Radeon 9550 8XAGP...

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Redmanr

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I have Compaq Desk Pro EN(tower) w/Intel Pentium III processor, 865mhz,
512mb of ram. My operating system is WinXP ser.Pac2. I installed the game and it wouldn't play upon clicking start. I checked the prism3d log report and it read "software openGL detected, refusing to run the game in openGL. I was told that I need to upgrade my video card to play 18 Wheels of Steel: Petal to the Metal.

The requirments include

PentiumIII, 800mhz or faster
DirectX 8.1
32mb video card w/T&L and DirectX 8.1 compliant
DirectX compatible sound card
200mb free HD space
4X CD ROM Drive

Should the Radeon 9550 video card,
8X AGP, 256MB DDR be sufficent? And if so will this card cause game
Lag? And can you list advantages and disadvantages?
 
Your best option is something like a 9800 Pro but you need to make sure you have an AGP slot. Alot of those older computers with onboard video only have PCI slots.
 
vegasgmc said:
Your best option is something like a 9800 Pro but you need to make sure you have an AGP slot. Alot of those older computers with onboard video only have PCI slots.
So what type of video card would you suggest if I had a budget of $70? And my exsisting card I noticed is plugged into a brown, I think "PCI Slot".

If I where to drop from the 256mb to a 128mb what advantages would I gain and lose? I don't need a bunch of bells and whistles I don't plan on using, like I don't think I need to watch tv or do any type of editting. I plan on moving up to a computer with a pentium 4 or equivalent.
 
The way Video RAM is used is how much stuff can be on the screen at once ( graphics wise ) so if you have a 256mb your computer can have alot of graphics at once and have little lag but if you have something like 512mb then your computer can hold even more!

To tell if you have a PCI slot / AGP / PCI-e you should go to google.com and go to images and search PCI slot or something and look at what slot your computer has to see

a PCI-e has a little latchy thing on the bottom, AGP is sortof like PCI but alittle bigger in a way and PCI is just a normal slot
 
These are my current Video Card specs.



Inetl(R)82815 Graphics Controller Microsoft
Driver i81xnt5.sys

Hope this helps
 
Well you could always raise your budget about $150 and get a great videocard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814103018

a ATI X1650 AGP x8 ( assuming you have x8 ) is a great choice for gaming for cheap high-end videocards :D

If you want more info on the videocard check this out ( even though this test is PCI-e it shows how it can still be better then the 7600 for AGP )

https://www.techspot.com/review/31-radeon-x1650xt-vs-geforce-7600gt/

It's a techspot test with a ATI 1650XT vs nVidia 7600GT and it shows that the 1650 would kick the crap out of the 7600GT in games like F.E.A.R and other stuff like that but if you would like to play games like oblivion get a nVidia 7800+ for great performance! ;)

Hope I helped
 
This is my error log below:


