Neil Young demands Spotify remove his music over Joe Rogan's vaccine 'disinformation'

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dangh

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Try to actually think instead of relying on "the news" and our lying government.

ALL of the statistics LIE. Our government uses "covid deaths" when ANYONE dies and has covid. It doesn't necessarily mean they died FROM covid.

Hospitalizations are also a LIE, it's grossly exaggerated because of the millions of low-IQ fools that run to the hospital at ANY sign of illness - right at the height to cold and flu season. Of course, a percentage of them will test positive and sent home - but not AFTER counting them as a "covid hospitalization". OUR GOVERNMENT LIES!

An old saying you've probably never heard because of your age:

FIGURES LIE AND LIARS FIGURE!
goverment lies, statistics lies, peer-reveiewed scientific publications lies, only anti-vax populism spread by *****s prevails... that's dumb. We have access to statistics and vaccination helps a lot.

Ontario hospital statistics:
ICU load:
fully vaccinated: 227
not fully vacinated: 233

Now, does the Hospital lying, or with Canada vaccination ratio 83.3%, 17% of population is responsible for half ICU patients?
I know, I know, Mathematics lies. And is rasist.
 
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Bl00dyMinded

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You're wasting your breath, squid greatly suffers from LDS and will defend the line against sanity no matter the cost as long as it props up the lies from the government and the left.
For real. Can't wait for November when the Red Wave comes. Everyone is getting sick of the direction we've been headed.
 

trparky

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It doesn't help prevent infection substantially with the Omicron variant... but it DOES help prevent the other variants... it also critically prevents symptoms, hospitalization, and death...

But again, if only a few people get it, it doesn't really matter... we need the vast majority of people to be inoculated - alas, many are too ignorant or stupid to do so...
Really? Then why when I talk to real people in real life, they tell me that they've gotten COVID after being not only vaccinated but boosted as well and their time with COVID was just as absolutely miserable as it was for anyone else?

And then let's cite the Cornell University situation where 75% of an entire student dorm building all came down with COVID even though they pretty much mandated the "vaccine" and 100% of the students had it.

As far as I'm concerned, this so-called "vaccine" does not work. I can understand a few breakthrough cases, but this is getting stupid already. We've had hundreds if not thousands of people getting COVID after getting this so-called "vaccine". Face it, it does not work and yet we keep throwing money at the pharmaceutical companies for this crap. At this point they can take that "vaccine" and shove it up where the sun doesn't shine.
 
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Squid Surprise

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goverment lies, statistics lies, peer-reveiewed scientific publications lies, only populism spread by *****s prevails...

Ontario hospital statistics:
ICU load:
fully vaccinated: 227
not fully vacinated: 233

Now, does the Hospital lying, or with Canada vaccination ratio 83.3%, 17% of population is responsible for half ICU patients?
I know, I know, Mathematics lies. And is rasist.
What is hilarious is that while this post proves MY point, it is liked by the people arguing with me... maybe try doing some research of your own instead of just assuming that everyone in authority is lying?

If the % of people in hospital is similar between vaccinated and unvaccinated, and over 80% of the population is vaccinated... this proves that being vaccinated protects!!!! if it didn't, then 80% of the people in hospital would be vaccinated... learn math please :)
 

BadThad

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goverment lies, statistics lies, peer-reveiewed scientific publications lies, only populism spread by *****s prevails...
Don't get me going on "scientific publications". I'm a scientist and the amount of published complete and utter BS would blow your mind. I guess it's a "necessary evil" because the pointy heads HAVE to publish or perish. Luckily, for us well seasoned and trained scientists, we can see right through it all.
 

Prosercunus

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I do truly believe that the vaccination helps with reduction in symptoms, and if you are over 60 and/or have health issues, I would probably say get the vaccination if you think it is prudent. Healthy people, however, I would say probably not and DEFINITELY NOT children. Specifically with the Omicron variant being the most common with the least severe symptoms of the strains. The unvaccinated in hospitals are far away more often in the older category that I advocated getting vaccinated, if they so choose and almost always have other health issues, obesity, diabetes, etc.
 

dangh

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Don't get me going on "scientific publications". I'm a scientist and the amount of published complete and utter BS would blow your mind. I guess it's a "necessary evil" because the pointy heads HAVE to publish or perish. Luckily, for us well seasoned and trained scientists, we can see right through it all.
Please do then a review of that publicatrion and prove them wrong. That is the idea of peer revieved publications and real scientists. Otherwise you only prove than you might be a science teacher or smth. you can easily prove me wrong: please link me to a peer review paper you were working on.
 

