AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT Review: Old Performance, New Price Point

[Steve]

Given that the Radeon 7800 XT mirrors the 6800 XT's performance, it's not particularly thrilling, especially after 3 years. But at just $500, the 7800 XT will likely become the go-to option for many.

Read the full article here.

https://www.techspot.com/review/2734-amd-radeon-7800-xt/

 

[oasked]

No score this time?!
(given the controversy over scoring in other reviews, I'm not surprised)

I'm surprised to see almost no performance uplift over the previous generation, but at the price - it's not a bad deal at all if you don't already have RDNA2

 

[neeyik]

GPU specs for the review cards:

 

[R00sT3R]

Sigh.

What a steaming pile of hot garbage the GPU market has become.

 

[BrwPCnrd87]

Yet another GPU launch that makes me glad I bought a 6950 XT 9 month ago.

 

[llamapanda]

And just like that I feel vindicated for my impulse-buying of a 6800XT in a recent sale.

 

[Puiu]

A slightly better 6800xt. It only looks good because of how badly Nvidia GPUs are priced.

As I see it, the price is ok when looking at RT performance. It fits squarely between the 4070 and 4060ti.

 

[VcoreLeone]

Meh, same performance as 3080 and 6800xt, and no new features that those two won't have. really not impressed with 1 fps difference over 6800xt.
you could say the price saves it, but 6800xt sells 50eur cheaper atm. would not pay 50 eur for 1fps. Both come with starfield too.

 

[hahahanoobs]

If AMD was part of a UFC event, it would be the prelims. You might get a good fight once in a while, but that's not what you pay full price for.

 

[VcoreLeone]

If you swapped someone's 6800xt for it, they'd never notice. Meanwhile, 3080 to 4080 was 1.5x rasterized and 1.7x in rt, despite degrading 102 die to 103. sad times. everything that is a meaningful upgrade over last gen costs almost literally twice. Keeping the 3080 and the 6800. Let me know when 4070ti is 550 and 7900xt is 600, I might get both of them used.

 

[Nobina]

So they took last-gen RX 6800 XT and put "7" instead of "6". Nvidia did the same with RTX 4060 Ti. The absolute state of PC gaming...

 

[WhiteLeaff]

There are some errors in the article, for example there it says that the 7800XT was faster than the 4080 instead of the 4070.

Overuse of the word "commendable" is not a mistake, but for grouchy people like me, it can be irritating.

 

[Biostud]

Yet another GPU launch that makes me glad I bought a 6950 XT 9 month ago.

Yup, not regretting buying a 6800xt in January either.

 

[EdmondRC]

When you factor in inflation and the fact that this GPU is really closer to the 6700 XT than the 6800 XT in terms of die size and launch price. I think AMD has actually offered relatively good value here. But, as is pointed out, it's not amazing given the prices you can get RDNA2 at the moment and the small overall upgrade to GPUs that have been available near this price point for months now. That being said, if I was building a new system right now, I think this card would be my first choice, it's definitely bang-for-buck winner in the current market.

 

[HardReset]

So despite being on same level as 6800XT, 7800XT gets score of 90/100 because "it offers best value vs price".

And then 6500XT got 20/100 because it "offered best value vs price".

Just admit it, I was right all the time :middlefinger:

 

[NightAntilli]

Can't help but think that if this exact same card was an nVidia card, everyone in the comments would be drooling over it instead of expressing disappointment.

 

[EdmondRC]

Can't help but think that if this exact same card was an nVidia card, everyone in the comments would be drooling over it instead of expressing disappointment.

Nvidia pretty much did the same thing with the 4070 (except it was only a $100 less than previous gen for the same performance instead of $150 less than previous gen for the same performance). Techspot gave it the same score, a 90, but the 4070 was not received very well by the consumer. That remains to be seen for the 7800 XT, but I think it will do well. However, in hindsight, the 4070 should have gotten more like an 80 if you are directly comparing this review to that review. The 7800 XT at least outperforms the 6800 XT in most scenarios and costs significantly less. The 3080 is still better than the 4070 by 3-5% margin.

 

[VcoreLeone]

Nvidia pretty much did the same thing with the 4070 (except it was only a $100 less than previous gen for the same performance instead of $150 less than previous gen for the same performance). Techspot gave it the same score, a 90, but the 4070 was not received very well by the consumer. That remains to be seen for the 7800 XT, but I think it will do well. However, in hindsight, the 4070 should have gotten more like an 80 if you are directly comparing this review to that review. The 7800 XT at least outperforms the 6800 XT in most scenarios and costs significantly less. The 3080 is still better than the 4070 by 3-5% margin.

None actually move the price/perf that was already available before their launch even a quarter of an inch.7800xt starts at 2690 here (pulse dual fan), when 6800xt phantom (triple fan) is 2474. 7800xt needs another 40eur down to be par with 6800xt.

 

[EdmondRC]

Sigh.

What a steaming pile of hot garbage the GPU market has become.