******** : log created on : Sat Dec 09 12:58:15 2006
******** : engine v2.0 Aug 12 2004 14:27:41
12:58:15 : [sys] init ...
12:58:15 : [sys] running on WinXP version 5.1
12:58:16 : [sys] DirectX 8.1 or better detected
12:58:16 : [sys] using zlib version 1.2.1
12:58:16 : [cpu] detecting cpu...
12:58:17 : [cpu] GenuineIntel [Pentium III (Coppermine)] at ~851MHz.
12:58:17 : [cpu] Setting up code base to default C++ versions
12:58:17 : [cpu] cpu features utilized: fpu cmov mmx sse
12:58:17 : [sys] startup ...
12:58:17 : [mm] physical memory detected (522672K/293480K)
12:58:17 : [mm] virtual memory detected (1574352K/1741964K)
12:58:17 : [mm] trying to allocate memory pool (153600K)
12:58:18 : [ds8] Available device : Primary Sound Driver ()
12:58:18 : [ds8] Available device : C-Media Wave Device (cmaudio.sys)
12:58:18 : [game] 18 WoS Pedal to the Metal init ver.1.01 (rev. 6041)
12:58:18 : [game] home directory @ "C:/Documents and Settings/123456/My Documents/18 WoS Pedal to the Metal/"
12:58:18 : mount -o ro,p2 base.scs /
12:58:18 : [zipfs] base.scs [crc32_0xf3b1b8b0]
12:58:18 : mount -o ro,p1 data.scs /
12:58:19 : [zipfs] data.scs [crc32_0x7c96ebd]
12:58:19 : exec /config.cfg
12:58:19 : [cor] executing /config.cfg
12:58:19 : uset g_quality 0
12:58:19 : uset g_game_details 0
12:58:19 : uset g_view_dist 0.15
12:58:19 : uset r_device gl
12:58:19 : uset r_path 1
12:58:19 : uset r_mode 800x600x16x0
12:58:19 : uset r_fullscreen 1
12:58:19 : uset s_3d_emulated 0
12:58:19 : uset s_mix_rate 44100
12:58:19 : [snd] select device (ds8)
12:58:24 : [ds8] distance factor:1
12:58:24 : *** ERROR *** [gl] Software OpenGL detected, refusing to run the game in OpenGL.
12:58:24 : [gl] low driver: GDI Generic
12:58:24 : [gl] vendor: Microsoft Corporation
12:58:24 : [gl] version: 1.1.0
12:58:24 : [gl] GL extensions: GL_WIN_swap_hint GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_paletted_texture
12:58:24 : [gl] GL_max_texture_size: 1024
12:58:24 : *** ERROR *** [vid] There is no rendering device 'gl'



So am I right when I say the Radeon 9250, 9550 or equvilent should allow me to play " 18 Wheels of Steel Petal to the Metal ".

 
The 9550 should run it. Make sure you install the latest ATI graphics driver and it will support opengl and transform and lighting, things your integrated graphics lacks. I wouldn't get the 9250 because ATI no longer supports it with its latest graphics drivers.

Edit: You still need to establish that you have an available AGP slot, although a quick google search showed that it appears to have a 4X AGP slot. Don't worry if it is 4X or 8X. The 9550 will run in either. Most PCI slots are white. Your brown slot sounds like an AGP slot.
 
mailpup said:
The 9550 should run it. Make sure you install the latest ATI graphics driver and it will support opengl and transform and lighting, things your integrated graphics lacks. I wouldn't get the 9250 because ATI no longer supports it with its latest graphics drivers.

Edit: You still need to establish that you have an available AGP slot, although a quick google search showed that it appears to have a 4X AGP slot. Don't worry if it is 4X or 8X. The 9550 will run in either. Most PCI slots are white. Your brown slot sounds like an AGP slot.
So how can I establish whether I do have a avilable AGP slot:confused:
 
What if I already have a card in the AGP slot? I pulled the exsisting card out then installed the new card in it's place, turned on my CPU to a black screen what does this mean is wrong???
 
Redmanr said:
What if I already have a card in the AGP slot? I pulled the exsisting card out then installed the new card in it's place, turned on my CPU to a black screen what does this mean is wrong???

I don't understand, the Intel 82815 graphics controller is on the motherboard. I have a IBM motherboard with a 815 chipset and it has the integrated video with a 4x AGP slot. I used a Radeon 9200 in it and it works just fine.
 
They probably installed it wrong or something

turned on my CPU to a black screen

CPU - Central Processing Unit

CPU doesnt mean ComPUter ( someone else already said that but forgot to put a ™ on it :haha: )

If you have to turn on a CPU then something is wrong with your computer ;)
 
Mirob said:
I don't understand, the Intel 82815 graphics controller is on the motherboard. I have a IBM moterboard with a 815 chipset and it has the integrated video with a 4x AGP slot. I used a Radeon 9200 in it and it works just fine.
I'll call my computer guy in the morning because I don't want to cause my computer harm:suspiciou
 
Well, Did you delete the integrated video on the mobo or just disable it?

