AMD FX-60 or AMD Athlon X2 4800+??

By texasbobby
Jan 14, 2006
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  1. Just about to order the heart of my new dream rig from Newegg and have a real dilema....the excellent 4800+ for $800 or the new FX-60 for $1400? Love the FX line for gaming, but is the new CPU THAT MUCH BETTER performance wise that it's worth the extra $600?

    I'll be using the rig for high end gaming primarily and will be using the new ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe mobo, 2 MG of Corsair XMS 3500LL PRO RAM, 2 X 74GB Raptors in a RAID O array, a Koolance XEOS -2 water cooling set up and running 2 BFG 7800GTX 256MB water cooled cards in an SLI configuration.

    Which way would you go and why (so I can learn!)??

    Thanks very much!

    Texasbobby
  2. vnf4ultra

    vnf4ultra TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,195

  3. spartanslayer

    spartanslayer Newcomer, in training Posts: 464

    Go read the review at Tomshardware.com. They say that the 4800 is almost as powerful. The FX60 is way over prices. If I had the money, I would get the FX57. It's more powerful if your gaming then either of those. But the 4800 is a much better deal than the FX60. Good luck. Also, get the 512MB GTX cards. They are better.
  4. LipsOfVenom

    LipsOfVenom Newcomer, in training Posts: 256

    yes they cost more than they should, but it's the price we pay for having the best gear isn't it? anyways, the 60's are very fast; I just built 1 for my engineering class, and it just blows me away. 2 Ghz front bus, 2.6 Ghz stock clocking...just...damn!!! hehehe

    People didn't like opterons since they aren't made for gaming, but in these new CPU's you have 2 cores that were designed with the gamer in mind!! best of both worlds...and you can bet that games this year will make use of the Dual Core Processors......but alas, the choice is up to you....decisions, decisions....
  5. iNoob

    iNoob Newcomer, in training Posts: 91

    That is one freakin' expensive rig. Still, if i were you i'd get the 4800+ simply because its 600 BUCKS LESS!!! And like vnf4ultra said, the 4800+ is almost up to par with the fx-60, so why not save the $600 for a future upgrade...or if you're itching to get the best, spend the $600 changing the 2x7800 256MB's to 2x7800 512MB's.

    But yes...in the end, the choice IS up to you...
  6. compres

    compres Newcomer, in training Posts: 49

    I would go with the 4800 x2 and get 600 worth of software/games, but just the FX name would get me tempted.
  7. Need_a_Dell

    Need_a_Dell Newcomer, in training Posts: 60

    The FX line is completely geared towards gaming, which is totally a plus for your rig. But the X2 is a "true" dual core chip, which could have more potential in the future as far as apps, games, and OSes go. That is a HUGE price difference there. Personally, I would save the money and go for the excellent X2 chip. It's dual core processor will be unparalleled for a while to come. The FX-60 is just a higher clocked version of it's previous FX models. Go for the X2.
  8. spartanslayer

    spartanslayer Newcomer, in training Posts: 464

  9. LipsOfVenom

    LipsOfVenom Newcomer, in training Posts: 256

    the FX60 is a true dual core also...the rest of the FX line has only 1 physical core and the 60 has 2 physical cores which makes it new and it also explains why it has lower clock frequency than the FX57 (2.6 compared to 2.8 Ghz). Most people are staying away from the dual core since so many benchmarks have shown that single still outperforms them in gaming applications but AMD has created a processor that was made with gaming, not exactly multitasking, in mind, though with the presence of 2 cores, the 60 is still a good candidate for running multiple processes at a time.
  10. texasbobby

    texasbobby Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    If I "OC" the 4800, will I have the same thing as the FX-60?

    If they are the same Dual Core Toledo chip and all other specs appear to be the same, can you simply "OC" the 4800 to the same clock speed as the FX-60 and have the same thing?
  11. compres

    compres Newcomer, in training Posts: 49

    Yes you can overclock the 4800 to FX 60 levels, but you can't overclock the 4800 as much as the FX60. The FX line is made for overclockers.

    Also to the other posters, notice that the previous single core FXs were odd numbers, and the new dual core is an even number.
  12. Mictlantecuhtli

    Mictlantecuhtli TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,916   +9

    Please enlighten this knowledge-challenged individual, tell how CPUs are designed for gamers in mind, and why Opterons aren't.

    I guess you've heard about what kind of storm Socket 939 Opterons raised when overclockers found out that they're cheaper and overclock more than Athlon 64s?
  13. Need_a_Dell

    Need_a_Dell Newcomer, in training Posts: 60

    I apologize! The other processors in the FX line have been single core, so i assumes that it would be the same. That's my bad! My descision still stands though, I would save the dough and go for the X2!
     