Squid Surprise

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I do truly believe that the vaccination helps with reduction in symptoms, and if you are over 60 and/or have health issues, I would probably say get the vaccination if you think it is prudent. Healthy people, however, I would say probably not and DEFINITELY NOT children. Specifically with the Omicron variant being the most common with the least severe symptoms of the strains. The unvaccinated in hospitals are far away more often in the older category that I advocated getting vaccinated, if they so choose and almost always have other health issues, obesity, diabetes, etc.
With the sheer volume of cases, the actual severity is largely irrelevant. Even if the death rate was .01 %, 1 million cases will kill 10,000.... and we are getting far more than a million cases (and the death rate is greater than 0.01%)... not to mention those who don't die, but require hospitalization, develop complications, etc...
 

CBTex

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I really don't get why people care so much about others' vaccination status. We know that the vaccine does not prevent infection or stop the spread of the virus to others for very long. The vaccine does reduce the risk of hospitalization and death. That is a big benefit, especially for those that may be a higher risk of complication. But someone else's vaccination status has almost zero effect on others, so why do people get so butt hurt about it?

Get vaccinated. Or don't. I don't care.
 

Nobina

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I don't care wether you're vaccinated or not but people that live in constant fear of it should just never leave their house and let the rest of the world live and work.

It's unreasonable to be so afraid of something that probably won't do jack **** to you. Maybe you're absorbing too much news.
 

Squid Surprise

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I really don't get why people care so much about others' vaccination status. We know that the vaccine does not prevent infection or stop the spread of the virus to others for very long. The vaccine does reduce the risk of hospitalization and death. That is a big benefit, especially for those that may be a higher risk of complication. But someone else's vaccination status has almost zero effect on others, so why do people get so butt hurt about it?

Get vaccinated. Or don't. I don't care.
We also know that people advocating "who cares" don't do any research - or follow those who do... maybe try reading the posts in this thread if you can't be bothered to research yourself? I literally replied to this exact point several posts ago.
 

Prosercunus

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With the sheer volume of cases, the actual severity is largely irrelevant. Even if the death rate was .01 %, 1 million cases will kill 10,000.... and we are getting far more than a million cases (and the death rate is greater than 0.01%)... not to mention those who don't die, but require hospitalization, develop complications, etc...

But that is exactly what I am saying. People with potential for severe side effects, SHOULD probably get the vaccination.
 

BadThad

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Please do then a review of that publicatrion and prove them wrong. That is the idea of peer revieved publications and real scientists. Otherwise you only prove than you might be a science teacher or smth. you can easily prove me wrong: please link me to a peer review paper you were working on.
Why should I have to do work for you? If you can pay me $300/hr, I'd gladly take the project on for you. I don't need to prove ANYTHING to you, it's not my job to educate the ignorant.
 

Prosercunus

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And that includes EVERYONE... no one knows for sure if they will get a serious reaction until it happens..
No, no it doesn't. There is clearly statistical differences in a healthy 30 year old compared to a 60 year old with health complications. I know the demographics currently occupying the hospitals and they aren't people that were otherwise previously healthy and young, by and large.
 

CBTex

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We also know that people advocating "who cares" don't do any research - or follow those who do... maybe try reading the posts in this thread if you can't be bothered to research yourself? I literally replied to this exact point several posts ago.

Your post advocated that people should get the vaccine because unvaccinated people are more likely to be hospitalized. I agree. You did not make any convincing argument as to why, I, as a vaccinated person who still got Covid, should care what other people do.
 