Because when you install a videocard you go to Device manager > Display > onboard video ( has a name like Intel 82815 graphics controller ) and disable it then let it turn off the computer. Put the videocard into the AGP slot > put the monitor plug on the back of the AGP videocard > Turn on computer and let it boot through all the stuff then when you go into windows Cancel the "New Hardware found" tap thing that pops up then after that it should work
 
TimeParadoX said:
Well, Did you delete the integrated video on the mobo or just disable it?

Because when you install a videocard you go to Device manager > Display > onboard video ( has a name like Intel 82815 graphics controller ) and disable it then let it turn off the computer. Put the videocard into the AGP slot > put the monitor plug on the back of the AGP videocard > Turn on computer and let it boot through all the stuff then when you go into windows Cancel the "New Hardware found" tap thing that pops up then after that it should work
I followed your instructions as listed... card worked, I just never received the "New Hardware Found" message. I opened the game to a error message:

******** : log created on : Sun Dec 10 11:18:55 2006
******** : engine v2.0 Aug 12 2004 14:27:41
11:18:55 : [sys] init ...
11:18:55 : [sys] running on WinXP version 5.1
11:18:55 : [sys] DirectX 8.1 or better detected
11:18:55 : [sys] using zlib version 1.2.1
11:18:55 : [cpu] detecting cpu...
11:18:56 : [cpu] GenuineIntel [Pentium III (Coppermine)] at ~852MHz.
11:18:56 : [cpu] Setting up code base to default C++ versions
11:18:56 : [cpu] cpu features utilized: fpu cmov mmx sse
11:18:56 : [sys] startup ...
11:18:56 : [mm] physical memory detected (523696K/245060K)
11:18:56 : [mm] virtual memory detected (1573328K/1774292K)
11:18:56 : [mm] trying to allocate memory pool (153600K)
11:18:56 : [ds8] Available device : Primary Sound Driver ()
11:18:56 : [ds8] Available device : C-Media Wave Device (cmaudio.sys)
11:18:56 : [game] 18 WoS Pedal to the Metal init ver.1.01 (rev. 6041)
11:18:56 : [game] home directory @ "C:/Documents and Settings/123456/My Documents/18 WoS Pedal to the Metal/"
11:18:56 : mount -o ro,p2 base.scs /
11:18:57 : [zipfs] base.scs [crc32_0xf3b1b8b0]
11:18:57 : mount -o ro,p1 data.scs /
11:18:57 : [zipfs] data.scs [crc32_0x7c96ebd]
11:18:57 : exec /config.cfg
11:18:57 : [cor] executing /config.cfg
11:18:57 : uset g_quality 0
11:18:57 : uset g_game_details 0
11:18:57 : uset g_view_dist 0.15
11:18:57 : uset r_device gl
11:18:57 : uset r_path 1
11:18:57 : uset r_mode 800x600x16x0
11:18:57 : uset r_fullscreen 1
11:18:57 : uset s_3d_emulated 0
11:18:57 : uset s_mix_rate 44100
11:18:57 : [snd] select device (ds8)
11:19:02 : [ds8] distance factor:1
11:19:02 : *** ERROR *** [gl] Software OpenGL detected, refusing to run the game in OpenGL.
11:19:02 : [gl] low driver: GDI Generic
11:19:02 : [gl] vendor: Microsoft Corporation
11:19:02 : [gl] version: 1.1.0
11:19:02 : [gl] GL extensions: GL_WIN_swap_hint GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_paletted_texture
11:19:02 : [gl] GL_max_texture_size: 1024
11:19:02 : *** ERROR *** [vid] There is no rendering device 'gl'
 
It's installed a running guys:giddy: So guess what? I D/L the game "18 Wheels of Steel Petal to the Metal just to get a stinkin' error message. The message reads:



The following DLL cannot be found or has a missing export:p3shared.DLL

Excuse me as I'm learning as I go...
 
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