Pro Fortnite streamer now legally required to stream with his mom

mongeese

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“Okay, I’m back, I’m streaming on YouTube. My Twitch account was suspended due to me being underage. And yes, I am 12," Patrick said. "I only lied so I could fulfill my dream of being a streamer. It has been my dream for a long time, and I worked for a year and a half for it. I’m sorry that I lied.”

As part of YouTube’s rules, which are a result of federal guidelines, Patrick’s mother is now required to actively supervise him in all videos. It doesn’t appear to have tarnished his reputation, however, as he already has 900,000 subscribers.

In addition to Twitch, Epic Games has also taken action against Patrick. He’s been kicked off the leaderboards (a bit harsh, really) and banned from entering tournaments until he’s thirteen, as per Epic Games’ policy. Over the past year, he’s won $5,000 in prizes from the Winter Royale and Blackhead Cup tournaments.

It’s unclear if anything will happen to Faze, who knowingly lied about his age to enter him in tournaments. They do appear to keen to keep a hold of him, though. And regarding Patrick, while I’m not condoning the illegal behavior – I do admire his spunk.

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Catweazle

TS Booster
https://www.askaboutgames.com/parents-guide-to-fortnite-pegi-12/ 12+ allowed . he is allowed to drive car when he is 12. So whats the problem. 12 years old he make his own disission when he his that old. driving car when he is 13 and adult.
PEGI ratings have nothing to do with Twitch's or Youtube's age rules, and what country are you in where you can legally drive a car at 12 and you're considered an adult at 13? I've never heard of such a place.
 

ghostf1re

TS Guru
https://www.askaboutgames.com/parents-guide-to-fortnite-pegi-12/ 12+ allowed . he is allowed to drive car when he is 12. So whats the problem. 12 years old he make his own disission when he his that old. driving car when he is 13 and adult.
PEGI ratings have nothing to do with Twitch's or Youtube's age rules, and what country are you in where you can legally drive a car at 12 and you're considered an adult at 13? I've never heard of such a place.
Yeah I don't understand what country allows this, if it's even true.
 

cliffordcooley

TS Redneck
Gotta admit I'm sitting on a fence with this. I don't know which side I want to take. I personally don't see how they can do this if the parents are fine with allowing their kid to play. Especially if it doesn't get them in trouble with the law. Then there is: how can a game company be held responsible, while overlooking the parental responsibility? But the reason I am on a fence is the vulgarity, we as adults use as we think gaming online is our playground. So in a sense it is our fault kids can't play games that should be designed for them. After all most of them legally can't work until they are of age. Yet the game we play are the only games that compel them, while they can't legally work to pass their time.

While I think kids should be allowed to play games. They shouldn't be allowed to play games with our bad habits. It is our fault they are paying the price.
 

Khanonate

TS Booster
https://www.askaboutgames.com/parents-guide-to-fortnite-pegi-12/ 12+ allowed . he is allowed to drive car when he is 12. So whats the problem. 12 years old he make his own disission when he his that old. driving car when he is 13 and adult.
PEGI ratings have nothing to do with Twitch's or Youtube's age rules, and what country are you in where you can legally drive a car at 12 and you're considered an adult at 13? I've never heard of such a place.
I'm guessing Alpha Centauri.
 

treetops

TS Evangelist
https://www.askaboutgames.com/parents-guide-to-fortnite-pegi-12/ 12+ allowed . he is allowed to drive car when he is 12. So whats the problem. 12 years old he make his own disission when he his that old. driving car when he is 13 and adult.
PEGI ratings have nothing to do with Twitch's or Youtube's age rules, and what country are you in where you can legally drive a car at 12 and you're considered an adult at 13? I've never heard of such a place.
Yeah I don't understand what country allows this, if it's even true.
I know you can drive around on a farm at a very young age in the USA. The stream min age thing probably originated to protect children from godawful people.
 
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MaikuTech

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Good to see media sites, keeping some under age people in check.
Forcing the parents to do it correctly or just not use the service at all while being legally terminated.
 
