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The 4790k is now about to become a problem for me, I have been gpu limited by using a gtx1080 at 4k so haven’t noticed the CPU, but as soon as I get a 3080 the 4790k is going to be holding the GPU back significantly in a few games I want to play like arma, dcs, msfs etc.Most games, from what I've seen, can run just fine on a Core i7.
For example: when I streamed Cyberpunk I was using a 5960x with a 2080Ti and 32GB DDR4 on a 8TB Samsung QVO.
The game was running flawlessly.
The 5960X is a workstation grade CPU from 2014.
The real test would be to see how well games work on the i7 4790, but I already know the 8700K was way beefier than the 5960 I was streaming from.
I believe most games are GPU intensive rather than CPU intensive lately - but even then, most of them run just fine on a Core i5 for 1080p and 1440p gaming.
The 4790k is now about to become a problem for me, I have been gpu limited by using a gtx1080 at 4k so haven’t noticed the CPU, but as soon as I get a 3080 the 4790k is going to be holding the GPU back significantly in a few games I want to play like arma, dcs, msfs etc.
The 5800x would be great for a long time, but I don’t want to buy into DDR4 platform now, so I’m planning to get a 12900k provided it has an upgrade path to the following intel generation (fingers crossed given they should both be socket 1700).
Given my history with Intel I’m a little worried a motherboard that supports Alder Lake won’t support Raptor Lake as an upgrade down the line, I’m not sure if using the same socket will guarantee support 12 months away.I am waiting till DDR5 before I buy a new platform.
I'm fine with my 2600x for gaming. In a pair of years I'll update to a newer ryzen (5600x maybe?) depending on the market. On the contrary 8700k users will have to buy directly a new pc. (cpu mb ram) and assamble it.
Now let's see:Why do you think it's a good thing that you can re-use an old motherboard and memory? SELLING the full bundle will net you way more money on the used market and you can then buy brand new stuff, which is always better.
Now let's see:
Option 1: Open case, take out CPU cooler, take out CPU, add new CPU, put cooler back, close case. Done.
Option 2: Open case, unplug Every wire, cut all straps holding wires on place (cable management), take out all screws holding motherboard on place, take out everything attached on motherboard including cooler, finally take motherboard out, take new motherboard and pray it's socket has no bent pins, ... , put everything back on case and plug every wire, make new cable management, close case. Done.
Good enough reason?
Buy good enough motherboard and you don't have to worry about those.Add this to Option 1; Deal with software issues, missing support and missing features since motherboard is dated, much bigger chance of motherboard dying after 4-5 years (MOSFETs dated), lacking VRM / power delivery because CPUs need more and more juice and ripple gets worse and worse too. Also firmware needs update; profiles and settings gone, so nah not just plug and play etc.
ONCE AGAIN, if you buy a decent motherboard, cpu and memory it will easily last 4-5 years without changing ANYTHING. So why buy a crappy CPU that only last 2-3 years before it needs upgrading? Pointless.. The CPU was crappy from the start if it don't last 4-5 years.
Changing motherboard, cpu and memory + proper cabling takes 30 minutes tops, are you new at this? I have built 1000s of PCs for over 25 years at this point.. It's piece of cake these days, takes no time.
Maybe you should re-think how you put systems together if this is a timeconsuming operation and we are talking about once every 3-4-5 years haha..
Yes you will, even the best motherboard have 3 years warrenty tops and I have seen tons of board dying after 5+ years even topend aka 500+ dollar boards, most have 1-2 years, why? BECAUSE THEY OFTEN DIE AFTER 4-5-6 years. If they lasted for 10 years with ease, they would give 5 years warrenty. THEY DON'T. LOGIC 101.Buy good enough motherboard and you don't have to worry about those.
There are points. CPU lasts 5 years Just 4 years ago 2017 Intel's fastest desktop CPU was i7-7700K. To get much better one two years later, you must have bought AM4 motherboard with Zen2 CPU. Total: Intel motherboard+7700K+AM4 motherboard+Zen2.
How about another route? Buy AM4 motherboard and cheapest Ryzen available. 2019 buy Zen2. Total: AM4 motherboard+cheap Ryzen+Zen2.
Needless to say second option was much cheaper and much easier.
That "time consuming" operation also includes risk that motherboard is broken. And that situation truly sucks. Second option only has risk that CPU is broken, much more rare.