Toshiba develops nickel-sized HD

By on December 16, 2003, 12:47 AM
Toshiba Corp. has developed a hard disk drive about the size of a nickel that can be used to store music and video in mobile phones and other portable gadgets.

The 0.85 inch diameter disk is believed to be the world's smallest hard disk drive that can store about 2 or 3 gigabytes worth of information, company spokeswoman Midori Suzuki said Monday.

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SNGX1275 said:
Thats incredible that companies have been able to create that amount of storage on that small of a disk. Think back 10 years ago, people weren't even running windows, only a few were running Mac System 6. And then 40 megs seemed amazing.I can see this being very influential on the all in one market (cell phone - pda - gps).
vassil3427 said:
I thought we were trying to move past mechanical drives?
Inimbrium said:
[quote][i]Originally posted by vassil3427 [/i]I thought we were trying to move past mechanical drives? [/quote]Well, we are, but they can't even make large, practical, and cheap non mechanical drives (ie. memory, crystals, whatever), so until they can, mechanical HDDs remain the cheapest solution (by far) to a large storage. :) It will be funny to go though the mobile's menus and hear the HDD clicking away. hehe. 8) One problem that they'll probably have to solve (if they haevn't done so already) is to make these HDDs very shock resistant. I must have dropped my phones 100 times. I don't want any bad sectors really. Heh, running defrag on yer phone. Should be fun. :D
poertner_1274 said:
I can't even imagine what you will have to pay for this. You know how technology is, the smaller the more expensive. But I must say this is pretty incredible that they are able to do this. And to have the confidence to start mass manufacturing and selling it for early 2005. That is simply amazing. I just hope their is a demand for them, or it looks like Toshiba has developed a nickel sized paper-weight :)
Strakian said:
You must remember that in time that price drops significantly to reflect cost and demand. If this new slice of bread hit the market x-mas day this year, by about 2005 it'd be old news, ,and you could pick it up for 80 bucks instead of 350. Also by then it will have been developed BETTER and manufactured cheaper. (This premise based on current computer gadget exponential decay in price.)I don't have a lot of cash to throw around, so I'm usually the guy who buys the second best, cuz I'm patient enough to miss out for a couple months while the pricec drops. I'm looking forward to my Radeon 9600 Pro this x-mas, and knowing it didn't cost as much as a used car makes me happy. Can't wait for my 9800XT next year, etc. :grinthumb
StormBringer said:
[quote][i]Originally posted by SNGX1275 [/i]I can see this being very influential on the all in one market (cell phone - pda - gps). [/quote] Yes this could be just what is needed in order to bring everything together as we were discussing in this [URL=http://www.techspot.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9
33]thread[/URL] This should really make handheld's much more desirable. Right now, having to use flash memory for storage is kind of a hassle and a bit expensive, especially if you use a lot of it. I can see things really taking off within the next year as result of this(or at least this making a huge contribution to it)
BrownPaper said:
it'd be cool to watch videos and listen to music on a portable device with a large capacity hard drive. i imagine i would have to bring some headphones along as i do not think a cell phone's speaker would be adaquate for listening pleasure. that is unless someone comes up with great sounding microspeakers.
poertner_1274 said:
[quote][i]Originally posted by StormBringer [/i]...This should really make handheld's much more desirable. Right now, having to use flash memory for storage is kind of a hassle and a bit expensive, especially if you use a lot of it... [/quote] But the only problem with this could lie in the fact that people move their PDA's and other devices around so much wouldn't that have a greater risk of crashing a head on a HDD? I mean with flash there is no moving parts, and you can do what you want, but with a HDD it causes some more problems all together.
