Russian officials investigate Netflix following complaint over LGBT content

wiyosaya

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And that's where the wonderful ignorance sets in.... there are just as many LGBT people in Russia as the rest of the world... but in Russia, they have to hide who they are and live in fear and misery...
Yes, this! The bible thumpers just don't seem to get it - even though the new testament espouses acceptance. The trouble is, as I see it, that the bible has been fabricated throughout the years by humans trying to protect their income.

As I see it, its a case of the blind leading the blind.
 

kiwigraeme

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I don't get it - Everyone knows many Russians are anti-homophobic . Men ride bears etc .
However Netflix has regional control - so shouldn't be much of an issue .
Gayness was in the west in the 60s . 70s - even when it or certain acts were illegal .
Certain people were openly accepted by the populations at large .
Mostly over the top Camp people
I was always surprised that Queen was not abused given their demographic of mainly hetrosexual young men .
I mean Bowie who knew - but he appealed to the "creatives" as well
Actually most of the camp TV shows I new were British - I just did a search on American ones - lots of shows had stories , side characters - not sure if there were any with main characters
Then again nudity was a big No No No in the USA - Miami Vice was a laugh - T&A pans - gets a new gf - horribly murdered - sits at end of quay looking sad- no worries new women next week - no guilt
 

captaincranky

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Those fine amounts are laughable.
I'm guessing that $13,000 could possibly be attached each offense, which could add up to a bunch of money in a big, big, hurry..

At least that's how the US laws work. If you commit fraud 100 times, you could face 100 counts of the crime. After that, it's up to the sentencing judge to decide whether the sentences run concurrently, or consecutively.
 
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captaincranky

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I don't get it - Everyone knows many Russians are anti-homophobic . Men ride bears etc .
I'm not sure, but I think that's a double negative. "Anti-homophobic"., (to me at least), says that they embrace homosexuality.

So, either "Russian men ride bears", because they want to, or to cover up the fact, that they're gay.

Here in the US, gay men have been known to ride gerbils, (Or so I've been told), but that's another matter entirely. .
 

kiwigraeme

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I'm not sure, but I think that's a double negative. "Anti-homophobic"., (to me at least), says that they embrace homosexuality.

So, either "Russian men ride bears", because they want to, or to cover up the fact, that they're gay.

Here in the US, gay men have been known to ride gerbils, (Or so I've been told), but that's another matter entirely. .
Good catch anti-homophile then
 

captaincranky

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How about a little music to liven this thread up a bit?

These are from early "Dire Straits" "Lez Boys" (With lyrics, pay attention))

Next up, "Money for Nothing" The story behind this song is that Mark Knopfler was in some sort of big box store, and heard delivery men deriding MTV videos, about how hard they thought the musicians' jobs were.

The original recording and video had the lines, "that little f****t's got his own jet airplane, that little f****t he's a millionaire.

Live in subsequent performances, the "other 'F' word".is changed to "monkey", for the sake of political correctness.. I still have an original pressing of the album, and I need to run it to see if I'm correct about this (I am correct about this, this was uploaded from the original CD)..

 
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Beerfloat

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There are a lot more harmful concepts being advocated on mass media than the fact that a certain percentage of boys are attracted to other boys, and some girls like girls.

This nonsense is just a distraction from uncomfortable real problems.
 

ScottSoapbox

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I'm guessing that $13,000 could possibly be attached each offense, which could add up to a bunch of money in a big, big, hurry..

At least that's how the US laws work. If you commit fraud 100 times, you could face 100 counts of the crime. After that, it's up to the sentencing judge to decide whether the sentences run concurrently, or consecutively.
Well as long as you guessing based on an assumption that all international law is the same... 🙄
 

captaincranky

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Well as long as you guessing based on an assumption that all international law is the same... 🙄
Is there any valid reason for this post? I pretty much stated I was guessing against US law practice.. So, was this just an excuse to put up an emoji, since we're not covering any new ground?

These is such a thing as an, "instant offense". In which case a time variable could be placed on when the next time the same "instant offense", could be charged..

For example, you get a parking ticket at 6969 wayward lane. It doesn't last you for the rest of your life. So, you can't carry the ticket around in your glove box, and think it excuses you for the next time you illegally park there.. And, if you double park in front of the Kremlin, I'm pretty sure they'll either tow your car away, or run over it with a tank. (But here again, this is speculation, so you won't feel the need to comment). :poop:

So, if we're treating these broadcasts as "instant offenses", more than likely, they they'll fine you again if you broadcast it again tomorrow. ("Broadcast", is the quaint way we boomers refer to "streaming").

