Carpet is a bit like a cross between Add Remove programs and but for Linux. You can add and remove programs as well as download and install new ones. Subscribe to all of the channels, and see what's there! Plenty of games, software, all kinds of stuff....

    It will keep you up to date with XIMIAN stuff but also Red Hat updates, and so forth, as well.

    Have a good look and have fun! Its a great GUI in my opinion...
  2. Phantasm66

    Phantasm66 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 5,734   +8

    The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am - Darth Vader.

    Here's a screenshot for ya'll!

  3. Vehementi

    Vehementi TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,704

    Umm...What exactly does it do? Just a new interface away from the TRASH:mad: icon driven interface Linux has resorted to?
  4. Phantasm66

    Phantasm66 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 5,734   +8

    At last we shall reveal ourselves to the Jedi, at last we shall have revenge!

    Well, out of all of the interfaces what I have looked at for Linux, this seems to be one of the best, if not the best.

    I realise that linux is moving away from the command prompt on many levels, but the command prompt is still central to a lot of things. Of course in linux we can do things on the command prompt we can't do in Windows (without some crazy 3rd party tool or something) but sometimes its just a pain having no good GUI. And, of course, sometimes its a pain having a weak commmand prompt (i.e. DOS, etc...)

    Ximian GNOME reminds me a lot of some of the macintosh interfaces that I have seem. Strong, clear, concise. Its those sort of qualities that might help move some more of the Windows heads over to the Linux side.

    I think that a lot of people fear Linux because they see all this UNIX stuff getting typed in, piped, grepped, emacsed, etc and don't realise what is going on, even for simple tasks.

    Also, I like Ximian's approach to the software channels, where its easy to download new stuff and to get fixes, and also to resolve dependancies by calling in .rpms and so forth from other servers. We have all had the RPM nightmare.

    All in all, I like it a lot better than KDE. There are strong arguments for KDE as well, but I think that Ximian GNOME wins in my humble opinion.
  5. Vehementi

    Vehementi TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,704

    Sounds useful...If I ever get Linux I'd install that :)
  6. Mictlantecuhtli

    Mictlantecuhtli TS Evangelist Posts: 4,345   +11


    Nah, I'm too old-fashioned for that. I had RH7.2 for about 24H but that Nautilus :dead: made me switch back to RH7.1. It seems like almost every OS is trying to make some kind of a hybrid-www-wizard-the-easiest-and-more-colors thing from where you're supposed to do everything. :dead:
  7. Phantasm66

    Phantasm66 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 5,734   +8

  8. Phantasm66

    Phantasm66 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 5,734   +8

    Red Carpet is like a cross between add/remove programs and

    Ximian GNOME itself is a whole GUI, based on Nautilus file manager.
  9. Elcarion

    Elcarion TechSpot Paladin Posts: 169

    I downloaded their GUI installer for Ximian Gnome. It asks you for proxy settings during the install. It appears to be just like the lynx install except you get a GUI that shows the current status of whats going on in the shell.
  10. Phantasm66

    Phantasm66 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 5,734   +8

    and your problem is what>>>>>>???

    go ahead and download....
  11. Ravenga

    Ravenga TS Rookie

    Need help as i have no idea

    ok i tried typing in the command

    lynx -source | sh

    and then it says

    bash: lynx command not found

    which i presume means that lynx is not installed

    So how do i install lynx? I am running a FRESH install of Red Hat 7.2 which i am booting from a disk cause i could not work out how to duel boot with my WinXP NTFS partition.
    Could someone help me with this and a whole stack of other probs i have?
    I am brand new to Linux and as the title says "I have no idea"
    Thanx guys
  12. Mictlantecuhtli

    Mictlantecuhtli TS Evangelist Posts: 4,345   +11

    Assuming your CD-drive is working, do the following:
    Put Red Hat CD2 into the drive.
    Clean install turns automounting on as default for CDs, so your CD-ROM directory should appear automatically.
    Open terminal window.
    rpm -iv /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS/lynx-2
    and hit "Tab". It should fill the rest automatically (in my RH7.2 CD2, there's lynx-2.8.4-17.i386.rpm)
    Hit enter.
    After a few seconds, lynx should be installed.
  13. Ravenga

    Ravenga TS Rookie

    ok thanx mate it works fine now
    i'll post bak here soon with my next prob after this is finished
    should not be too long downloading at over 400kbps
    god i love cable
  14. Mictlantecuhtli

    Mictlantecuhtli TS Evangelist Posts: 4,345   +11

    Re: Need help as i have no idea

    Such as..?
    If you'd read Installing Linux for the first time (Dual boot), you should get some ideas on dual-booting with XP.
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