Athlon 64 3800+ Venice, or 3700+ San Diego?

[KingCody]

pretty soon you'll be water-cooling

 

[wolfram]

But its too expensive (at least for me), as I don't work yet (16 years old). Maybe in the long, and very distant future, I'll get it

 

[KingCody]

expensive?... that all depends...

if you buy a prebuilt (usually overpriced and/or cheap quality)... then yes, it's expensive.

but if you can handle drilling a few holes, then you can build a simple water cooling setup for very little money.

I make them a bit nicer now (more $$$), but the first water cooler I built (about 7-8 years ago) I made with a $4 electrical box, a $6 pump, a $11 radiator, generic 3/8" tubing $5, and a homemade waterblock ($0). altogether it came to $36 if I remember correctly (price also includes misc. additional hardware/fittings). if you're not "handy" enough to make your own waterblock then expect to pay $20 for a cheap one (that will still work fine BTW)

when you feel daring enough to build a water cooler, let me know. I'll be glad to help

 

[SNGX1275]

Tbird's have a max operating temp of 95°C. so your 50°C-ish temps were simply normal operating temp (nothing even close to dangerous temps).

venice cores on the other hand have a max operating temp of 65°C. (50°'s are a bit high, but still a safe temp for a loaded system)

Thought someone might point that out. I probably shouldn't have used that example, but it was the only one I have expierence with for a long period of time.

My real point was that as long as you are running under the max temp for the processor you are fine. Dropping 10C may add some life to the processor, but I bet 99% of the people would have already replaced it with something much newer.

 

[an0nym0us]

omgz you got a biostar, dude you need to push that FSB through the roof. those are great OC boards.

 

[wolfram]

expensive?... that all depends...

if you buy a prebuilt (usually overpriced and/or cheap quality)... then yes, it's expensive.

but if you can handle drilling a few holes, then you can build a simple water cooling setup for very little money.

I make them a bit nicer now (more $$$), but the first water cooler I built (about 7-8 years ago) I made with a $4 electrical box, a $6 pump, a $11 radiator, generic 3/8" tubing $5, and a homemade waterblock ($0). altogether it came to $36 if I remember correctly (price also includes misc. additional hardware/fittings). if you're not "handy" enough to make your own waterblock then expect to pay $20 for a cheap one (that will still work fine BTW)

when you feel daring enough to build a water cooler, let me know. I'll be glad to help

Thanks mate! Maybe someday I'll watercool. Maybe next summer :hotbounce . In the meantime, I had to spend several $$$ on a X850XTPE, and finally, a Rumblepad 2, that's why I can't watercool now

omgz you got a biostar, dude you need to push that FSB through the roof. those are great OC boards.

Yes, this board has great overclocking features. I love my free "CPU upgrade". This board is fast, small, and completely stable. I really love it, and I fully recommend these T-Force mobo's