StormBringer said:
[quote][i]Originally posted by poertner_1274 [/i]But the only problem with this could lie in the fact that people move their PDA's and other devices around so much wouldn't that have a greater risk of crashing a head on a HDD? I mean with flash there is no moving parts, and you can do what you want, but with a HDD it causes some more problems all together. [/quote] Thats true, but I'd hope that along with making these things smaller, they'd also make them more shock proof. I remember several years ago, a portable CD player would skip if you walked across the room with it. I have one now that is nearly impossible to make skip. It may take some time, but I think this is a huge jump toward that end.
agrav8r said:
[quote][i]Originally posted by StormBringer [/i]Thats true, but I'd hope that along with making these things smaller, they'd also make them more shock proof. I remember several years ago, a portable CD player would skip if you walked across the room with it. I have one now that is nearly impossible to make skip. It may take some time, but I think this is a huge jump toward that end. [/quote] Hard drives use aerodynamics to work, and so the "shock proofing" is not the same as in CD players. (BTW if you don't believe me, just cover the little hole on your hard drive) Dropping the device causes the reader to hit the platter. The only way i can see this being prevented is if the head and platter were permentaly fixed objects and the "casing " moved- oppisite of what we have now. i believe this would slow down sekk/finds tremendously and you would have to use a different sectors system ( grid vs radial). I personally don't use my phone as an MP# player, nor to save addresses. I find it kind of appaling that my foot massager,back scratcher, cell phone, nose hair clipper, MP3 player, toliet paper dispenser can be used as a PDA. Sometimes i get comfused as to which mode I am in, but have decided not to be embarressed anymore. Hey, doing it wrong is fun a partys right?8)
StormBringer said:
[quote][i]Originally posted by agrav8r [/i]Hard drives use aerodynamics to work, and so the "shock proofing" is not the same as in CD players. (BTW if you don't believe me, just cover the little hole on your hard drive) Dropping the device causes the reader to hit the platter.[/quote] I am well aware of how HDDs work, I also said it would take time. I also don't believe that Toshiba would have aimed these drives at the handheld market if they hadn't already made at least some efforts to "shock-proof" these drives. [quote]I personally don't use my phone as an MP# player, nor to save addresses. I find it kind of appaling that my foot massager,back scratcher, cell phone, nose hair clipper, MP3 player, toliet paper dispenser can be used as a PDA. Sometimes i get comfused as to which mode I am in, but have decided not to be embarressed anymore. Hey, doing it wrong is fun a partys right?8) [/quote] Personally, I like the idea of having several handheld devices combined to one, especially since I have to carry all these things from jobsite to jobsite, it would lighten my load somewhat to be able to combine some of those devices into one.
Rick said:
Corporations should spend less on mechanical drives and spend more on lowering the price of superior electronic storage.
agrav8r said:
[quote][i]Originally posted by StormBringer [/i]I am well aware of how HDDs work, I also said it would take time. I also don't believe that Toshiba would have aimed these drives at the handheld market if they hadn't already made at least some efforts to "shock-proof" these drives. Personally, I like the idea of having several handheld devices combined to one, especially since I have to carry all these things from jobsite to jobsite, it would lighten my load somewhat to be able to combine some of those devices into one. [/quote] Funny they have on I believe it is called a day planner. Completely upgradeable and costs about 45 dollars. Additional memory about 4 to 10 dollars for a years worth of storage. Can't remember the last time I needed a MP# player at work, but hey, if your are not really there to work:knock: And the worst things about the pda/phone is that the designs are for one style or the other. Either it is comfortable to hold to your ear, but has a backwards keypad, or it is easy to use and type, but severe head trauma occurs the moment you answer it.If, big if, they get voice operation to work on a device this small, then i will agree, but until then you can keep my coffee maker, disco ball , pdapuke:
StormBringer said:
FYI agrav8r, I currently use a Laptop to program PLC controllers, which would be much easier if I had the ability to run the needed software on a smaller device and still have a tolerable UI. I also constantly need to crossreference part #s and access technical data for several types of equipment, some of this can be done with a PDA, other files are too large and must be kept on my laptop, I also need my phone with me at all times while on a jobsite, and I also use my PDA as a dayplanner, but the list goes on, none of which involve toilet paper, media players, or coffee makers. Rick, I agree with you, it would be nice to have solid state drives that would be about the same size as these and store as much data as the drives we currently use in our desktops.
