Microsoft: hardly anyone plays first person shooters on the PC

By on September 21, 2010, 11:11 AM
Microsoft Game Studios manager Kudo Tsunoda has been aggressively talking up Xbox 360 Kinect in the last few days, and while doing so he's expressed his opinion on the current state of PC gaming. According to him, Halo is responsible for "hardly anyone" playing first-person shooters on the PC nowadays.

"Halo did an awesome job of building a first-person shooter exclusively for the console, and now hardly anyone plays first person shooters on the PC anymore," the Microsoft spokesperson told GameInformer (via Neowin). "It's all about the console."

Tsunoda believes that first-person shooters started on the PC, developers then tried to port them to the console, but they only really took off when they were built for the console from the ground-up. Shooters on the console started to be really fun when developers stopped porting them from the PC. His argument is that the same will happen with Kinect: when asked what he thought of Kinect's use in future games, he explained that taking a game made for a controller and porting it over to Kinect will never be as good an experience as taking the time to build a game for the Kinect from the ground up.

In context, his analogy makes sense. It wasn't necessary, however, to take a stab at shooters on the PC. Even if shooters are doing well on the console, there are still many shooters that are developed just for the PC that are great. In the same way, even when Kinect takes off, there will still be many games developed for the Xbox platform that will not be built for it, and they will still be great.

Microsoft is pushing hard to market the Kinect. The first-person shooter quote comes hot on the heels of Microsoft saying that it is targeting more than three million units sold in the first two months and the same representative predicting the motion-sensor gaming accessory will outsell the iPad. The device will launch on November 4 in the US and on November 10 in Europe.





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treeski treeski said:

I've never been a console person, and if I ever am, I can guarantee it won't be for first person shooters. That comment makes me

Lokalaskurar Lokalaskurar said:

Unless consoles become a custom-build device just like the PC, there will always be PC-FPS fanboys trying to tweak every little framerate out of Crysis, Far Cry, Brothers in Arms or whatever suits them.

TomSEA TomSEA, TechSpot Chancellor, said:

Just a Microsoft mouthpiece promoting the Kinect (which will ultimately fail because it's a niche item to attract non-traditional gamers just like the Wii did). Traditional gamers will stick with "real games" with a "real controller," not novelty stuff.

The list of shooter games played on the PC is a mile long with millions of active participants, and any gamer worth their salt knows that.

Guest said:

If anything, the "downfall" of modern PC FPS games has been that devlopers have been porting them from consoles for the PC.

IamBD said:

I hate FPS on the consoles since they can not be as precise and as fast as a PC one. And if I recall, Halo was being devoloped for the PC, but then MS decided to have Bungie finish it as an XBOX launch title, so that game wasnt built from the ground up for them. That statment should have "FPS" switched with "Sports games".

Vrmithrax Vrmithrax, TechSpot Paladin, said:

Yah, talk about a company forgetting its roots. Halo wouldn't exist if not for PC gaming, and the original Xbox WAS just a simplified and specialized PC, which (if anyone remembers) was being pushed as one of the positives of that console, when it first launched. Just pathetic that they would sell out their ancestry to try to drum up and justify sales of the lamest "motion interface" product hitting the market now.

Relic Relic, TechSpot Chancellor, said:

Tsunoda is a bit of a fruitcake to say the least, but I do understand what he's trying to say. At least you guys properly put him into context unlike many other sites, however his choice of words is still pretty poor. While PC gaming may no longer have that one shooter with a giant 700k+ user base playing at one time, the amount of shooters still active with servers ranging from the tens to hundreds of thousands far exceed that of consoles.

treeski treeski said:

Lokalaskurar said:

Unless consoles become a custom-build device just like the PC, there will always be PC-FPS fanboys trying to tweak every little framerate out of Crysis, Far Cry, Brothers in Arms or whatever suits them.

Yeah, because that's exactly why gamers on PCs play FPSers. It has nothing to do with better visuals, better controls etc... *face-palm*

Zilliak said:

haha halo killed it for pc gamers and yeah halo started out as pc but ended up being a full blown console game and was ported to pc. It was built from the ground up for xbox.

Wagan8r Wagan8r said:

Yeah... tell that to the Team Fortress 2 and Battlefield: Bad Company 2 crowds.

Guest said:

I think he got hit by the sticky grenade on his b***s . FPS on PC > on CONSOLES(PERIOD).

Archean Archean, TechSpot Paladin, said:

Such an foolish comment by this Mr. Kudo Tsunoda ...... sometimes I do wonder what will happen to Windows if people stop playing games on PC? One of the most compelling reasons for windows constantly being the most used OS is PC gaming, so do he really wants to shoot himself (or MS for that matter) in the foot?

Cueto_99 said:

"Hardly anyone plays first person shooters on the PC anymore"... Really? in what planet are you living Kudo? Probably Reach... News on Earth is most FPS Gamers play on PC, and a mouse is the best weapon for us, not a controller and neither will be kinect...

