Would you pay up to $1,999 for one of these custom RTX 4090 cards?

Skjorn

Posts: 716   +586
Haha...as if PC gamers would ever have enough self control to boycott a GPU launch.

Well done, everyone. You are now reaping what you sowed by showing Nvidia you were willing to pay whatever it takes to get your flex posting E-Peen highs.
You could easily argue that the other way with as much as they've fallen.
Well done everyone for keeping your wallets closed while GPUs are in freefall.
 

Neatfeatguy

Posts: 1,026   +1,889
- Price is too high
- Electrical bill is too high
- No DP 2.0

I see no reason upgrading from my RTX3080Ti, which should be fine for a couple more years, at least.

Only a couple more years?

I'm hoping my 3080Ti will last me a solid 5-6 years like my last card did. I'm not a graphicswhσre that needs all the eye candy with RT enabled and having to use DLSS to fix the drop in performance. I just like to buy big since SLI is dead so I don't have to upgrade every couple of years.

I gamed just fine with my 980Ti for 6 years and that's across using it to game on 1080p, 5760x1080p and 1440p resolutions. I would have probably kept it a bit longer and skipped the RDNA2 and Ampere gen had it not started acting up with the fans spinning up to 100% randomly. Before the 980Ti was two GTX 570s in SLI for 4.5 years, I tend to hold on to my GPU(s) for a good while.

Anyway, hopefully your 3080Ti lasts you as long as you need it and hopefully mine lasts me, too. I won't give either AMD, Intel nor Nvidia any money on any of their new products, at least not anytime soon.
 
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Geralt

Posts: 1,308   +2,105
I'm not refering to just the 4090. The 4090 is cool and a performance badass, I won't knock it on that front. And, like you said, it is a premium product. However, it's not just the 4090. if the 4070(4080 12gb) costs $900, what is the 4060 going to cost? Are we going to have "mid ranged" cards that cost $500?

There is a lot more going on than just rich people paying for rich people graphics cards. I can afford a 4090, that doesn't mean I think that the VALUE of a 4090 is there to justify the cost.

When you get to a point where you have money you have to look at expensive purchases and think, "is the value here to justify buying this." I cannot justify the cost of a 4090. I would like to add that cards in the $500 price range are not midranged. I'm sure the 4060 will be a powerhouse, but I also think, that the 4060 in no way will be a midranged card. People can hide behind inflation or better performance numbers all they way, it's not going to be a midranged card. They are inflating GPU prices.

I'm also willing to look at this from a business perspective, their costs HAVE gone up. but hiding behind raising prices as a justification to inflate their own prices is just wrong. We, as consumers, should not stand for this.
I fully support this!
 

emmzo

Posts: 767   +1,186
At a minimum wait for AMD 7000 series for a potential price correction especially with those air cooled 4090s at a $400 price premium. The only one that looks promising is the Suprim hybrid card. Nvidia dropped the ball with lack of dp 2.0, they could have cornered the market with Gsync ultimate 2.0 with dp 2.0 with no competition. While I don't like proprietary technology but traditionally proprietary technology leads with innovation and open standards leap frog each other. Currently we have stagnated display technology and hopefully open standard will lead with innovation. If AMD 7000 series gets dp 2.0 then Nvidia will become peasant status 😜. Nvidia is past overdue for an ego correction!
Wanna bet AMD prices will match Nvidia's or be like, 10-20 bucks cheaper?
 

GoldenGoat

Posts: 101   +146
I don't have a problem with selling super cards at a crazy price. If the mid-range cards see similar price increases, it will be the beginning of the end for pc gaming though. A huge part of the pc game market would probably switch to console and mobile gaming. Then it will no longer be profitable to bring games to pc. Then there won't be anything to play on your 4090's.
 

MSIGamer

Posts: 84   +101
Definitely waiting for AMD. A 3080 isn't even available at the price it launched (769€) today. Next gen is completely out of control. Total cash grab.
 

waclark

Posts: 707   +451
Dude, these videocards cost more than my first car. They represent a 100% premium over the 20 series. And while the argument could be made that 100% price increase for 100% more performance is justified, I'm not going ti make that argument
Especially when 100% more performance isn't required and, in some cases, doesn't make the game better. Now I get that RT and DLSS require more performance and 4K+ gaming requires more performance, but you have to ask yourself if it takes $3K or more to build an average gaming PC how much longer will PC gaming be a thing?
 

nodfor

Posts: 322   +578
Especially when 100% more performance isn't required and, in some cases, doesn't make the game better. Now I get that RT and DLSS require more performance and 4K+ gaming requires more performance, but you have to ask yourself if it takes $3K or more to build an average gaming PC how much longer will PC gaming be a thing?
You don't need $3K for an "average" gaming pc.
An average pc could consist of an 5600 ryzen with an RX6700 gpu.
 

