Palit tells customers to avoid second hand graphics card used for mining

Xex360

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Buying used is always risky, weirdly Palit didn't mention gaming even though it's more abusing for cards due to multiple heat cycles.
 

fps4ever

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They're saying it's a bad investment, which is true. It's up to you to choose if you think you're savvy enough to turn that into a bargain. Obviously you aren't, as these mining farms has already been seen selling of worn out cards in bulk to "refurbishers", who will make you pay way more than you should, for a "renewed" card or other scams.

First you need to specifically define what a bad investment and worn out card is for the average gamer? Then we can decide what is actually true or not. If you are talking today's scalping prices then we can say yeah, not a good investment. In normal times dumping items like thousands of used cpu's or graphics cards on ebay can get consumers some insanely good prices. You can still find those deals like recent Xeon cpu's there. I didn't read what Pallet said but if they claim bad investment at current scalper prices they might have a point, otherwise its a marketing plow pretending to look out for us good gamers.
 

duckofdeath

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First you need to specifically define what a bad investment and worn out card is for the average gamer? Then we can decide what is actually true or not. If you are talking today's scalping prices then we can say yeah, not a good investment. In normal times dumping items like thousands of used cpu's or graphics cards on ebay can get consumers some insanely good prices. You can still find those deals like recent Xeon cpu's there. I didn't read what Pallet said but if they claim bad investment at current scalper prices they might have a point, otherwise its a marketing plow pretending to look out for us good gamers.
They're not dumping them for consumers. They're only selling in bulk, so, for "refurbishers". That's where the sh t hits the fan for the consumer. Now you don't know what you're buying as it comes from a "certified" refurbish supplier.
This is a bad time to buy graphics cards. New, old or any other state. You will lose, big. New cards are massively overpriced, these mining cards are not worth the gamble.
Yes, the card manufacturers are part of this scam year. They knew who they were selling directly to last year.
 

fps4ever

Posts: 705   +938
They're not dumping them for consumers. They're only selling in bulk, so, for "refurbishers". That's where the sh t hits the fan for the consumer. Now you don't know what you're buying as it comes from a "certified" refurbish supplier.
This is a bad time to buy graphics cards. New, old or any other state. You will lose, big. New cards are massively overpriced, these mining cards are not worth the gamble.
Yes, the card manufacturers are part of this scam year. They knew who they were selling directly to last year.

Nobody is disputing its a bad time. I even stated that. You are always rolling the dice when to comes to buying second hand used. Whether its eBay, Amazon or second hand from forums. That has always been the case. Since crypto has been thrown into the mix consumers have to be even more diligent. Worth the gamble or cost is and has always been subjective. I think you and I agree on the circumstances but I don't agree with the premise of its better just to "land fill" them all if that is what you were driving at. Many may take a chance and find the cards perfectly acceptable for the life of the card. Its just a matter of whether each individual thinks its worth the cost. Prices will come down. That is just the natural cycle with mining hardware performance vs. payout.
 

Raytrace3D

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10% less is still 100% more for those of us rocking old GPUs... we can't get our hands on new so what else are we suppose to do?
 
Palit: Quick, how do we scare gamers because we manufactured too many cards?

Tell them the mining cards will be slow and crappy! Then they will keep our prices up.

What a genius!!!

Many YouTubers have done the experiment, the only real fear is if they were ran hot and the fans may have shorter life spans.
 

hwertz

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I've heard the 10% decrease too, and it does seem odd (how does a GPU "detect" that it's degraded even if it is?) Maybe it's just dry thermal paste, it drops speed a bit to maintain temperature? Whatever the cause, I don't think it's Palit fabricating it, I've seen this bit of info in other places with real numbers to back it up (the video in comments shows more like an 8% drop but still.)

That said... with new cards still going at like 150% full retail, I wouldn't mind at all paying under 66% the price for a card that has 90-92% the performance.
 

Danny101

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Me thinks Palit has a selfish reason for saying this, like buying up and reselling these cards! Waving off potential buyers so they can take advantage.