Vehementi said:
[quote]A 2-gigabyle hard disk drive can store about 30 hours of music but cannot store movie-length video, she said. Toshiba plans to start taking orders by the summer of next year to start mass production as early as 2005, she said.[/quote] Whoa!!! 2-gigabyle!!! It's bigger than I thought ;)I am really surprised. Especially because the size of relatively high capacity mechanical drives went straight from the size of laptop HDD (the smallest) to the size [i]of a nickel[/i]. Or was there something in between? I never heard about anything smaller than laptop drives until this, besides flash memory.
vassil3427 said:
Vehementi, there are the 2.2GB CompactFlash IBM Microdrives(Which is obviously the size of a compact flash card) It's a very tiny HDD, I've heard they are easy to mess up though. If you drop it from even a few feet up, it's toast.....
Vehementi said:
Ah I thought those all used flash memory (SRAM). But, good to know. Still, we went all the way from the size of laptop drives to the sizes of a nickel [i]and a CompactFlash card[/i].
agrav8r said:
[quote][i]Originally posted by StormBringer [/i]FYI agrav8r, I currently use a Laptop to program PLC controllers, which would be much easier if I had the ability to run the needed software on a smaller device and still have a tolerable UI. I also constantly need to crossreference part #s and access technical data for several types of equipment, some of this can be done with a PDA, other files are too large and must be kept on my laptop, I also need my phone with me at all times while on a jobsite, and I also use my PDA as a dayplanner, but the list goes on, none of which involve toilet paper, media players, or coffee makers. Rick, I agree with you, it would be nice to have solid state drives that would be about the same size as these and store as much data as the drives we currently use in our desktops. [/quote] Touchy touchy well to make amends how about this? You at least don't have to carry a wallet, while you wash dishes and use the PDA functions of your portable toliet[url]http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99
94486[/url]The World's No.1 Science & Technology News Service Cellphone allows users to swipe and go 15:23 16 December 03 NewScientist.com news service A trial starting on Wednesday will allow thousands of Japanese mobile phone owners to use their phones as a swipe card to pay for purchases, as travel passes, and as concert and movie tickets.The trial is the first to embed smart cards within the phones, and has been set up by phone company NTT DoCoMo and electronics giant Sony. Like other "contactless" smartcards, the user simply has to place their phone near a reader to exchange information. This does away with the need to have printed tickets or passes. So, for example, a cinema ticket could be bought using the phone's online features, with a swipe of the phone giving entry to the screening. For length i only posted part of the story. It goes on about the multiple functions, that you are so desiring for Xmas. hope you haven't been naughty.
agrav8r said:
[quote][i]Originally posted by StormBringer [/i]Thats true, but I'd hope that along with making these things smaller, they'd also make them more shock proof. I remember several years ago, a portable CD player would skip if you walked across the room with it. I have one now that is nearly impossible to make skip. It may take some time, but I think this is a huge jump toward that end. [/quote] i just love to inform you of all the new things out there. I found out how they are going to make it shock proof.[url]http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/tech/articl
.jsp?id=99994239&sub=Gadgets%20and%20Inventions[/url]Lapto
s incorporate drop-protection 'airbags' By Will Knight The world's first laptops incorporating automatic protection against the damage caused by a drop have been launched by US computer maker IBM.The new ThinkPad systems use an onboard accelerometer to detect a sudden fall. If an impact seems imminent, then within a tenth of a second the computer's hard drive stops writing data and the read/write head is retracted to a safe position.This is to protect the drive from damage that can result from jarring. An impact can cause the drive's heads to skid across the magnetic disks used to store information inside a hard drive, creating unusable sectors and erasing data.The components most prone to damage are a laptop's hard drive, its display and its keyboard. But losing information stored on the machine's hard drive is the biggest worry for users, IBM believes.The company compares its Active Protection System to the technology used in automobiles to deploy airbags during an impact. Worldwide product manager for IBM, Bill Iori, told NewsFactor: "The airbag will save the most important part, the driver and passengers. In this case, [the stored data] comes out alive, even if the LCD doesn't."Active Protection System technology comes with the Thinkpad R50 and T41 laptops. IBM plans to patent the idea. Either that or you can just click the pillow function and leave it on on your iron, tennis racket , pda, lava lamp, portalbe bed. :haha:
poertner_1274 said:
That almost seems kind of silly if you ask me. It will ruin your whole computer, except for the HDD, due to the impact. But I guess you can keep you data. And what happens when one of these doesn't go off, and the user loses all their data which was their corporate partners and millions of dollars in work. Is IBM going to pay for this, because they said their drives had an airbag? Seems a little far fetched and might cause more problems than IBM is considering.
