Older hot swap drive cage help please

[Samstoned]

I bought an older adaptic 6 drive cage
to replace my standard cage
bought 6 scsi drives 80 pin seagates
to replace the 60 pin ones
drives all work on boot I can unplug one then plug it back in and it still works
but I don't get a prompt that a device was unplugged
if I leave 1 out on boot and plug in hot the system does not see the device
I am new to hot swapping does it not work like usb
have old bios should there be a bios control for this I can't find it
Intel does not give a clue
I have no raid setup


reguards
SS

 

[Blakhart]

Hi
If you had 68 pins drives previously, did they run with 68 to 80 pin adapters?

 

[Liquidlen]

Sam...
I only have experience with my Tekram scsi controller card and a firmware update to get XP to obatain a feedback signal from items hooked up down the line. scsi control drivers will not come from intel . Adaptec,Tekram and Promise write their own firmware for controllers Check the web for your's
Also, scsi differs from USB in regards to "Termination" especially with the last item downline. You may need to check on whether your HDD's (80 pin) differ from the 68's in this regard.
Sorry, can't be of much more help.

 

[Samstoned]

the drive cage has chipset 3860Q adaptec
I know its old the drives are 160 and the speed I'm pulling is 80
it was cheap the whole setup was cheap
want to get my feet wet
the system does not show other controllers
2 scsi's the drive cage is not listed
I will try to see if firmware update for this chipset
just noticed a spare raid card I had is missing darn those tech guys :knock:
termination is fine
the firmware on board I have set both ways and I have both types of cables
not sure about the adaptec firmware bios control settings ,again tried the three diff ways but I could have had the
MB bios set wrong
wish better info on the net system is 4 years old Oh well

 

[Liquidlen]

My tekram has a complete Bios screen seperate from the Award bios . It flashes, and tests scsi connections just after the ide/ram tests.Then windows starts.
You've got to have a scsi controller somewhere!

 

[Samstoned]

got the raid card from techy
the adaptec screen come up and I could manage the devices found one setting not sure of enable/disable bios
is this the scsi adapter bios or is this the MB bios
the AMI scsi raid comes up starting the drives<<--- now this is new drive manager
seems the scsi cage uses a LSI chipset 53C80 for scsi 2 not ultra
have loaded that and found a fix for the error ,if this is an error
it's a toshibe smc3 scsi controller error
I don't think xp supports this older stuff
may go back to W2K or set this up as a linux box
at least now when unplugged I get a warning write failure and alarm goes off
but no auto start on plug in I have to start it in the raid program
maybe shoulda started with sata ,but I'm really a scsi type a guy

took 9 years for one of my scsi's to die

 

[Liquidlen]

"the adaptec screen come up and I could manage the devices found one setting not sure of enable/disable bios
is this the scsi adapter bios or is this the MB bios"

I know that there are other ways to control scsi controllers, ie some Macs ,and some sever Mb's etc have built-in software onboard.Perhaps this switch turns off the bios for this controller to allow external control???? I can't see this bios ( local card)shutting off the bios of another component especially the MB.
You really need to find some specific manuals for this card!!!!

"at least now when unplugged I get a warning write failure and alarm goes off
but no auto start on plug in I have to start it in the raid program""

This is why I answered your post; W2K & XP (I use both with my scsi card) do not see scsi natively like it was IDE . The scsi software has to send certain signals at the end of different events and Windows does not always read the signal's real intention. ie. the "write error "you got upon uplugging the device.Compare that to the same event under USB.
Your answer will come from a properly written scsi software program.

Just as an aside . Would a setting in your Mb bios for PCI to allow "legacy cards" or some variation on that help your situation?

Anyway I am going to try and see if I can pull any of my old troubleshooting records with my scsi bus. I will get a chance over the weekend. I know I read about this somewhere.