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Uncle Al

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"I only lied so I could fulfill my dream of being a streamer. It has been my dream for a long time, and I worked for a year and a half for it. I’m sorry that I lied.”
Sorry but a simple apology doesn't cut it. Make him return all rewards, money, etc. he gained illegally and ban him until he is of legal age (18 in most states). A slap on the wrist dosen't teach him anything more than you can break the rules and get away with it with another lie that he's sorry. We'll never stop this kind of behavior until the penalties are severe enough to stop it and if it dosen't stop, increase the penalties until they do. It's as simple as Pavlov's dogs ......
 

wiyosaya

TS Evangelist
Gotta admit I'm sitting on a fence with this. I don't know which side I want to take. I personally don't see how they can do this if the parents are fine with allowing their kid to play. Especially if it doesn't get them in trouble with the law. Then there is: how can a game company be held responsible, while overlooking the parental responsibility? But the reason I am on a fence is the vulgarity, we as adults use as we think gaming online is our playground. So in a sense it is our fault kids can't play games that should be designed for them. After all most of them legally can't work until they are of age. Yet the game we play are the only games that compel them, while they can't legally work to pass their time.

While I think kids should be allowed to play games. They shouldn't be allowed to play games with our bad habits. It is our fault they are paying the price.
As I see it, there are plenty of other games that a kid, wanting or needing to pass time, can play other than computer games.
 
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lipe123

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"I only lied so I could fulfill my dream of being a streamer. It has been my dream for a long time, and I worked for a year and a half for it. I’m sorry that I lied.”
Sorry but a simple apology doesn't cut it. Make him return all rewards, money, etc. he gained illegally and ban him until he is of legal age (18 in most states). A slap on the wrist dosen't teach him anything more than you can break the rules and get away with it with another lie that he's sorry. We'll never stop this kind of behavior until the penalties are severe enough to stop it and if it dosen't stop, increase the penalties until they do. It's as simple as Pavlov's dogs ......
Illegally?
He earned those awards by being better than others, what a load of horse dung this whole thing is. His age had nothing to do with his skill.

As long as he has parental consent who the hell cares? It's not like fortnite is a violent graphic gory game.
We're perfectly fine with countries that have strong gymnastics and ballet teams start children at 6-9 years old in the sports and work them like slaves. They compete in massive international competitions by 12-14 but goodness some kid is not allowed to stream a game from his own home?
 

wiyosaya

TS Evangelist
"I only lied so I could fulfill my dream of being a streamer. It has been my dream for a long time, and I worked for a year and a half for it. I’m sorry that I lied.”
Sorry but a simple apology doesn't cut it. Make him return all rewards, money, etc. he gained illegally and ban him until he is of legal age (18 in most states). A slap on the wrist dosen't teach him anything more than you can break the rules and get away with it with another lie that he's sorry. We'll never stop this kind of behavior until the penalties are severe enough to stop it and if it dosen't stop, increase the penalties until they do. It's as simple as Pavlov's dogs ......
Illegally?
He earned those awards by being better than others, what a load of horse dung this whole thing is. His age had nothing to do with his skill.

As long as he has parental consent who the hell cares? It's not like fortnite is a violent graphic gory game.
We're perfectly fine with countries that have strong gymnastics and ballet teams start children at 6-9 years old in the sports and work them like slaves. They compete in massive international competitions by 12-14 but goodness some kid is not allowed to stream a game from his own home?
He lied. There needs to be consequences for lying.
 

Ravalo

TS Booster
“In addition to Twitch, Epic Games has also taken action against Patrick. He’s been kicked off the leaderboards (a bit harsh, really) and banned from entering tournaments until he’s thirteen”

So... fortnite is now pegi 13?
 
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Ravalo

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"I only lied so I could fulfill my dream of being a streamer. It has been my dream for a long time, and I worked for a year and a half for it. I’m sorry that I lied.”
Sorry but a simple apology doesn't cut it. Make him return all rewards, money, etc. he gained illegally and ban him until he is of legal age (18 in most states). A slap on the wrist dosen't teach him anything more than you can break the rules and get away with it with another lie that he's sorry. We'll never stop this kind of behavior until the penalties are severe enough to stop it and if it dosen't stop, increase the penalties until they do. It's as simple as Pavlov's dogs ......
Illegally?
He earned those awards by being better than others, what a load of horse dung this whole thing is. His age had nothing to do with his skill.