godrilla

Posts: 583   +316
Especially when 100% more performance isn't required and, in some cases, doesn't make the game better. Now I get that RT and DLSS require more performance and 4K+ gaming requires more performance, but you have to ask yourself if it takes $3K or more to build an average gaming PC how much longer will PC gaming be a thing?
Currently even before black Friday before the significant sell offs and probably the biggest price war between new retail and second hand market directly, you can build a pc with 6900xt and 58003d cpu for less than $2k and this pc is definitely above average and is still considered high end. PC is not going anywhere! The hundreds of millions of PC gamers will not stop being customers. I hear this every year. 😑
 
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waclark

Posts: 707   +451
You don't need $3K for an "average" gaming pc.
An average pc could consist of an 5600 ryzen with an RX6700 gpu.
You missed the point. We have new GPUs, new CPUs, new RAM all driving larger power supplies, new mobos, new storage (PCIE GEN 4/5), more cooling, and potentially new cases. It all adds up. And with new games driving RT and DLSS you'll need more power than, perhaps, some of those older components can deliver.

Yes, you can build a decent PC for far less than $3K today, but will that hold true in the future?
 

axiomatic13

Posts: 421   +488
I can already max out my monitor at 144Hz in any game I own with my 3090. I need a new monitor more than I need a 4000 series GPU.
 

waclark

Posts: 707   +451
Currently even before black Friday before the significant sell offs and probably the biggest price war between new retail and second hand market directly, you can build a pc with 6900xt and 58003d cpu for less than $2k and this pc is definitely above average and is still considered high end. PC is not going anywhere! The hundreds of millions of PC gamers will not stop being customers. I hear this every year. 😑
You cannot deny that building a good gaming PC has increased in price over the past few years. Sales are one thing, but I noticed this last Labor Day Sale, some vendors actually increased prices just prior to LD so the sales weren't that great. I also haven't seen any great movement in GPU pricing other than the initial drop from the artificially high prices. 30 Series is holding pretty steady or dropping in single digit increments. Most of them are still at or near MSRP, except maybe the 3090 which should never have been a $2K card.

All I'm saying is that this upward inching of costs doesn't seem sustainable.
 

pcnthuziast

Posts: 1,382   +1,172
I'm actually surprised to see prices that low, but give it time. In no time at all, availability will be a real issue and getting one for under 3 grand will be tough. The consumer had power once, but those days are long gone.
 

DonquixoteIII

Posts: 122   +73
"Greed is Good" cry the shareholders, and the lawyers declare that the company has a legally binding contract with the shareholders to charge as much as they can to satisfy the shareholders.
 

ZedRM

Posts: 1,364   +945
I can afford one and no, I'm skipping the 4000 series geforce cards until NVidia brings a GPU to market that runs fast & cool and does NOT use more than 350w.
 
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godrilla

Posts: 583   +316
You cannot deny that building a good gaming PC has increased in price over the past few years. Sales are one thing, but I noticed this last Labor Day Sale, some vendors actually increased prices just prior to LD so the sales weren't that great. I also haven't seen any great movement in GPU pricing other than the initial drop from the artificially high prices. 30 Series is holding pretty steady or dropping in single digit increments. Most of them are still at or near MSRP, except maybe the 3090 which should never have been a $2K card.

All I'm saying is that this upward inching of costs doesn't seem sustainable.
It's true prices are a inflating trajectory but as I predicted there are sales going on now even before Black Friday like Microcenter giving away 32 gig of ddr5 ram kits with a purchase of a Ryzen 7000 Cpu and Newegg has a sale site wide 15% off $350 capped at $100 with code ZIPFEST22 😃. FYI
These companies can attempt to charge as sky is the limit price premium but if the market is willing to pay a limit eventually the price correction hits them with reality. Eg the 3090ti initially launched at $1999 just months later fell to half that at $999 currently. Another eg Ryzen 7000 series launched higher than market would like to pay for it and a price correction seems imminent especially after Raptor lake pricing reveal.
 

yannus

Posts: 110   +97
I'm actually surprised to see prices that low, but give it time. In no time at all, availability will be a real issue and getting one for under 3 grand will be tough. The consumer had power once, but those days are long gone.
Sadly possible as everything is under control of three huge corporations.
 

yannus

Posts: 110   +97
I've ended my relationship with nVidia after switching to them from my 3dfx. Done, over. I can handle a few frames less to get an affordable card. This is just raping the customer base, all it is.
In the past there used to be competition : S3, Intel, Matrox, 3dfx, ATI, powerVR.... Nvidia entered the competition and they ALL died (AMD saved ATI later). Nvidia, probably helped by Blackrock's infinite money, erased the competition and ended the golden age of computers.
 

Gastec

Posts: 284   +141
That meme picture with Steve Carell from the television comedy series "The Office" reminds me of the saying "I am too poor to buy cheap things". But this does not apply to the RTX 4000 series video cards. What improvements to the visual quality of gaming do these graphical cards bring to justify their high prices and power consumption? And please stop it with the DLSS and other super-sampling blurring propaganda!