StormBringer said:
Well, agrav8r, I'm not ditching my wallet just yet, although it looks like you did a pretty good job of posting things that back my position on this. Poert, I think that the "airbag" thing might be a good idea, maybe not to begin with, it may take a bit of time(from the looks of it, the article seems to indicate its already in use). I also think it would only guard against falls severe enough to damage the drive, but not severe enough to kill everything else, otherwise, that would be kind of pointless(except for data protection as you mentioned)BTW, agrav8r, please don't double post, use the EDIT feature instead
Rick said:
I think the "airbag" technology is a good step for mechanical drives... But the fight to hang on to mechanical storage is still futile....Solid state drives will take over!Data is important to consumers and critical to businesses. The unreliability of mechanical storage is obviously going to be its downfall in the coming years as it is replaced with electronic storage.
poertner_1274 said:
It's only a matter of time before all the technology we use is outdated and newer and much better technology is implemented. I'm still not sure I would trust this technology. It will take a while to get me hooked.
agrav8r said:
[quote][i]Originally posted by StormBringer [/i]Well, agrav8r, I'm not ditching my wallet just yet, although it looks like you did a pretty good job of posting things that back my position on this. Poert, I think that the "airbag" thing might be a good idea, maybe not to begin with, it may take a bit of time(from the looks of it, the article seems to indicate its already in use). I also think it would only guard against falls severe enough to damage the drive, but not severe enough to kill everything else, otherwise, that would be kind of pointless(except for data protection as you mentioned)BTW, agrav8r, please don't double post, use the EDIT feature instead [/quote] Although it may sound otherwise, i would eventually like to see everything in one items. My concern is that currnet renditions are ill designed hybrids, and instead of designing with the best of both ( or multiple ) worlds, they jam two devices together, and neither works as well as an individual of each. One may argue that this is due to the infancy of the technology, but it seems that the rush to get the "new" and the "improved" to cash in on those that must have the top of the line seems the more likely case.BTW with the length of the two posts, I felt it would be easier to read, plus I wouldn't feel comfortable with my nick and all if i had done that :mad:
StormBringer said:
When I refered to all-in-one devices, I thought it was implied that it would be a product that would work together in a desirable way, not something merely "tolerable" to use. I am not the kind of person who need the latest gadget, but I would like to someday have something that could combine some of my current devices, though it would have to be something that could function properly. I'm sure there will be a few less than desirable versions of these all-in-ones before I toss my other devices for one of them. The drives mentioned in the topic of this thread is a step in that direction, yes, I would like to have solid state storage, and I'd like to have all my devices in one, but I also know that it takes steps to get there, some of them not so great, others seemingly backward. I also know that with the rate of tech advancements, this will possibly be in the very near future(including all the crappy versions and backward momentum that may happen along the way)For now, it seems these drives are the next step, if they don't work out(for the reasons we all mentioned) then the next logical step would seem to be moving to solid state storage devices.
