Russia might start using China's Zhaoxin x86 chips because of sanctions

Tudor Cibean

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What just happened? A company has announced it will start selling motherboards with Chinese Zhaoxin KaiXian KX-6640MA chips preinstalled in Russia to fill the semiconductor void left by recent sanctions. These might get used in simple office PCs but won't be able to replace Western-designed CPUs in any workloads demanding high performance.

Ever since AMD, Intel, IBM, and other semiconductor companies stopped sales to Russia, the country has been having a hard time sourcing the chips needed to keep essential government systems operational.

This situation has forced them to start allowing bootleg tech imports and reusing components from household appliances. Russia is also planning to manufacture chips locally, but that could take years.

Electronics company Dannie has reportedly come up with a temporary solution, using Chinese-designed Zhaoxin KaiXian KX-6640MA system-on-chips on their MBX-Z60A motherboards.

The eight-core KX-6640MA has a frequency of up to 2.7 GHz, an integrated GPU, 16 PCIe 3.0 lanes, built-in USB 3.0 and SATA controllers, and it's built using TSMC's 16 nm process node. Its TDP is rated for just 25W as it was designed with both laptops and desktops in mind.

The MBX-Z60A motherboard also has relatively-modern I/O interfaces, featuring two DDR4 memory slots, two PCIe x16 slots, two M.2 slots for SSDs/Wi-Fi adapters, and four SATA ports. Back panel I/O connectors include USB ports, VGA, HDMI, DP, a GbE jack, audio connectors, and PS/2.

That said, the Zhaoxin processor is probably going to be seriously underpowered. Tom's Hardware tested the higher-end KX-U6780A in 2020 and found it to perform worse overall than the Intel Core i3-7100, a CPU that launched in 2017.

The main advantage of Zhaoxin's SoCs is that they feature the x86 instruction set architecture, making them compatible with many pre-existing operating systems and applications.

Unfortunately, the manufacturer didn't announce pricing for the board. If it's somewhat competitive, they could start being employed in PCs used by Russian government institutions, banks, and companies.

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Uncle Al

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LOL ..... I still have a few customers out there that are running intel 8088 chips / computers and they are still chugging along. Slowly but sure footed and needless to say, not a prime target of hackers ....
 

Tantor

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Especially since they effectively isolate themselves through their brutal policies.

Not quite. The US and the West have never had any problem cozying up to dictatorships.

But it's not Russia you should be worried about. The West is rapidly spiraling down the toilet. I don't say that to be petty or vindictive. It's simply a fact. The Western elites are freaking out because they see the inevitability of a Russian/Chinese coalition that will crush the Western hegemony. They're pulling out all the stops to prevent it from happening. Things could get really onerous really soon. That includes seriously brutal martial law in the West.
 

Rock Dirty

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Not quite. The US and the West have never had any problem cozying up to dictatorships.

But it's not Russia you should be worried about. The West is rapidly spiraling down the toilet. I don't say that to be petty or vindictive. It's simply a fact. The Western elites are freaking out because they see the inevitability of a Russian/Chinese coalition that will crush the Western hegemony. They're pulling out all the stops to prevent it from happening. Things could get really onerous really soon. That includes seriously brutal martial law in the West.


Still waiting on your space cadet decoder ring from the cereal box tops you sent in?
 

kiwigraeme

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Not quite. The US and the West have never had any problem cozying up to dictatorships.

But it's not Russia you should be worried about. The West is rapidly spiraling down the toilet. I don't say that to be petty or vindictive. It's simply a fact. The Western elites are freaking out because they see the inevitability of a Russian/Chinese coalition that will crush the Western hegemony. They're pulling out all the stops to prevent it from happening. Things could get really onerous really soon. That includes seriously brutal martial law in the West.


First point is true not just USA - but USA cozied up to Nazi Germany , Cuba +Central and South American dictatorships, Italy fascists , Iran Shah , Saudi Arabia etc

The rest is funny - Elites world wide side with elites - USA is their saviour by keeping American people as exploitable money machines . With private health care insurance - plus all the taxes federal, state, local, sales they paid the most taxes in the world for average health care and declining mortality rates - Many Americans can't afford to see a Doctor or call an ambulance unless on welfare and don't pay anyway . The rest of us are just annoyed we have to pay $5 at hospital carpark in Aust, NZD and Europe - though can get a free taxi if poor enough or right country , or ambulance pickup if in poor shape ( ambulances do lots of non-emergency work as well )

Russia is just natural resources and wheat - name one big manufactured product outside Arm sales or rocket launches - Russia should have a big tourist industry - given all the history ,11 time zones of geographical wonders etc .
Before the special ops. it's economy was between Italy and Australia - now who will invest + brain drain

Huge manufacturing base throughout Asia now China, Vietnam, Malaysia, India , Korea, Japan etc - it will get bigger Indonesia etc

You need consumers
The Elites are our natural enemies - not Singaporeans or Chinese . They want to have 99% of the wealth in 1% of the population - they want to buy the law , wreck the planet with their stupid excesses.

We want the middleclass to become the main class - so everyone can see a Doctor , get education, have a home ,eat quality food , have freedom security and education and some discretionary income

Now many Americans will tell you this is evil communism - that it is their fault being bankrupted by medical bills - because they should of known better and been born in a wealthy family.
With the famous exceptions always touted as the dream - most of the 1% are born or married into it.

There are millions of young people with destroyed bodies and heath problems - who have tried to get rich .

Stop propagating the BS - it's Russia vs USA or China vs NZ - it's the Elites vs the rest of us

They troll farmed this way before the Russians

Funny how the Senators in the USA always make much greater market returns than the market average - year after year after year - Pocket change for Elites - hell didn't cost them nothing but inside trading - they will never see the inside of a court - and if so Home Detention on a 1000 hectare property +pardon coming
 

lripplinger

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Ukraine is killing civilians too. Watch Patrick Lancaster on YouTube. He is an American, but gives another version of some things.