As long as he has parental consent who the hell cares? It's not like fortnite is a violent graphic gory game.
We're perfectly fine with countries that have strong gymnastics and ballet teams start children at 6-9 years old in the sports and work them like slaves. They compete in massive international competitions by 12-14 but goodness some kid is not allowed to stream a game from his own home?
He lied. There needs to be consequences for lying.
T(he)y be(lie)ve(d)
 

wiyosaya

TS Evangelist
T(he)y be(lie)ve(d)
How does that saying start? "Fool me once, shame on you"

And you would like to be proofed every time you sign up for something like this?

An advocate of enforcement measures rather than, gasp, honesty?
 

captaincranky

TechSpot Addict
PEGI ratings have nothing to do with Twitch's or Youtube's age rules, and what country are you in where you can legally drive a car at 12 and you're considered an adult at 13? I've never heard of such a place.
Mr. (?) @kmo911 isn't in any particular "country", he's actually in his "own little world". A world where coherence of both thought and English syntax and sentence structure are apparently forever banned.

However, I think age restrictions may be reduced in such places as family farms, where a vehicle, (the family tractor ?), may be operated by the young, but only on private property.. Not sure about that, and not up for the research though, sorry.

Arguably, the Hebrew traditions of Barmitzvah and Batmitzvah place male and female children as "adults" at the age of 13. I doubt those traditions have any bearing on how those "grownups" are dealt with in the secular world.

EDIT; There is no age requirement or driver's license necessary for driving Amish horse and buggy rigs on Pennsylvania roads.

Unfortunately, Amish children aren't allowed anywhere near video gaming devices. They're "the work of the devil". It's also interesting how many people in the secular world are starting to agree with that sentiment. :rolleyes:

Here's a PDF buggy driving manual by PennDOT:

http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/PubsForms/Publications/PUB 632.pdf
 
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Ravalo

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How does that saying start? "Fool me once, shame on you"

And you would like to be proofed every time you sign up for something like this?

An advocate of enforcement measures rather than, gasp, honesty?
I think you quoted the wrong comment, that was just a meme lol
 

lipe123

TS Evangelist
First, spellcheck is your friend, try it sometime.
Second, Was he cheating? Did he fake his performance in those games? No? So what you're saying is you want to be brutally harsh because he didn't state his correct age to a system that is flawed and biased to begin with?

Think that over for a moment...

Really let it sink in...

The best solution isn't harsh punishment for a minor offense that did no harm to anyone. That is short-sighted thinking for tyrants. The best solution is to fix the system so that those who have skill can participate as long as a responsible parent/guardian is involved.
Someone understands context and common sense.
+1 to you good sir for being able to put it in better words.
 
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MaikuTech

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"I only lied so I could fulfill my dream of being a streamer. It has been my dream for a long time, and I worked for a year and a half for it. I’m sorry that I lied.”
Sorry but a simple apology doesn't cut it. Make him return all rewards, money, etc. he gained illegally and ban him until he is of legal age (18 in most states). A slap on the wrist dosen't teach him anything more than you can break the rules and get away with it with another lie that he's sorry. We'll never stop this kind of behavior until the penalties are severe enough to stop it and if it dosen't stop, increase the penalties until they do. It's as simple as Pavlov's dogs ......
Funny if you or me where to lie about something an in online tournament and broke the rules specified before playing.
We would have our accounts perma-ban or disabled with possible legal actions depending on the issue.
 

lipe123

TS Evangelist
Funny if you or me where to lie about something an in online tournament and broke the rules specified before playing.
We would have our accounts perma-ban or disabled with possible legal actions depending on the issue.
Are you serious?! There is a huge difference in intent here. Intent to deceive for unfair gain or intent to get around a stupid rule that makes no sense!

Firstly, Fortnite has a rating of PEGI 12+ , this kid was 13.
Secondly, those ratings PG/ PEGI/bla bla are recommendations NOT A LAW OR RULE. They exist to allow parents to make informed choices for their kids.

It's one thing to enter a under 13 race as a 21 year old and destroy them but if the reverse happened, like here, where you have a 13 year old destroy the adults and then get penalized it's downright discrimination.
 

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