Sony is reportedly cutting PS5 production, potentially worsening availability

QuantumPhysics

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If everyone who wanted a PS5 had one right now tonight, all it would expose is the lack of worthwhile exclusive games to play.
 

Rdmetz

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That's some Fast and Furious **** right there, only in real life, not a movie.

Least they aren't stealing small CRT TV's and DVD players.

If everyone who wanted a PS5 had one right now tonight, all it would expose is the lack of worthwhile exclusive games to play.

These consoles are the proof that the PC and console are ever more so filling a similar purpose. And just like how you don't need to sit around 7 years for an upgrade on pc these consoles are showing the benefits of upgrading your hardware to the benefit of your current and previous gaming experiences.

The idea of "console generations" is essentially coming to an end and yes new hardware will still likley come with a "showpiece" game or 2 the biggest benefits will be in your current collection running faster and looking better than it ever has before.

My prediction for consoles going back to the announcement of xbox one s / x and the all access program is the consoles (at least from Microsoft side) are going to effectively just see continuous upgrades every 3 or 4 years with no definition of previous and next generation and with the new making scheme of "series" this seems even more likley.

The all access program is another sign they plan for you to continuously upgrade your console every few years (looking more and more like cell phones and their service plans) and that only works if they have new hardware available for you to upgrade.
 
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eforce

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Two false arguments here:

1: We can be more or less rid of COVID in two months if everyone takes the hour of their free time and gets vaccinated. At that point COVID transmission rates should drop to levels where the public has enough confidence they won't be at risk of becoming infected. It will still hang around, but rates of serious cases/death should be in the hundreds per month, if not lower, rather than a thousand plus per day.

2: Economic data has shown, somewhat consistently, that early lockdowns and reducing the overall rate of COVID transmission led the economy to a more rapid recovery. Further proof of this can be seen even in today's job report: You have a glut of a million or so workers who report they are choosing not to work specifically due to worries over contracting COVID. The fear of COVID is keeping people at home, whether or not any mandated lockdowns are in place, and until you address that fear nothing is going to change. Your fallacy here is that if there are no lockdowns everything will remain normal, which is blatantly false.

Nevermind that between COVID related early retirements/death there's already about 1 million workers who will NEVER be returning to the labor force, which is obviously going to have an economic impact.
1. People with the vaccine still catch and spread covid.

2. Sweden seems pretty normal.
 

Wrinkle

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Without keyboard and mouse I am lost. My daughter had a PS2 and I couldn't do squat on it. These gizmos would be great if all games supported keyboard and mouse. I'm not stuck on a PC cause I am a snob. I am stuck on PC cause I can't do the controller

The only way around this is to start playing with a controller anyway. A few hours in it will probably start to click as you develop some muscle memory and a feeling for the sticks. Keep in mind that games allow you to alter stick sensitivity, lowering this can make a world of difference in 1st or 2nd person shooters. You'll probably be never as precise as with m+k but the games are optimised for this.

I've gone through the same process years ago. The first few days suck but ultimately its very much worth it I think.
 

Reehahs

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Vertically integrating supply chains would prevent many of these companies from experiencing component shortages.
 

gamerk2

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1. People with the vaccine still catch and spread covid.

2. Sweden seems pretty normal.
1: People with the vaccine catch/spread COVID at very low rates, even lower among people who also have the vaccine. As I specifically noted you'll still have low rates of transmission, but few serious cases and even fewer deaths. That, and only that, is what is going to cause people to pick up their old habits again.

2: Sweden's "stay open and deal with it" policy is considered a failure; they suffered both more deaths and more economic losses then Finland/Norway, both of which locked down early.
 

eforce

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1: People with the vaccine catch/spread COVID at very low rates, even lower among people who also have the vaccine. As I specifically noted you'll still have low rates of transmission, but few serious cases and even fewer deaths. That, and only that, is what is going to cause people to pick up their old habits again.

2: Sweden's "stay open and deal with it" policy is considered a failure; they suffered both more deaths and more economic losses then Finland/Norway, both of which locked down early.
1. A reduced spread rate of 50% for ~12 weeks and then back to normal with immunity wearing off after 6-12 months.

2. Finland/Norway have simply delayed the inevitable.
 

gamerk2

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1. A reduced spread rate of 50% for ~12 weeks and then back to normal with immunity wearing off after 6-12 months.
False; while immunity does wane, a number of studies showed the Moderna/Pfizer vaccines remain around 70% effective across all age groups after about a year. [Note, I'm referring specifically to the Delta variant; the existing vaccines are more effective against other variants]

Now, if everyone got the vaccine, you'd see a significant decline in the rate of spread, which in turn would make COVID larelgy die out. You'd still see low rates of spread, but wouldn't see thousands of deaths a day.
2. Finland/Norway have simply delayed the inevitable.
Let me translate that for you:

"This datapoint refutes my argument so I'll just claim that time will show me correct even if the data currently shows otherwise."

Coincidentally, Finland/Norway opened up around the same time Sweden finally decided to lock down.

But hey, feel free to believe that having three quarters of a million dead permanently removed from the economy is going to somehow have less of an economic impact then shutting down for a month would have.
 

eforce

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False; while immunity does wane, a number of studies showed the Moderna/Pfizer vaccines remain around 70% effective across all age groups after about a year. [Note, I'm referring specifically to the Delta variant; the existing vaccines are more effective against other variants]

Now, if everyone got the vaccine, you'd see a significant decline in the rate of spread, which in turn would make COVID larelgy die out. You'd still see low rates of spread, but wouldn't see thousands of deaths a day.

Let me translate that for you:

"This datapoint refutes my argument so I'll just claim that time will show me correct even if the data currently shows otherwise."

Coincidentally, Finland/Norway opened up around the same time Sweden finally decided to lock down.

But hey, feel free to believe that having three quarters of a million dead permanently removed from the economy is going to somehow have less of an economic impact then shutting down for a month would have.
I was referring to all variants which is what matters over the long term.

The death count is difficult to take seriously when any governments diluted it with "died with covid" cases.
 

gamerk2

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I was referring to all variants which is what matters over the long term.
Which as I noted, you lowballed in any case.
The death count is difficult to take seriously when any governments diluted it with "died with covid" cases.
Again, false. If anything, COVID deaths are being significantly undercounted.

You should probably stop being told the news and learn it for yourself. Your just talking like a generic RPG NPC right now.
 

eforce

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Which as I noted, you lowballed in any case.

Again, false. If anything, COVID deaths are being significantly undercounted.

You should probably stop being told the news and learn it for yourself. Your just talking like a generic RPG NPC right now.
The only place they have been undercounted is China.
 

gamerk2

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The only place they have been undercounted is China.
Again, false. A number of studies have shown that poor communities in the US have significantly underreported cases of COVID infection/death, due in large part to people not seeking care and thus not being diagnosed.

Nice attempt to try and shift attention away from the US's own failings toward China, but that's not gonna work.
 

Yenega

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That's right you show them buy not getting in line with the millions that don't have a PS5 but want one.

As a PC gamer I'm not really in a rush before a platform have good exclusives.

Buying a new console gen on release is rarely a good idea. Tons of issues and lack of games.

Both Sony and MS needs system sellers badly, more than 1 year after release.
 

EdmondRC

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Everyday things are getting a little worse. It does not really feel right that one day we are going to wake up and things will just reverse course. We may already be living in borrowed time before the bottom drops out. Especially when you consider inflation and the massive amounts of money the government has thrown out to stave off a collapse, but now that money is just feeding the problem. Tomorrow, only God knows.