System bottlenecks

By Turkish81 ยท 21 replies
Jan 26, 2006
  1. I've had my system for a while but recently I've noticed that it doesnt perform as it should I'd go for an upgrade, but first I want to put my machine through her paces so see exactly what it is that i should upgrade.

    Does anyone know of any good software programs that can test a setup and indicated bottlenecks or anything out of the ordinary (well mostly from a gaming perspective) she does everyhting else fine but recent games seem to push it a bit.
  2. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 24,177   +19

    Hello and welcome to Techspot.

    According to my crystal ball. Your graphics card, and, or ram are probably your bottleneck lol.

    If you`d like to give us your system specs. we will be better informed to advise you.

    Regards Howard :wave: :wave:
  3. swker98

    swker98 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,077

    thats funny howards, my crystil ball says that his cpu is the bottleneck :p :giddy:
  4. iss

    iss TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,994

    oh how nitpicky can you get ..wanting to know the system specs before giving an opinon on it......... :D hehehehe
  5. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 24,177   +19

    I may be nit-picking, but my powers of ESP aren`t working too well today :p

    Regards Howard :)
  6. iss

    iss TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,994

    ehh.....Wouldnt that be ESFPP? (Extra Sensory Forum Post Perception) well you better get that fixed howard. after all I would say that at least 50% of new poster are expecting that ability from the veteran posters here, which is why they dont bother givng system info when they ask what is wrong with their machine......LOL
  7. Turkish81

    Turkish81 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Thanks for the welcome

    Well all I wanted was some programs that would tell me what to bottleneck was BUT if you guys are gonna go out of your way to look over my specs how can I complain about that.

    Heres my system info:

    CPU: Intel Pentium 4 3Ghz

    Video card: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900 Ultra

    Memory: 3 sticks of 512 MB

    Motherboard: Asus P4C800

    HDDs:80GB and 160GB both IDE ATA 5400rpm

    OS: Windows XP + SP2

    So thats the basics, I'm not really looking to REVOLUTIONIZE my system just something thats gonna keep my gaming looking/running good at the lowest cost. I was thinking of totaly upgrading but I'm gonna wait for Windows Vista and DirectX 10 to come along bringing with it all the new video cards meant for the upgrade along with bigger better dual core CPUs coming onto the market and the new optical medias coming along too.

    Anyway back to topic at hand, so I'm thinking just getting an upgraded Vid card but would any non PCI express cards cut it? Cause that means new Motherboard and likely new CPU and BLABLABLABLABLAHHH so I'm just looking for cheap fix that'll last until around Q4 2006

    Well sorry for the long post and thanks in advance to any help/advice given
  8. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 2,406

    That board is still very usable and upgradable. Don't worry that you don't have a PCIe video slot, the AGP slots still have some nice options for graphics cards. The AGP slot is not totally dead yet, just on the way there.

    But first, you are running 3 sticks of ram. You may notice a performance increase by actually taking out one of your sticks of ram, and dropping to 1Gb instead of 1.5Gb. The reason being, your board supports dual channel memory, but ONLY if you are using two sticks. Three drops you down to single channel, and a huge performance loss. Give it a shot and see if you notice the difference.

    But to really increase your gaming performance, I'd say that graphics card needs to be updated a bit. A 6800Gs would be a nice pick at around $200

    But even a 6600GT at $130 would give you a solid performance jump:
  9. iss

    iss TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,994

    Yep that is an excelent board, I recently built three systems using that board and have been quite impressed with it.

    Don allready zeroed in on the memory issue and Iw ould say he is right for best performance you need matched pairs of memory to run dual channel. what kind of memory is it you are running? Brand, ei;

    you sure about that? thiose should be 7200 rpm.

    and I would agreee with Don about the graphics. either a 6800 series or something like a Radeon 850XT would give you a performance boost.

    if you are wanting to benchmark there are are a few freeware apps that have some benchmarking capabilities as well as detailed system info.

    PC Wizard 2006
  10. Turkish81

    Turkish81 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    LOL are you serious????? and i bought that extra stick to boost performance and your saying i was doing the reverse LOL

    should I spring for the exta stick to fill all the slots to have 2GB with dual channel or is 1GB with dual channel going more than enough with a newer video card?
  11. Turkish81

    Turkish81 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    I can live with longer load times as long as I can keep the costs down on the upgrading (I'll just go to town when i go for the new machine later on)
  12. Turkish81

    Turkish81 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Well I've gone over the Video cards and I've got it down to these 3

    Bare with the pricing (I'm in canada)

    Well its a vanilla 6600 with 256 MB and a good price but the next one ...

    Is a 6600GT an ok price too BUT its 128 MB hmmmm will that be enough?

    Then theres this beast 6800 GS at a cost that almost twice that of the other 2 but is this going to be so much of a performance boost that the price is worth it?

    sorry for all the questions thanks so far
  13. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 2,406

    I'd go for the 128mb 6600GT over the 256mb 6600.

    And the 6800GS is an amazing mid-range card. Comparing it to the 6600GT would be the difference between running a game at low settings or mid-high settings to get good frame rates.

    For a tight budget the 6600GT is a great card. If you have the extra cash, bump yourself up to the 6800. It'll smoke through just about any game at mid-high level settings.
  14. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 24,177   +19

    The guys have got it right.

    Seems like my crystal ball was right after all lol.

    Regards Howard :) :)
  15. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 2,406

    1Gb is enough for most games. But if you have the cash, why not go to 2Gb?

    I have only 1Gb on my system, and have no complaints at all. I'd say with 1Gb of ram and at least a 6600GT, you'll have a system that can run any game out now (sometimes with the settings turned down a bit) with decent frame rates.

    If you go to the 6800 line..... zwishhhhhh!!! :hotbounce
  16. Turkish81

    Turkish81 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    hmmmmmm sounds pretty good to me, I think I'll go with the 6800 GS and stay at 1GB memory hopefully that'll keep me up until end of year comes around.
  17. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 2,406

    One thing you are going to want to confirm before you do this upgrade is whether or not your PSU will be able to handle it.

    What make/model is your PSU and how many watts is it rated at?
  18. Turkish81

    Turkish81 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Well The power supply is an Enermax Model: EG365P-VE(24P) and the total output is 350W

    thanks alot
  19. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 2,406

  20. Turkish81

    Turkish81 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Well even after putting at at 100% and adding extra stuff just incase i still get away with 305 Watts so things should be good.

    Thanks alot for the help, Guess I know where to go for Tech help if I ever need it again.
  21. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 2,406

  22. Turkish81

    Turkish81 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    SWEEEEET saved me some money, your too good to me, well whenever you come by Toronto give me a call and I'll buy you a beer.
    :hotbounce :hotbounce :hotbounce :hotbounce :hotbounce
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