Microsoft may tweak Windows 11 minimum requirements to include Intel 7th-gen and AMD 1st-gen...

bandit8623

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It's still arbitrary if you have or can have everything else in the requirements, but Microsoft still won't support the CPU. Still, if Windows 10 support gets extended, much like they did with XP, most people can weather it. It's not as much as disallowing upgrades to 11 as is sunsetting Windows 10 on seventh generation Intel CPUs and AMD 1st generation Ryzen when these CPUs aren't really all that old. 4 years is not really that old when you consider the costs, e-wastes, and the ending of Moore's Law. I digress. Push me to Linux, then. Probably the best case scenario in the long run anyhow.
6th and 7th are going to be added. there is already talk. its in beta they want testing done on known modern cpus. I can defend them because even 7th gen have some weak mobile 2 core cpus ( so they are testing and will add). honestly 4 cores should be the new minumum when buying a new pc.
 

Tantor

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TPM is built into AMD Ryzen 2+ processors. You don't need to add a module to your board. Your bios gives you the ability to enable/disable TPM at will.

Here's the question that nobody is asking: What happens if you TURN OFF TPM after installation? Will Win11 refuse to boot?


 

bandit8623

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TPM is built into AMD Ryzen 2+ processors. You don't need to add a module to your board. Your bios gives you the ability to enable/disable TPM at will.

Here's the question that nobody is asking: What happens if you TURN OFF TPM after installation? Will Win11 refuse to boot?
I can answer that. no.
currrently after upgrading to windows 11 the tpm and secure boot is wonky. 11 doesnt even know . it says you dont have a tpm or secureboot. it is a dev channel so I reported it
 

bandit8623

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I will say off the bat.. windows 11 is a huge improvement on the setting page. now I dont need to go to an old windows 7 setting to get stuff done LIKE I DID ON WINDOWS10. for audio controls and selecting devices its all on one page and can clearly see. even networking information is more easy to see. its a welcome change.
 

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There is literally no difference between 6th and 7th gen "security features" microsoft is dumping for the sake of forcing people to buy new licensed hardware bulls***!
 

zulu53

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MS are toying with us non business consumers. The next news (we will be glued to the internet to hear it first: giving MS the hype they want), will be to gen6, followed later to gen4/5 until we get to 2013 hardware. They know full well the number of boxes out there with each generation of say Intel (Intel are quite happy to tell them). They also know the asset depreciation and turnaround cycle for business, usually 5 years but modifiable depending on the cash flow of the business. After the GFC of 2008 the economy (business) took some time to come back before any business felt they could afford to buy new hardware, or, and this is the key: new software. Intel seem to think, and MS agree that it is a good time to predict a wholesale upgrade in business computers. They bought 3-4 years after the GFC and that was 7 years ago. But they are looking it from their perspective and not the users perspective. From the users perspective (business and gamers): Most all of my hardware is reliable and can be upgraded by minor tweaks (add SSD and m.2, wifi AX and more GB ram for example) since most software is communication speed limited NOT CPU speed limited. The only software pushing the limits of hardware is graphical software (for example 2D CAD to 3D CAD to VR CAD and Webpage software following the same trajectory). But in computer design this graphical computing is handled by the GPU not the CPU since (at this point) there is no way to get all of the transistors (digital computers) required onto a single piece of silicon (or any other material currently known to man/woman) - so 2 pieces: with the non Intel piece doing all the work. So; what's in it for business trying to get out of the Covid crisis by keeping their operating cost low: upgrade part of the computer instead of replace the CPU/Mobo/RAM speed. Their needs are faster communication between devices and faster graphical computations - replacing CPU/Mobo/Ram speed gives no bang for the buck. Business User perspective: In my business am I going to run 2 UI's, even though I will always have some "newer" computers. No, I am trying to keep support costs DOWN. So Windows 10 it is, I will never accept a new computer from a vendor (Dell,HP,Lenovo) unless they provide me with Windows 10.
 

bandit8623

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There is literally no difference between 6th and 7th gen "security features" microsoft is dumping for the sake of forcing people to buy new licensed hardware bulls***!
There actually are some big differences. 1 is hvec decoding and encoding hardware support on 7th gen.