Upgrading my pavilion

[frus]

Hi
i got a pavilion w5220la with a p4 516 processor (2,93ghz)
i want to upgrade the processor, so i found this on hp site:

this is the motherboard:
Motherboard specifications table
Motherboard description Motherboard manufacturer's name: MSI MS-7174
HP/Compaq name: Graphite-GL8E

CPU/Processor Socket: 775
Supports the following processors
Pentium 4 600 series
Pentium 4 with HT
Celeron D

Front-side bus (FSB) 800 MHz (Pentiums)
533 MHz (Celeron D)

Chipset Northbridge: i915GV
Southbridge: ICH6


Searching on intel site, i found some p4 processors but i dont know wich one the best of them ,

-Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor Extreme Edition Supporting Hyper-Threading Technology
(Processor, Pentium 4 Extreme Edition 3.4GHz, 512KB L2 Cache, 2MB L3 Cache, 800 MHz Front Side Bus) this is the best for my mobo i think beacause is the only one with 800 mhz fsb , there are better processors but with 1066 mhz fsb, i think they woulndt fit right?

-Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor Supporting Hyper-Threading Technology †
(p4 670 or 672 running at 3,8 ghz, 2mb L2 cache and 800 mhz fsb this is the faster here.)

First i want to know if my mobo will support the p4 extreme edition 3,4 ghz, second if the p4 extreme edition is way better than the p4 672 3,8ghz.

Thanks for the help

 

[TimeParadoX]

-Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor Supporting Hyper-Threading Technology †
(p4 670 or 672 running at 3,8 ghz, 2mb L2 cache and 800 mhz fsb this is the faster here.)

Is probably your best choice, but if I was you I would actualy build a new computer instead of upgrading a old one, Saves you from upgrading all the parts ( which could add up to alot of money because the Manufacture's website sometimes doubles or triples the price of the part so you pay more )

If you go on Newegg you could probably find the same part for cheaper then the manufacture's website

Hope I helped

 

[frus]

thanks
i know what u mean i search for prices and the p4 670 price is 700 bucks and 1100 bucks for the 3,4 extreme edition (thats why i was asking , for the price the extreme edition seems to be better but i dont know if this will fit on my mobo)
With that amount of money i can buy a new and better computer, i know what u mean, any way i have not the money for a new computer right now, so i just was searching for a probable upgrade and it seems to be a little pricey.
Maybe now is just a theorical question , i want to know wich one is best

 

[TimeParadoX]

Well the one I put is probably the better choice because it has a better clock speed ( as I saw on Newegg, it might be diffrent on the manufacture's website )
and is abit cheaper.

If you want to get the best performance out of gaming for cheap you could build a computer, If your budget is in the $700-800 range you could build this really good AM2 system that could run any game today:

Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813127013

Processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103029

RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145566

Hard drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148140

Videocard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130056

DVD drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827152076

Powersupply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817341002

Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811144151

Floppy drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16821103116

Total: $876 with shipping

You could play Oblivion / F.E.A.R & battlefield 2142 ( if you upgrade the RAM to 2gigs is what I did but 1-1.5gig would be just as good ) with High with little to no Lag

Hope I helped

 

[tifc8lraz]

I just bought the videocard that you suggested Timeparadox...I can't wait to try it out now (Damn the current date...I need it to be Christmas!), although I have to get a new PSU (Oh joy!).

Wouldn't a Core 2 Duo work in that system? It is Socket 775 as well. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[TimeParadoX]

The system I linked?

No the mobo is AM2, I wish it was 775 :haha:
( It's actualy my LAN gaming system )

Also the videocard I suggest is quite good, I use it in SLI form with my main gaming system and I get really crazy FPS in almost all games

 

[Grafficks]

Don't look for products from the Intel website, look for them (and get a lot more info) from e-tailers such as newegg.

I think cfitzarl was asking about frus's system when he asked if a Core 2 Duo would work in it. The answer's no, because the motherboard chipset is the 915 series, which does not even support a Pentium D, let along a Core 2 Duo.

That being said, frus is unfortunately left with Pentium 4 Prescott core CPUs as choices for upgrades (prescott is known to be a mini-nuclear reactor!!). The heat of a prescott also gets worse as the clock speed increases, so you can see the problem..

Getting a CPU that is not a Core 2 Duo is not that wise around this time. It would be very expensive anyway because that processor listed has a stock clock speed of 3.8GHz (which I would presume is expensive..).

TimeParadoX, you sure went through a lot of trouble putting together links to a powerful AM2 build even when he said "no" to a new system, lol

And about that eVGA GeForce 7900GS KO video card you're talking about, it's definately a superb choice. In fact, I considered purchasing it two weeks ago when I upgraded my graphics card. I had two choices, it was either the king of mainstream gaming, the 7600GT, or that 7900GS-KO. At the time, there was a whopping $100 difference between the two, so I got the 7600.

 

[TimeParadoX]

TimeParadoX, you sure went through a lot of trouble putting together links to a powerful AM2 build even when he said "no" to a new system, lol

Lol yeah, I actualy put the links up so much time that I have about 20 .txt files of really powerful computer builds in all price ranges (from $500-1000 or $1000-2000 ) so I just copy and paste them

Also for Fur's system like Graffick said that it's not a Duo Core compatible system because it's a Socket 915 and you need a socket 775 for Intel Duo Core

 

[frus]

thanks for the answers, well i got it very clear now
ijust got a final question, are the p4 extreme edition 3,4ghz 800 fsb compatible with my system and second they are better than the 3,8ghz?
the only thing i know is that the extreme edition or whatever at 3,4 ghz got L2 cache 512kbs and L3 cache 2mb and p4 3,8 only L2 cache at 2mb that makes it faster even if his clock is lower?
thanks

i got another question searching on ebay i found this about the p4 extreme edition
Processor
Bus Speed - 800 MHz
Cache Level 1 Size - 8 KB
Cache Level 2 Size (for systems with L3 only) - 512 KB
Clock Speed - 3.4 GHz
Features - Hyper-Threading Technology, Streaming SIMD extensions 2
Installed Qty - 1
Manufacturer - Intel
Packaging Type - FC-LGA4
Processor Socket - LGA775 Socket
Type - Pentium 4 Extreme Edition

Notice this "Cache Level 2 Size (for systems with L3 only) - 512 KB"
so, how do i know if my system got L3 cache ??? maybe it will work but losing some cache or im wrong??

thanks

 

[Tedster]

run CPU-z. It will tell you all the specs of your CPU and system.