  14. flavin

    flavin Newcomer, in training Posts: 110

    OK first off id like to ask if u have lots of money to burn?
    Also i wanted to know if u already have all ur other peices to the comp?

    here is a review from firingsquad.com . http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/amd_athlon_64_fx-60_review/default.asp It is about the fx-60 and does comparisons with the 4800. if u go to the link above and go down to the bottom and select "jump to" on the table on contents and then go to "think about it.." ull see that they suggest not buying this because AMD is going to release a new socket interface this year. so i suggest u go with the 4800+ and the new cpu in the future. unless of course u r mega rich and cost isnt a factor here.

    secondly about ur videos cards. it would be better to go with 2x 7800 gtx 512mb's instead or even one of them over 2 regular 7800's. but then again the new nvidia and ati cards r comming out soon too. i heard february for both but then i found this site about nvidia today. http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=32056 .

    the choice is up to u really about what u want to do. have the best of the best parts now, pay a ton, and then have them be the 2nd best in a few months. Or buy the 2nd best stuff now and upgrade to the best of the best in a few months. either way really ur comp is going to be unstoppable.
  15. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 8,276   +177

    In a few months there will be the Athlon FX-62 to think about. Of course, it's a new socket, M2 or AM2. It will require another motherboard and DDR2 memory. I'm kind of looking at that one myself.
  16. spartanslayer

    spartanslayer Newcomer, in training Posts: 464

    Yeah, I'm about to build a system, and an not sure if I should wait for M2. I really want the new system by may, and hopefully M2 will come out before then.
  17. texasbobby

    texasbobby Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    How long do you wait???

    At some point, you just need to "pull the trigger" and buy what you want. With all the new stuff "in the pipeline" you could wait forever on the "next big thing" and never build a rig.

    Face it.....whatever you build, no matter how new or expensive it is at the time, it's already "behind the curve" based on new stuff that's "just about to be released".

    You could wait forever on "the hot, new stuff".......gotta stick your toe in the water sometime!

    It is a problem, eh?

    Best of luck,

    Texasbobby
  18. spartanslayer

    spartanslayer Newcomer, in training Posts: 464

    Yeah, but is it worth waiting for the DDR2 AMD Ram? I think it is. That's the main reason I'm waiting.
  19. computer help

    computer help Newcomer, in training Posts: 86

    seems like alot of specualtion here

    well i am running and amd 4200 x2
    and im verry happy it gives you a complete gaming edge
    you join the game first regrdless of you ping
    hahaha

    some sound advice you must install the amd cpu driver for wich ever one you get or your games will run like rubbish :>

    make sure you install the cpu driver from amd !!!
  20. computer help

    computer help Newcomer, in training Posts: 86

    and by the way

    there is absoluteley no need to oc one of these and if you do you are a nutcase !
  21. kaymastah

    kaymastah Newcomer, in training Posts: 63

    another point of view

    Here's something you might want to think about. The marketing guys all over the world practice a money sucking technique, which I like to call "cream collecting". The idea is simple: when releasing a new product, set the price at a much higher than reasonable level. when all the ones with enough money/need/desperation (the cream) spend their bucks on it, lower the price to the level that's acceptable to general buyer.

    This is precisely why I wait at the very least 3 months before I decide to spend my hard earned bucks on a new toy.

    [sigh] wish I had this kind of problem... man...
  22. computer help

    computer help Newcomer, in training Posts: 86

    maybe so

    well thats one opinion thats like saying
    there is no point in ever buying anything new
    bahahahah...
    and by the way x2 arent new the technoliges is old now
    maybe read what i wrote properley !!! :haha:
  23. kaymastah

    kaymastah Newcomer, in training Posts: 63

    All righty smarty pants... I have read what you've written properly (notice the lack of "e" between "l" and "y") and I have some questions for you:

    1. How old precisely is this new "technoligy" ?
    2. Have you heard of a concept called relativity?

    If the answer to the latter is yes, then is it fair to say, that one might have a different opinion on what is new and what is old? Also, if say one decides to buy a 6 month old product, while there's still a large amount of market (say 50%) that's using technology 3 or 4 years older, doesn't it make it relatively new when compared to this "piece of market" ?
  24. compres

    compres Newcomer, in training Posts: 49

    I dont think it's worth to wait for new AMD CPUs only for the DDR2, becouse current Athlons seem to benefit more from low latency rather than big bandwidth. Last I heard the basic architecture is not changing and DDR2 gives you more bandwidth but worse latency.
  25. flavin

    flavin Newcomer, in training Posts: 110

    yea that is so true. and there always is newer stuff being made before the new stuff that hasnt even been released yet is out. but still wouldnt u be a little mad if u just bought a really expensive part and then the day u get it an even better part gets released for cheaper?

    i wasnt sayin wait forever i was just saying atleast 2-3 weeks to see what happens with ati or nvidia. the new ATI is actually suppose to be out before the end of January. but i dont really know about nvidia.

    no matter what u decide to do with the set up u have ur comp will be great
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