I just recently moved home, and comparing my computer to my fathers, it comes up very short: His is an Intel P4 2.4 1 gig ram (dual pipeline enabled) radeon 9800 (128 meg) SB audigy Mine is Intel P4 2.4 1 gig ram (NOT dual pipeline, but top of the line none the less) radeon 9600 (256meg) SB Live! I hope thats enough info for a decent comparison Playing the same game (say Halflife 2 or doom 3), hes getting decent frame rates at 1024X768 with medium to high graphics settings where as Im needing to be closer to 640X480 (doom 3) or 800X600 (halflife) with the settings at medium or LOW (and in fact, doom 3 on low with shadows on is averaging about 22 FPS). Im also noticing and absurdly high frame rate hit if i turn on shadows (say 10fps lower) is this normal for this setup?? Is there that big a diff between the 9800 and the 9600? Im really starting to get worried here! Any input would be amazing!! thanks in advance!!!