Apple wins patent case that could affect future Samsung devices

By midian182
Sep 18, 2015
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  1. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit ruled on Thursday that Apple should have been awarded an injunction barring Samsung from selling products that infringe on the iPhone maker’s patents.

    In May 2014, a lower court denied Apple an injunction against Samsung after a jury ordered the South Korean company to pay $120 million for violating patents for the iPhone’s slide-to-unlock, autocorrect and data detection features. The Washington-based appeals court reversed this decision in a 2-1 ruling. It said that Apple’s proposed injunction is narrow because it does not want to ban the devices from the marketplace and that the patented features can be removed without a product recall.

    "Apple does not seek to enjoin the sale of lifesaving drugs, but to prevent Samsung from profiting from the unauthorized use of infringing features in its cellphones and tablets," the court said. The case was sent back to a federal district court in San Jose, California, to reconsider the injunction.

    It does seem that Apple’s win may be largely symbolic; Samsung told the court it had ceased selling nearly all of the products that were originally at issue in the case such as the Galaxy S2 and Note 2. It also said it could design around the features, meaning the ruling is unlikely to have much of an impact on Samsung’s business.

    “We will pursue our rights to have the full Court of Appeals review today’s decision. We want to reassure our millions of loyal customers that all of our flagship smartphones, which are wanted and loved by American consumers, will remain for sale and available for customer service support in the US,” Samsung said in a statement.

    Samsung had received the backing of some of Silicon Valley’s biggest players, including Facebook, Google, Dell and HP, in its patent infringements battle with Apple. The companies worry that the final outcome of the case could have far-reaching implications when it comes to patent violations in complex devices such as smartphones. It’s also thought that Apple could use an injunction on newer Samsung devices if they believe them to infringe on the patents at issue.

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  2. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 8,430   +2,822

    I still think this bickering between them is childish. It is my opinion that they both have earned the right to use whatever features they want in a cell phone. These suits should be kicked out the day they are filed regardless of what they are. These phones are based on two completely different OS ecosystems, they both have their group of followers. Nobody cares about anything else?
  3. noel24

    noel24 TS Maniac Posts: 299   +152

    Apple prices start to crawl into $1K, while Chinese Android devices with Galaxy S3-S5-ish performance and specs can be found off-contract for under $200 outside US. It will end-up with Apple monopoly in US, with prices starting with $1K, and rest of the World powered by Chinese Android, with similar usability, starting at $100. And that's generally a good thing. More equal distribution of wealth.
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2015
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  4. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 6,341   +1,939

    My sentiments exactly.
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  5. RustyTech

    RustyTech TS Guru Posts: 819   +385

    Yes, very well said.
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  6. MonsterZero

    MonsterZero TS Addict Posts: 202   +64

    I guess someone has to help pay for that ridiculous campus they are building.
  7. DaveBG

    DaveBG TS Addict Posts: 217   +72

    That is why I hate apple as a company. They will do everything to stop innovation so that they can earn more.
  8. Horsefeathers

    Horsefeathers TS Rookie

    Absolutely agree-love the products, HATE dealing with the company. Guess I'll have to register my complaint at the Genius Bar...
  9. mosu

    mosu TS Guru Posts: 416   +43

    "It does seem that Apple’s win may be largely symbolic; Samsung told the court it had ceased selling nearly all of the products that were originally at issue in the case such as the Galaxy S2 and Note 2. It also said it could design around the features, meaning the ruling is unlikely to have much of an impact on Samsung’s business."
    Misleading title, any effect on future products.
    cliffordcooley likes this.
  10. Peter Farkas

    Peter Farkas TS Addict Posts: 214   +67

    Totally agree mate. Shameful that the leader of the mobile device market is so greedy. Shameful.

    I am switching over to Windows 10 mobile as soon as it is released. I had enough of Apple. Love the products but unfortunately I have experienced some ridiculous things in their products that cost me hundreds of dollars and loads of wasted time.
  11. Timonius

    Timonius TS Evangelist Posts: 638   +56

    I think part of the problem here is also contract pricing artificially driving up the price on these devices. It's kind of like insurance. If you use insurance, the bill to the insurance company is usually higher than if you paid without insurance.
  12. mdk2k4

    mdk2k4 TS Rookie

    Apple suing Samsung, but who sues apple from stealing from CYDIA and all the hackers and programers all the features they stole from them and Apple now calls them innovations; all updates from all IOS are stolen from Cydia, and besides apple hires all hackers from the jailbreaking community. Apple is full of it, their devices are way over priced, just look up the parts over at amazon and you can put together an iphone for less than $150 and that is retail price. I could go on for days on telling about apple, I call it CrApple. and by the way I own an iPhone and fix them for a living. only reason I use apple I get it for free a gift from costumers.
  13. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 8,430   +2,822

    If you look at insurance being an issue. Then you have to ask what is wrong with Apple products requiring the use of insurance more frequently than any other phone. If insurance is a driving force in the iPhone having higher prices, that is a negative statement to the quality of an iPhone. That's negative PR no Apple user wants to acknowledge much less read about. To be honest I'm not an Apple user and I still don't want to believe that is the case.
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  14. Bob Li

    Bob Li TS Rookie

    I don't know about you, but I don't call patent infringement "innovation".
  15. Bob Li

    Bob Li TS Rookie

    no one... the devs of cydia tweaks generally don't patent the feature so they don't really have the right to sue apple...

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