I have an old Presario s3000nx with Athlon XP2000+ 1.67 with 266MHz FSB, 768 MB DDR SDRAM (I added 512 Crucial), 64mb GF4 MX440SE AGP4x and 250W power supply. I want to be able to play 2004+ games requiring shader. I realize I'll be playing at minimum settings and still slow but I'm not ready to replace pc yet as gaming is not it's primary function and I play much more low graphics games of strategy then I do bristling action games with online play rather then one player. That said I'm sitting here with gifts of Fear and Act of War unplayable, plus I'd like to get a few others. With my slower pc should I go 68mb or 128 ? 128 I could later put into a p4 3.0 or equivalent also. I'm looking into either a 64 or 128MB Radeon 9600, or I've found just in 128 MB power a few GF Ti 4000 series, or just in 128MB power a few GF 6000 series ? I can buy a 64mb 9600 for $30 including shipping. The rest are a little higher. Now on to my son's pc, which he's not ready to replace either just yet..... He's got a Dimension 4600 P4 2.66GHz with 533 FSB, 256 MB DDR 333MHz non-ECC SDRAM(2 DIMMs), integrated graphics with, from what I've read online, an AGP 4 or 8x slot available. Same question with his -68 or 128 MB video card ? He's into the Warcraft series and plays online regularly and I'd like him to be able to play some of the better games that require T&L and shader.