poertner_1274 said:
Personally I hope it moves to solid state drives, simply because of the non moving parts. That is always a scary thing when it comes to data and the possibility of failure. I had a guy move a desktop the other day at work and didn't really do that much to it and the HDD head crashed. It's the simple stuff like that, now I'm totally aware that it probably got jarred and they aren't meant for that, but I'm just saying.
tripleione said:
Just imagine what can be accomplished once parts like these can be duplicated on modern PCs. More and more devices can be loaded very easily into any case and easily provide space for expansion, even in the smallest of work areas.However, I'm also wondering about potential heat issues with parts like these. Our current hard drive produce quite a good deal of heat, but due to size they are easily cooled by large fans. However, with drive as small as nickels, they will undoubtedly become harder to cool (much like how it is now harder to cool the die of a CPU because of less surface area).I guess it's a challenge the industry will have to face when it gets there, though. ;)
agrav8r said:
[quote][i]Originally posted by tripleione [/i]Just imagine what can be accomplished once parts like these can be duplicated on modern PCs. More and more devices can be loaded very easily into any case and easily provide space for expansion, even in the smallest of work areas.However, I'm also wondering about potential heat issues with parts like these. Our current hard drive produce quite a good deal of heat, but due to size they are easily cooled by large fans. However, with drive as small as nickels, they will undoubtedly become harder to cool (much like how it is now harder to cool the die of a CPU because of less surface area).I guess it's a challenge the industry will have to face when it gets there, though. ;) [/quote] Why do you say that?smaller parts = less energy use, motion, and heat build up. This would also allow 1 smaller heat sink to do the same job that a large number of sinks and fans do in the large systems.If it is a flip phone they will probably place the airflow system at the hinge area of the phone and just have a few noiseless sinks in place to cool it. Fan noise on a phone would probably garble any communiques anyway.
agrav8r said:
[quote][i]Originally posted by StormBringer [/i]When I refered to all-in-one devices, I thought it was implied that it would be a product that would work together in a desirable way, not something merely "tolerable" to use. I am not the kind of person who need the latest gadget, but I would like to someday have something that could combine some of my current devices, though it would have to be something that could function properly. I'm sure there will be a few less than desirable versions of these all-in-ones before I toss my other devices for one of them. The drives mentioned in the topic of this thread is a step in that direction, yes, I would like to have solid state storage, and I'd like to have all my devices in one, but I also know that it takes steps to get there, some of them not so great, others seemingly backward. I also know that with the rate of tech advancements, this will possibly be in the very near future(including all the crappy versions and backward momentum that may happen along the way)For now, it seems these drives are the next step, if they don't work out(for the reasons we all mentioned) then the next logical step would seem to be moving to solid state storage devices. [/quote] Sorry I misunderstood.I typically deal in the here and now and don't usually talk about mystical devices that will be developed by the magical crop fairies in the distant future. Until i see one that works, or read an article about the building of one in say 6 months or so, I assume it is going to be status quo all the way. I typically make the same assumptions about posters threads, unless they specifically state that they believe in pixies , dwarf and unicorns. Then i pat them on their heads and say " where is our flying car?" ( circa 1950's)
XtR-X said:
This is insane. Now imagine the future having really large capacity very small hard drives in your pocket. Take the computer with you as you go, then plug it in!
poertner_1274 said:
But what is the point in just thinking in what is currently going on? Isn't it somewhat 'fun' in a way to think about what might come in the future? If you soimply live in the present then I feel sorry for you, because what do you have to look forward to? At least this way you can try to imagine things and maybe get a better idea fo what is to come in the future of technology.