SilverCider said:

Archean said:

Such an foolish comment by this Mr. Kudo Tsunoda ...... sometimes I do wonder what will happen to Windows if people stop playing games on PC? One of the most compelling reasons for windows constantly being the most used OS is PC gaming, so do he really wants to shoot himself (or MS for that matter) in the foot?

I can almost guarantee this never crossed his mind! Haha!

Tekkaraiden Tekkaraiden said:

There has to be something in the air or in the water in Redmond.

Hazard said:

omg ... is this guy genuinely high?

ok paragraph 1 : sooo your saying that HARDLY ANYONE PLAYS FPS ON PC ANYMORE ... Half-life, Unreal Tournament, Left 4 Dead, and say that to the ( i qoute, source Steam ) '' 67,64 (players online) Counter-Strike: Source, and another 65,378 (players online) Counter-Strike.

Par 2: same as par 1

par 3: ''Tsunoda believes that first-person shooters started on the PC, developers then tried to port them to the console, but they only really took off when they were built for the console from the ground-up. '' yeah especially doom...

par 4: Now... dont think im some type of pc all the way fanboy i own a ps3 and wii... and personally prefer my pc... but in a way its like microsoft back stabbed and spoke straight outta there ass.

Par 5: i personally think kinect wont sell as much as theyre hoping the average 40 year old is going to think... '' qmm this new technology sure is complicated, i might stick to my wii '' yes i know its very easy to use but old people tend to think that...

conc: sorry i made this really long but 1 no word limit :P and 2 im actually pissed at how such professional companys/people are able to talk outta there ass.. thank you :P

BabyFaceLee BabyFaceLee said:

Guest said:

If anything, the "downfall" of modern PC FPS games has been that devlopers have been porting them from consoles for the PC.

Absolutely true. Half-hearted 'ports have emasculated the PC versions of console games. Bring back the days when highly capable PC games were developed and subsequently 'ported to console i.e. trimmed back.

Eddie_42 Eddie_42 said:

Halo had a PC version, I played it.

Graphics of a PC are far superior to anything a console can kick out, and as such i will stick with my PC, play some LFD2, CoD, and TF2

IamBD said:

"haha halo killed it for pc gamers and yeah halo started out as pc but ended up being a full blown console game and was ported to pc. It was built from the ground up for xbox"

That statement is contridicting itself.

Guest said:

That is probably a "marketing" statement. I maybe the few, but PC FPS is still the one for me.

Why no FPS on the console for me...two reasons:

1. I hated Bungie cause I waited up to 3hrs at E3 to watch their Halo intro only to learn later they turn it into a Console :-(

2. I can't...ever...get used to those controller.

Now, if they can make Kinect to work right on FPS and get a 60"+ screen, then maybe........

nah...probably not, haha.

-ks

EXCellR8 EXCellR8, The Conservative, said:

i'm getting a kinect so i can step on it...

the guy obviously has no idea what he's talking about, like most microsoft employees for that matter. the steam community, while not quite as big as XBL, is massive now and most of the games on there are FPS. if that's "hardly anyone" than seriously how many people are signed up for XBL? 3 trillion?

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Per Hansson Per Hansson, TS Server Guru, said:

For me racing games etc work great on a console (with the controller)

FPS is just wrong, so imprecise and slow movement, it really does not work for me

He may well be right when looking at total sales numbers tho

And that really makes me sad, because these companies care nothing for the people anymore, it's all about how much money they can milk out of a franchise, nothing else

red1776 red1776, Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe, said:

if they are going to drop the PC versions, they had better start making i7 crossfire/sli consoles...oh wait...

fwilliams said:

A PC hooked up with a wheel and pedal is awesome for racing games.

Archean Archean, TechSpot Paladin, said:

And that really makes me sad, because these companies care nothing for the people anymore, it's all about how much money they can milk out of a franchise, nothing else

Pretty damning but factual indeed, but don't worry, there is a spot of light at the end of the tunnel ...... don't buy consoles ...... well on a more serious note I haven't found one compelling reason to buy one so far, gaming on PC is just more 'precise and fun' period.

Xiztence said:

Not only does his comments regarding PC gaming irritate me but ill prove he's very wrong with one link :) http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

KG363 KG363 said:

Guess who has two thumbs and isn't buying kinect?

Guest said:

It's amazing how companies can buy people and make them puppets. Valve, DICE, and ID are all laughing so hard right now I bet.

teklord teklord said:

Without having actual figures of all console FPS and PC FPS games being played online, my guess would be that PC has more players playing than consoles do. That statement is ludicrous to say the least. With full Xbox 360 support in GFW games that use a gamepad, there is no reason to buy a console when my PC is way more powerful.

z0k! said:

Whatever happened to that news article about PC gamers killing XBL crowd on those cross-platform games..

HaMsTeYr HaMsTeYr said:

A foolish comment to say the least. Oh microsoft how you make a fool of yourself. Like mashing a turd on your face and expecting us all to take you seriously while preaching world destruction

TitoBXNY TitoBXNY said:

PC gamers annihilated console gamers in closed test. hahahah

The proposal, part of Microsoft's LIVE push, popped up "many many months ago", and would have allowed people playing games available on both PC and 360 - like Gears of War - to take each other on. Kind of like 2007 shooter Shadowrun, only people would actually play it.