Squid Surprise

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Why should I have to do work for you? If you can pay me $300/hr, I'd gladly take the project on for you. I don't need to prove ANYTHING to you, it's not my job to educate the ignorant.
I think you failed to understand his point... the articles HAVE been proven... you have shown your ignorance by stating they are false... if you want to argue that you aren't ignorant - provide some proof!

By the way, saying "everything is a lie" isn't proof of anything other than that you might be insane...
 

Squid Surprise

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Your post advocated that people should get the vaccine because unvaccinated people are more likely to be hospitalized. I agree. You did not make any convincing argument as to why, I, as a vaccinated person who still got Covid, should care what other people do.
I did... but I will repeat it... because the vaccine still prevents transmission of variants other than Omicron. And that the more people who are protected (see: vaccinated), the less strained our hospitals will be - which might be useful if I ever need to use one.... not to mention the more cases WORLDWIDE, the more mutations could occur, perhaps leading to variants that our vaccines don't protect against....
 

Dunkerton

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No... it isn't... maybe actually read the CDC link I posted...

And NO vaccine provides 100% immunity against ANYTHING. Please do a little research before you spout your lies here.

The Covid vaccines provide amazing protection against Covid.. they also prevent infection from variants other than Omicron. The data shows they don't help much against Omicron infection - but still protect against the symptoms, hospitalizations and DEATH.

Medical technology also doesn't stand still. As we speak, Pfizer has just announced they are readying a vaccine that should work against Omicron - a 3rd, 4th or 5th shot (depending upon when it's ready) might make a huge difference down the road.
Lol imagine taking another shot from Pfraudzer. Do you remember when they said "95% effective at preventing symptomatic illness?" I do. Do you really think this will be any different? Be my guest and be the first in line bud, I'm good. I'm just not gonna get it. HAHAHA.
 

Squid Surprise

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I feel really bad for those who are still covid-obsessed. Please, it is not worth the toll on your mental health. The severity of this pandemic has been long over. Snap out of it and live your life, and let others live theirs.
I feel even worse for them... because they are RIGHT to be concerned about Covid... it is killing people all over the world...
Lol imagine taking another shot from Pfraudzer. Do you remember when they said "95% effective at preventing symptomatic illness?" I do. Do you really think this will be any different? Be my guest and be the first in line bud, I'm good. I'm just not gonna get it. HAHAHA.
And they were correct.... it still is the absolute best protection you can get from Covid... it drastically cuts down on hospitalizations and deaths...
 

Bl00dyMinded

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Here everyone I will do the simple math so everyone can be at ease with this covid vaccine nonsense, since someone here has nothing better to do but try to brainwash us all. These are the numbers that count.

World Pandemic as of 1/23/22
World 352.51 million cases – 5,616,227 deaths (1.59%)
US 71.93 million cases – 889,197 deaths (1.24%)

You tell me if these numbers are truly scary compared to worst things out there and things people actually die from daily. Thank you all that follow the fact and aren't controlled by the media or the far left like some on here are.

Have a great day!
 

Dunkerton

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I feel even worse for them... because they are RIGHT to be concerned about Covid... it is killing people all over the world...

And they were correct.... it still is the absolute best protection you can get from Covid... it drastically cuts down on hospitalizations and deaths...
And what about heart disease (#1 killer)? Obesity? Starvation in 3rd world countries? Cancer? Because all of those kill WAY more than covid. Yet you obsess over a cough? Especially after the BMJ finding that only a small % of deaths were directly *from* covid, but were logged that way only because they *had* a positive covid test despite not having respiratory symptoms. Seriously, do you just turn on your capitalistic mainstream media and think it's 100% honest and uncorrupt? Because if you do, you're in for a rude awakening. Covid. Is. OVER (since delta started actually).
 

trparky

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And they were correct.... it still is the absolute best protection you can get from Covid... it drastically cuts down on hospitalizations and deaths...
Yet people who I've talked to, as I mentioned before, have gotten just as sick with this crap even with this stupid "vaccine".

Note how this person said this...
Do you remember when they said "95% effective at preventing symptomatic illness?"
However, as we've seen, what Pfraudzer said is a flatout f**king lie. But keep shilling for these greedy f**ks that keep taking money for a "vaccine" that doesn't live up to their promises.
 
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