StormBringer said:
Very good point Poert. Its good to keep an eye on the horizon to see what might lie ahead, especially when you rely on it and have to stay on top of the latest developments for your livelyhood. Besides, looking ahead is what fuels innovation.I don't see what is so "mystical" about the things I mentioned. I was trying to present a logical and realistic use and evolution for this product and its part in helping to combine devices to eliminate clutter. If you think its not realistic, or feel that its the stuff of fairytales, thats your opinion. I stand behind my view on the topic.
agrav8r said:
[quote][i]Originally posted by poertner_1274 [/i]But what is the point in just thinking in what is currently going on? Isn't it somewhat 'fun' in a way to think about what might come in the future? If you soimply live in the present then I feel sorry for you, because what do you have to look forward to? At least this way you can try to imagine things and maybe get a better idea fo what is to come in the future of technology. [/quote] You're right. i should be fanticizing about my voice activated vitual reality juicer/ plunger/ pda. If i save up i can get the urinal cake attachment. :rolleyes: What was i thinking. I have lead such a sad sad life, but you have shown me the way. i will know only worry about the future, as impossible as it may seem.:angel: The idea is to discuss news and how the articles relates to us in our world and the not so distant future. i have no problems with that ,but if you desire to speak of hypotheticals in a hundred or so years from now, pardon me if i poke a little fun. If we are to go that far, why are we not discussing, oh i don't know, Star Trek tri-corders? or perhaps you would like a discourse on light based transmissions and the impact on the endangered prarie dog?Again i get off subject
poertner_1274 said:
I don't see where I even mentioned hundreds of years from now?!?!? I simply said that the future is where the technology is, not the present. And I don't think it is that far fetched to think about multifuntion devices, realistic ones by all means. We aren't talking about the same BS you are. And don't get me wrong, I thought we were discussing the topic, and where the future was heading, by all means [b]NEAR[/b] future. There is no way anyone can predict what will happen hundreds of years from now, only across the close horizon. And just because I am looking ahead trying to create a little more debate and thoughts among the rest of us. But aparently that isn't what I'm supposed to do.....I'm sorry to the rest of you :rolleyes:
SNGX1275 said:
[quote][i]Originally posted by agrav8r [/i]You're right. i should be fanticizing about my voice activated vitual reality juicer/ plunger/ pda. If i save up i can get the urinal cake attachment. :rolleyes: What was i thinking. I have lead such a sad sad life, but you have shown me the way. i will know only worry about the future, as impossible as it may seem.:angel: The idea is to discuss news and how the articles relates to us in our world and the not so distant future. i have no problems with that ,but if you desire to speak of hypotheticals in a hundred or so years from now, pardon me if i poke a little fun. If we are to go that far, why are we not discussing, oh i don't know, Star Trek tri-corders? or perhaps you would like a discourse on light based transmissions and the impact on the endangered prarie dog?Again i get off subject [/quote] I think you are a bit out of line here, I re-read all of Stormbringer's posts in this thread, and all he mentioned were that this could make hand-helds more desirable, and making them more shock proof. Then out of no where you started talking about toilet paper, what caused that? You also then continued to expand your outrageous list of non tech related items in subsequent posts, again for no apparent reason.I think pretty much the point he and I made is how this can help combine existing technologies, espically if they can shockproof the drives.