Problems quickly arose in testing, however, when Microsoft found that even the best console gamers simply couldn't compete with the accuracy a mouse and keyboard afforded a PC player. "The console players got destroyed every time", Sood says. "So much so that it would be embarrassing to the XBOX team in general had Microsoft launched this initiative."

anguis said:

xbox live = something like 2-300k users on at any given time

steam = 1-2.6 million users at any given time

PC has WAY more FPS titles than console and many more years of FPS games

im willing to bet the numbers comparison for pc fps gamers at any time vs console fps gamers at any time is RIDICULOUSLY in favor of PC.

hellokitty[hk] hellokitty[hk], I'm a TechSpot Evangelist, said:

Just a guess; they're BSing this.

kakarot27 said:

wagan8r said:

Yeah... tell that to the Team Fortress 2 and Battlefield: Bad Company 2 crowds.

lol bring this to the attention of the competitive side of tf2..............so much trolling LOL

blue44 said:

the fps on the pc will never die...its the only way to play...i dont own a ps, wii, or xbox...i'm an old school pc gamer...no thanks...i'll stick with my pc.....

Guest said:

Damn straight, Lokalaskurar. Couldn't have said it better myself. PC all the way!

Adhmuz Adhmuz, TechSpot Paladin, said:

Open mouth. Insert Foot. Rinse. Repeat...

PC, It Only Does Everything. Oh wait or is that the other console?

Anyway, anyone who thinks consoles are the way to play FPS games should be shot, anyone who thinks playing by flailing around like an ***** is the way to play a FPS is in the same boat. Mouse, Keyboard, PERIOD...

tipstir tipstir, TS Ambassador, said:

Pong, Colecovision, ADAM Family PC, PS1, and now Wii (got that from the wife)

Frankly I prefer the just as Colecvision did for ADAM to beef up the console game to PC arcade level. You need PC experience, plus who the heck going to shell out for Xbox 360 Elite and PS3, shoot you can get a quad core and better graphic for less than what you have pay for those systems.

Guest said:

I think what he meant to say was "hardly anyone pays for first person shooters on the PC anymore". Which is probably why all these companies are trying to make up excuses to try and get out of the PC gaming market. All kidding aside this is a ridiculous statement. All my friends who play FPS games still use PC's. Some play on consoles occasionally, but the controllers just aren't precise enough. Keyboard and mouse still beats a controller for shooters when it comes to speed and accuracy...

St1ckM4n St1ckM4n said:

Lol, didn't MS themselves admit in a study that PC gamers own console players?

In FPS games.

LNCPapa LNCPapa said:

I'll shell out for them - but I've gotta have my PCs too.

Tekkaraiden Tekkaraiden said:

You know the amusing thing it that every tech website has now headlined the word Kinect. Makes you wonder if that might have been the reason behind for what he said.

Guest said:

I have been pc gaming since 1986, FPS's and Flight simulators, and stategy, ive played cod:waw on a wii and was horrible i'll stick to the pc. It is downright criminal what happened to the good flightsims, consoles are worthless for flightsims and they dont make any for the good ones ie., janes longbow2 , for the pc.

spitfire122 said:

hardly FPS on PCs? is this ******* ***** stupid or just has down syndrome he can't help? FPS are MEANT FOR PC. Mouse + keyboard is how you shoot, not with analog fag stick. Its impossible to actually shoot and aim propertly with xbox / ps3 controller.

real skill is from mouse+keyboard. until those things are placed into every new xbox 720 and PS4, PC FPS will always be better.

Guest said:

are yu insane man ?

only children use consoles.. especialy for first person shooters !

Battlefield Mw2 are all on Steam / Valve ...

check the Pc sales ...

Guest said:

Well, He's not really looking at the Big Picture. Halo is what? played by almost all FPS gamers all over the world? Even Counter Strike is played by many in some countries who never even played Halo. Here in the Philippines for Example, never had an official Halo Tournament, its just not popular. Thats why almost FPS Tournaments are PC-Based.

I've Tried Halo, its good but doesnt really amazed me. and besides, its real awkward for me to play FPS not holding on to a Keyboard and a Mouse.

That to say, at least, that PC-FPS gaming is sure to stay and will be good for the majority depending on their Influences. Saying "hardly anyone plays FPS on PC" is a big overstatement, its like saying, in 5 years, FPS will all be console based.

Guest said:

Bollocks. Consoles have ruined FPS'ers for a whole generation of young people who will probably never understand how good a FPS can be.

Guest said:

I bough a consol for one main reason, to fet my kids off of my computer! So when I get home I can play my games, surf the net, program, etc...

As far as games go, FPS are not the only game in town and many play RTS games like Civ. This article is little more than a press peice to drum up sales for their new controller.

AdrianYi said:

"Hardly anyone plays first person shooters on the PC" sayd Microsoft in hopes to attract more people to their crapy console. Oh and btw, I don't see CS players playing on consoles, do you? (I'm using Counter-Strike as an example cause its one of the most popular FPS out there).

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