So, what do you think the Russians will do, take the 13 grand and look the other way, fine Netflix again for subsequent offenses, and/or force more rigid controls on Netflix?

Here's a synopsis of Russian criminal law:
https://www.imolin.org/doc/amlid/Russian_Federation_Criminal_Code.pdf Dig in.

One thing I found very interesting is a mother can kill a newborn, and only pull a nickel. (Unless of course they tack on "enemy of the state" for kicks).
 
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Angga B

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"Agenda"

Wat?

America is backward in its own way, China and Russia are just homophobic about it.
They are banning the PROPAGANDA, not banning the people, not their existence, not their way of life, not their personal behavior.

So your phobic word do not make sense. Unless, you are also one of the propagandizer.
 

McMurdeR

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Could easily say the same about the West.

Boom. There it is. This lie gets trotted out alot lately.. that the West is just as bad.. No. You unequivocally couldn't say the same about the West! This is a classic feint that is often used as a poor attempt to justify morally dubious ideas.

The West is far better at getting this stuff right, and while being decades, and even generations ahead of Russia in relation to the recognition of LGBT, most people in the West admit we still have a long way to go. But we have the mechanisms to do it.

Generally speaking, in terms of the well-being and freedom of people, the Western democracies are light years ahead of anywhere else in the world. Anyone who believes the arguements and excuses that say otherwise are being conned.
 

eforce

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Boom. There it is. This lie gets trotted out alot lately.. that the West is just as bad.. No. You unequivocally couldn't say the same about the West! This is a classic feint that is often used as a poor attempt to justify morally dubious ideas.

The West is far better at getting this stuff right, and while being decades, and even generations ahead of Russia in relation to the recognition of LGBT, most people in the West admit we still have a long way to go. But we have the mechanisms to do it.

Generally speaking, in terms of the well-being and freedom of people, the Western democracies are light years ahead of anywhere else in the world. Anyone who believes the arguements and excuses that say otherwise are being conned.
The West is like the East in the sense you are free to obey, the idea you could hold alternative (to the mainstream) opinions is long gone.
 

Squid Surprise

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The West is like the East in the sense you are free to obey, the idea you could hold alternative (to the mainstream) opinions is long gone.
Really? Take a look around… there are people protesting - legally - in the west. You see plenty of dissenting opinions… you actually see the leaders change every few years… show me that in Russia and China…
 

ScottSoapbox

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Is there any valid reason for this post? I pretty much stated I was guessing against US law practice.. So, was this just an excuse to put up an emoji, since we're not covering any new ground?
I just find it funny the number of people that start pontificating with "I'm just guessing", "This isn't really my area [of expertise]", "I don't know much about this", etc.

Also, you didn't "pretty much state" you were guessing - you stated it.

You should take a moment and think about why you need to offer these disclaimers and hedge words. Is it a lack of knowledge or confidence or something else? Once you've determined the cause then you can evaluate if the typing of those words means you should just *stop* your comment there or continue on *without* the disclaimer.
 

eforce

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Really? Take a look around… there are people protesting - legally - in the west. You see plenty of dissenting opinions… you actually see the leaders change every few years… show me that in Russia and China…
Protest is allowed where and when it has little chance of actually changing things.
 

captaincranky

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I just find it funny the number of people that start pontificating with "I'm just guessing", "This isn't really my area [of expertise]", "I don't know much about this", etc.

Also, you didn't "pretty much state" you were guessing - you stated it.

You should take a moment and think about why you need to offer these disclaimers and hedge words. Is it a lack of knowledge or confidence or something else? Once you've determined the cause then you can evaluate if the typing of those words means you should just *stop* your comment there or continue on *without* the disclaimer.
"ScottSoapbox", well there's no hedging, guessing, or speculating, relative to what you're all about there now, is there?
How about if we declare November 28th a Techspot Holiday?

Let's call it, "ScottSoapbox's Semantics Sunday".

I'm guessing there about the date, since you could possibly be on the other side of the International Dateline. Is it all right with you if I guess, speculate, or offer conjecture as to what day today's date actually is? I won't get into trouble with you for that, will I? After all, on the Hebrew calendar today is 24 Kislev 5482

It's very difficult to offer an absolute prediction about what outcome a legal case might be, or what the following ramifications thereof might be.

For example, I thought this little snotbag would have gotten life in prison.
No such lucky guess on my part

Now FWIW, we're posting in a subforum named "Techspot News and Opinion". Be mindful of that, since on your part, I'm apparently not allowed to offer one.

I'll offer you this link about Russian law. So read it, then come back and tell me how you know exactly what the outcome of Russia v. Netflix, will positively be