I have now been at it for 8 hours with a few looks at the search. I have a 3rd machine made of all the old bits which ran 98se fairly well Spec. 400 pent slot pc100system board m762mrt 128sd ram matrox mil4oo g.card 6 gig seagate that I thought was dead but has got better I have disabled onboard virus and os2 as per previous posts, formatted all to ntfs all is well and boots fine into safe mode. Just as it reaches almost finished on normal boot I get a stripey screen for a fraction and then black screen until I press reset. Ive run out of Ideas.