agrav8r said:
[quote][i]Originally posted by SNGX1275 [/i]I think you are a bit out of line here, I re-read all of Stormbringer's posts in this thread, and all he mentioned were that this could make hand-helds more desirable, and making them more shock proof. Then out of no where you started talking about toilet paper, what caused that? You also then continued to expand your outrageous list of non tech related items in subsequent posts, again for no apparent reason.I think pretty much the point he and I made is how this can help combine existing technologies, espically if they can shockproof the drives. [/quote] I must have been mistaken, did he not post this"Yes this could be just what is needed in order to bring everything together as we were discussing in this thread This should really make handheld's much more desirable. Right now, having to use flash memory for storage is kind of a hassle and a bit expensive, especially if you use a lot of it. I can see things really taking off within the next year as result of this(or at least this making a huge contribution to it)"which if going to the thread that was linked lead to this "Poert, I think the size isn't really an issue, as many people use a headset for their phones now anyway. I'd just assume the "all in one" device would have a phone built in, but have it so you had to use the headset to use it. You sacrifice the convenience of a small phone, but gain the screen size, and more room for added features." and also this"size isn't a big issue for me, as I already carry a handheld and a phone with me most of the time, so dropping the phone and being left with one device that is the size of the handheld would be just fine with me. I would much rather have the larger screen than the smaller device."By linking this thread to the previous the arguement was open to talk about the myriad of devices that could be attached to devices of this nature. Had the thread remained on topic of HDD only, I would never mentioned anything about PDA/ tooth brushes/xylophones .i am sorry that you can't follow links, I will attempt to post a large sign infront of any post i have that may not be obvouis to most, to prevent future misunderstandings. If that is not enough, i will gladly go through each step of logic of A=B B=C C=D and therefore A=D instead of just throwing D out there. You will need to let me know if that is required however, as i will not assume it.
agrav8r said:
[quote][i]Originally posted by poertner_1274 [/i]I don't see where I even mentioned hundreds of years from now?!?!? I simply said that the future is where the technology is, not the present. And I don't think it is that far fetched to think about multifuntion devices, realistic ones by all means. We aren't talking about the same BS you are. And don't get me wrong, I thought we were discussing the topic, and where the future was heading, by all means [b]NEAR[/b] future. There is no way anyone can predict what will happen hundreds of years from now, only across the close horizon. And just because I am looking ahead trying to create a little more debate and thoughts among the rest of us. But aparently that isn't what I'm supposed to do.....I'm sorry to the rest of you :rolleyes: [/quote] While I will agree that your post never mentioned 100years (exageration was for humor only) it might have done just that. All my posts have (minus the humor) have been about how multiple devices on one item currently and, as far as i can see, the near future (read 6 months) are functionally ill designed. 1, 5 ,and 10 years in technology fields are similar to dog years and you can't even fathom what is around the corner.I believe we have the ablity to design a wonderful, useful and practical all in one device. we have the technology. what we don't have are companies that care. It would require engineering it from the view of functionality and not cost and profitablity. This is the same reason we do not have flying cars. It is possible, but the system changes, designs, and money would not ensure a immediate profit. Profit is everything, and being the cynic that I am, I attempt to point it out with humor. Maybe understanding this would make my points a little clearer on the reread. or not. At any rate, adding a hard drive that could break is not a step to multiple items on one device, but a bling for the technophiles and name recognition. Ideally blue light mini-Cds could store the same amount of data and be shock proof, but that does sound a cool as a nickel sized hard drive.:blackeye:
Rick said:
Whoa.. You guys just turned an interesting discussion into a blood bath.Chill out and spread some holiday cheer, guys!
agrav8r said:
[quote][i]Originally posted by Rick [/i]Whoa.. You guys just turned an interesting discussion into a blood bath.Chill out and spread some holiday cheer, guys! [/quote] [url]http://www.funkypages.com/evilsanta/index.php[/url]
Rick said:
[quote][i]Originally posted by SNGX1275 [/i]I think you are a bit out of line here, I re-read all of Stormbringer's posts in this thread, and all he mentioned were that this could make hand-helds more desirable, and making them more shock proof. Then out of no where you started talking about toilet paper, what caused that? You also then continued to expand your outrageous list of non tech related items in subsequent posts, again for no apparent reason.I think pretty much the point he and I made is how this can help combine existing technologies, espically if they can shockproof the drives. [/quote] Agreed. Storm has had a very good point all the while. Not sure I follow the "other guys" though. ;)
poertner_1274 said:
Back to the topic on hand with the worlds smallest hard drive....I still think it will require quite a bit more work than what has been put into it already, assuming they have dealt with the shock factor. This thing is going to be a great advance, but I still think that solid state drives are the choice for the future, especially if it is going to be used in a device that gets moved around a lot.
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