His videos are intense. People should pay more attention to people like him, since he has been living in Donetsk People's Republic the last 8 years, documenting the war.
 

captaincranky

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To whom it may concern:

My grandfather, (who hated children BTW), called an enema, a :"physic".The plural of which, (obviously), would be "physics".

I dimly remember only getting one when I was full of sh!t... ;)
 
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kiwigraeme

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Ukraine is killing civilians too. Watch Patrick Lancaster on YouTube. He is an American, but gives another version of some things.
He's a Kremlin stooge - able to travel freely into and out of Russia - wearing markings to say he's on the Russia side .
His reporting is one sided - he won't answer questions to all his discrepancies and lies in his videos - he believes every staged Russia sham .

His videos are for Russia and consumption of tankies in the West who support and love Putin .
Corruption index 2021 Russia 136 out of 180
Ukraine 122 out of 180 - not great - but if the want to join the E.U sometime - they will need to get it better .

A lot of gullible people in the West - they will never admit it - won't actually do any research into this guy - Geralt won't - QP won't they don't care - he says what Trumps Qnon propaganda has been BSing for years . Simply because Ukraine was not corrupt enough for Trump - you make BS about Biden and I won't stop military support - thankfully the other Republicans some his Banana republic charade . That's why the Tankies are calling Ukraine corrupt - because they are corrupt ones

Most of us vote knowing we get good with bad - no matter what side we support
 

Beerfloat

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Not quite. The US and the West have never had any problem cozying up to dictatorships.

But it's not Russia you should be worried about. The West is rapidly spiraling down the toilet. I don't say that to be petty or vindictive. It's simply a fact. The Western elites are freaking out because they see the inevitability of a Russian/Chinese coalition that will crush the Western hegemony. They're pulling out all the stops to prevent it from happening. Things could get really onerous really soon. That includes seriously brutal martial law in the West.

That'd be a shame for the smart Russians, though, or basically anyone with a viable skillset. Those people massively abandoned that sinkhole already. I mean, why would anyone who has other options want to live in a place with declining living standards and no personal freedom, if they can make a fortune out in the west?

Also, kudos for the concept of a 'Russian/Chinese coalition'. The Chinese have zero respect for Russia. They're done copying Soviet military hardware and just like to keep the place as it is - stagnant - in order to strip it for cheap resources.
 

emmzo

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That'd be a shame for the smart Russians, though, or basically anyone with a viable skillset. Those people massively abandoned that sinkhole already. I mean, why would anyone who has other options want to live in a place with declining living standards and no personal freedom, if they can make a fortune out in the west?

Also, kudos for the concept of a 'Russian/Chinese coalition'. The Chinese have zero respect for Russia. They're done copying Soviet military hardware and just like to keep the place as it is - stagnant - in order to strip it for cheap resources.
Exactly! So many hating the West fancy a China-Russia coalition. But Russia is in fact becoming a Chinese satellite, because they're so much weaker, economically and technologically. They need China, but China needs more the Western money, without it, their economy will collapse. China will use Russia in their own war with the West, but they only want a vasal, not a strong neighbor. And logically so, since they share a longer border with Russia than NATO. That's also why during the Cold War, while being both communist regimes, they never really got along. Now it's the perfect time for them to get a ton of resources cheaply and also to sell all bunch of crap nobody wants to isolated Russia. Soon enough, Putin will bow and kiss the "emperor" Xi Jinping ring, not exactly what he had imagined when he started the war.
 

Geralt

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He's a Kremlin stooge - able to travel freely into and out of Russia - wearing markings to say he's on the Russia side .
His reporting is one sided - he won't answer questions to all his discrepancies and lies in his videos - he believes every staged Russia sham .

His videos are for Russia and consumption of tankies in the West who support and love Putin .
Corruption index 2021 Russia 136 out of 180
Ukraine 122 out of 180 - not great - but if the want to join the E.U sometime - they will need to get it better .

A lot of gullible people in the West - they will never admit it - won't actually do any research into this guy - Geralt won't - QP won't they don't care - he says what Trumps Qnon propaganda has been BSing for years . Simply because Ukraine was not corrupt enough for Trump - you make BS about Biden and I won't stop military support - thankfully the other Republicans some his Banana republic charade . That's why the Tankies are calling Ukraine corrupt - because they are corrupt ones

Most of us vote knowing we get good with bad - no matter what side we support
I don't pay attention to what Patrick is saying but to what Ukrainians themselves are saying on his videos. Those people don't lie. At least in Donetsk and Mariupol he is showing something near the truth, not like the Western propaganda in which the only criminals are Russians. It's 50/50. He is only in Mariupol and Donetsk. He wasn't in, for example, Bucha. So, we'll have to wait for the end of the war to start to know the truth about all that, little by little. One thing is sure, Zelensky is not an angel and Putin is not a demon. It's 50/50.
 

mattferg

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Not quite. The US and the West have never had any problem cozying up to dictatorships.

But it's not Russia you should be worried about. The West is rapidly spiraling down the toilet. I don't say that to be petty or vindictive. It's simply a fact. The Western elites are freaking out because they see the inevitability of a Russian/Chinese coalition that will crush the Western hegemony. They're pulling out all the stops to prevent it from happening. Things could get really onerous really soon. That includes seriously brutal martial law in the West.

lol no one in the west is considering martial law. Meanwhile, might wanna look at China who’s basically got it atm…

Russia’s economy is a disaster right now, and China’s is rapidly heading for crisis due to a brain drain and a zero covid economic disaster. The west has little to worry about.