AMD's biggest mistake this generation was branding and pricing. Everyone would have looked at it differently if:

7900 XTX >> 7900 XT ($1000) - no price increase, 40% more performance
7900 XT >> 7800 XT ($700) - what were you thinking with $900 AMD?
7800 XT >> 7700 XT ($500) - only $20 price increase, 43% more performance
7700 XT >> 7600 XT ($400) - This would be top seller, $20 more, 35% more performance, more VRAM

This line up would have changed everyone's perspective. AMD would look like it was giving you real generational performance increases. The line up would make a lot more sense.

Putting aside everything else, the 7800 XT is generationally the 6700 XT successor, its only $20 more and delivers 43% more performance. If it wasn't for overabundance of 6000 series stock, AMD likely would have gone closer to this than what they ended up with. However, with the stock, they had to inflate the 7900 XT (hence name).

 

[EdmondRC]

None actually move the price/perf that was already available before their launch even a quarter of an inch.7800xt starts at 2690 here (pulse dual fan), when 6800xt phantom (triple fan) is 2474. 7800xt needs another 40eur down to be par with 6800xt.

Yes, AMD pumped out too many 6000 series and they have flooded the market place. I'm speaking in relative terms. The 6700 XT launch MSRP was $479, the 6800 XT was $649. The 7900 XT should have been the 7800 XT, but was given that designation to sell it for more and keep 6000 series prices elevated until to stock was reduced. AMDs plan is sort of working. It needed to sell those 6000 series cards, but if they were not available, the 7800 XT at $500 would look amazing, but probably would be a 7700 XT.

 

[VcoreLeone]

Yes, AMD pumped out too many 6000 series and they have flooded the market place.

and I thank them for it, got a 400eur 6800 fighter.rdna2 was a once in a cycle moment, navi21 cards were the r9 290s of rdna series.I had 7870ghz ed and r9 290, liked them, but after that amd stopped making progress with gcn while nvidia hammered them with powerful and efficient maxwell/pascal. gonna be the same now with ada/blackwell vs rdna3/4. difference being nvidia got super greedy even for their standards, while amd still tries to rip us off just a little less to stay relevant. Architecturally, they're a gen or two behind ada already.
These 7800xt/7700xt cards might have not existed and we wouldn't notice, 6800 is still a better buy than 7700xt with 16g vram and same price/perf, in euros at least.
update: I actually checked what the 7700xt retails at on launch, this is ridiculous.my 6800 cost 400eur in april, 7700xt starts at 500eur on launch, not joking.
not a sinlge person who bought rx6000 series this year will regret it. most will breathe a sigh of relief for not getting their hopes up.

So despite being on same level as 6800XT, 7800XT gets score of 90/100 because "it offers best value vs price".

And then 6500XT got 20/100 because it "offered best value vs price".

Just admit it, I was right all the time :middlefinger:

6500xt ran worse than rx480 half the time if you were on pcie 3.0. an entry level card that required pcie4, really dumb. not enough vram for 1080p even.

 

[Khamul]

Wow a 90?! I was thinking 70 at best from these green guys.

 

[NightAntilli]

Nvidia pretty much did the same thing with the 4070 (except it was only a $100 less than previous gen for the same performance instead of $150 less than previous gen for the same performance). Techspot gave it the same score, a 90, but the 4070 was not received very well by the consumer. That remains to be seen for the 7800 XT, but I think it will do well. However, in hindsight, the 4070 should have gotten more like an 80 if you are directly comparing this review to that review. The 7800 XT at least outperforms the 6800 XT in most scenarios and costs significantly less. The 3080 is still better than the 4070 by 3-5% margin.

I don't think it's the same thing. What do you see here:

970 ($329) -> 1070 ($379) +47% performance, +15% price
1070 ($379) -> 2070 ($499) +34% performance, +32% price
2070 ($499) -> 3070 ($499) +53% performance, +0% price
3070 ($499) -> 4070 ($599) +22% performance, +20% price

R9 390 ($329)-> RX Vega 56 ($399) +59% performance, +21% price
RX Vega 56 ($399) -> RX 5700XT ($399) +26% performance, +0% price
RX 5700XT ($399) -> RX 6700XT ($479) +35% performance, +20% price
RX 6700XT ($479) -> RX 7700XT ($449) +27% performance, -6% price

And this is the "crappy" 7700XT, instead of the better value 7800XT.

 

[scavengerspc]

Every time Nvidia gives us something to laugh at, AMD comes along and makes us laugh so hard we fall on the floor.

At least it costs less so, Yawn!

 

[Neutronman]

Interesting stuff.
A couple of weeks ago I sprung for an upgrade on my 6700XT by buying a cheap (LOL) 6950XT $579 (plus free Starfield. Unfortunately I have not enjoyed the experience, my office feels like it has an extra space heater in it and the XFX Merc sounds like a 747 on runway. At default the card reaches108C hotspot. I truly expected more from XFX. Fast forward today, the card is going back to Amazon as faulty, I really don't think 108C is acceptable at 100% fan. I decided to grab a Powercolor Hellhound 7800XT instead. Yes, less performance than the 6950XT, but not by much and I should have a quieter and cooler office. Plus another free copy of Starfield!