Intel looks past Alder Lake, says faster processors on the horizon

bravesgood

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Well unless you get rid of your case fans your VRMs will be cooled just as well, arguably better because there isnt a monolithic block of aluminum blocking airflow to them.

Now otwer cooler provides good VRM cooling, the only coolers that do that are draft down style cooler like the stock ones. But those are very limited in how well they can cool.

Better to buy a decent mobo with good VRMs that dont put out as much heat + good on board/added VRM heatsinks.

Maybe if people had kept their older cases with side fans instead of jumping on the RGB window train they'd see cooling VRMs is really, REALLY easy.

In my PC, there isn't any 'case' fans left. Radiotors/AIOs in the front and top block most of the airflow to the motherboard area. VRM and RAM temps definitely suffered, so I just added a fan blowing at the cpu socket area.
 

Yenega

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I can't wait for Raptor Lake vs Zen 4 - True Next Gen comparisons (with matured Windows 11 + DDR5 (timings/clockspeed) and Hybrid Design issues have been corrected in software too)

I won't touch Alder Lake (maybe on company laptop, gets one free yearly anyway so it does not matter)

However Alder Lake seems pretty capable with OC and lets be honest, most people chasing performance won't care if their CPU is using 150, 200 or 250 watts
 

captaincranky

Posts: 18,527   +7,370
However Alder Lake seems pretty capable with OC and lets be honest, most people chasing performance won't care if their CPU is using 150, 200 or 250 watts
Here's the thing. If the published numbers are accurate, the, "boost clock", for the 12900 is 5.2 Ghz. so, for all intents and purposes, that basically is, "overclocked". But, it's not going to draw those numbers constantly, unless you fix that speed permanently.

Meantime, the gear heads are sitting around scratching their heads wondering, "can I get by with an 850 w PSU, or just go for the 1000 watt and be done with it . And hell, the video card is going to be drawing 400. (Assuming a 3090 or similar).

I expect after the market share numbers started coming in, Intel's engineers got read the riot act, and were told to "get moving or get out".

So, as I've quoted Japanese Admiral Yamamoto before, (after he attacked Pearl Harbor), "I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant"., which just might be the case with AMD's "poking the sleeping bear" with Ryzen. Plus, in a couple of years, Intel won't be having to kiss TSMC or Samsung's a**es for anything, while AMD still will be, for everything.
 
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Yenega

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Here's the thing. If the published numbers are accurate, the, "boost clock", for the 12900 is 5.2 Ghz. so, for all intents and purposes, that basically is, "overclocked". But, it's not going to draw those numbers, unless you fix that speed permanently.

Meantime, the gear heads are sitting around scratching their heads wondering, "can I get by with an 850 w PSU, or just go for the 1000 watt and be done with it . And hell, the video card is going to be drawing 400. (Assuming a 3090 or similar).

I expect after the market share numbers started coming in, Intel's engineers got read the riot act, and were told to "get moving or get out".

So, as I've quoted Japanese Admiral Yamamoto before, (after he attacked Pearl Harbor), "I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant"., which just might be the case with AMD's "poking the sleeping bear" with Ryzen. Plus, in a couple of years, Intel won't be having to kiss TSMC or Samsung's a**es for anything, while AMD still will be, for everything.
The chip has a 5.2 velocity boost clock and stays with-in watt range. As in 5.2 on 1-2 cores only. All-core boost is not 5.2.

The 5.2-5.3 results you see elsewhere, is 5.2-5.3 on all cores, and uses way more (obviously). However it also slams AMD RYZEN chips hard at this speed, so tons of people are going to run Alder Lake at 5.2-5.4 GHz for 24/7 usage, since alot of people can easily cool 250-300 watts.

Just like my Ryzen 5900X can pull 200+ watts with overclock, up from 125-140 watts on "stock"

Btw custom 6900XT's can spike to 600+ watts, so can some 3090s
 

Bobbydpue

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Amazing progress by Intel. I will definitely buy a 12th or 13th gen CPU from intel with an ATX motherboard, Liquid cooled AIO (for both the CPU and GPU ) nd DDR5.

Right now, I'm more focused on DDR5 than the CPU.
How can you base your CPU and motherboard buying decision on so little information? I don't care who's brand is on the box, I buy for performance and not the colour of the box.
 
Just more of the same old, same old Intel poopoo.

CPU's with 50 W TDP at stock and 1337 Watts TDP at peak performance/turbo, absolute worst quality TIM in the market so you must delid, and manufacturing defects as shown by Igor Wallosek.

As for what he says for the "future" that's just some nice words that cost nothing and make fanbois warm and fuzzy inside.
They already have the next gen ready to go and will be out next year raptor lake