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ATI AIW 9700 Pro on Abit NF7-S 2.0

By ace960
May 26, 2004
  1. Hello, I used ATI AIW 9700 Pro on my system without any problem (AGP8x, FW ON). I had corrupted BIOS on my MB and I got it replaced. I had origonally Abit NF7-S 1.2. Now I have the same board rev. 2.0. I cannot start the system since the MB replacement.

    The system does not start with this VGA. When I power it on then the VGA fan is running, the CPU fan starts and stops immediately, HD does not start. There is nothing on the screen. When I disconect the extra power cable then it starts and says that I should connect it.

    Another VGA (GF4) works ok on this system. The ATI one works ok on other systems (300 and 350 W PS - no name, it also works on 350 W Fortron one).

    My system specs:
    - AXP1700@2200 MHz (10x220 synchro) @1.75V, Zalman CNPS6000-Cu@1800 RPM, 1 GB Dual Twinmos PC3200 (11-2-3-2.5)
    - MSI GF4 Ti4200-8xVTD128 MB 250/512@300/600; NEC MultiSync LCD1760NX
    - Hitachi 7K250 160 GB SATA (HDS722516VLSA80); Teac W552E, firmware 1.09
    - Abit NF7-S 2.0, bios D23-3D-4247; Enermax EG365P-VE (350 W); CHIEFTEC DX-01SLD; Microsoft Wireless Optical Mouse 2.0

    OC-ing does not make difference.
    AGP voltage increase does not help.
    AGP8x->4x does not help.
    MB runs on the latest bios (24).
    When I connect MB and VGA only (no peripherals) then it did not start.
    I tested the power cable on floppy drive and the drive works ok.

    Power Supply info from the box and from the BIOS screen:
    +3.3V - 32A
    +5V - 32A
    +12V - 26A
    -5V - 1A
    -12V - 1A
    +5VSb - 2.2A
    +3.3V&5V - 185W
    TOTAL POWER - 350W

    Vcore 1,52
    Vcc 2,66
    Vio 3,38
    +5V 5,00
    +12V 11,92
    -12V -12,19
    -5V -5,29
    Vsb 5,02
    3.3V Dual 3,52

    Please help.
     
  2. Nic

    Nic TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,928

    I had the same problems with the same hardware.

    Radeon AIW 9700 Pro - DOA

    Here is a quote from some info I posted in that link ...

     
  3. ace960

    ace960 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Thank you for the reply. I am really angry about this. I was searching internet last 3 days to find something and this forum was the last and probably the best information I found.

    This is really mess. I don't know who to blame first. The most intersting point for my system is that it WORKED with rev 1.2 but it doesn't with 2.0!

    How did YOU solve it?

    1) The AIW card is not mine - I am just testing it before I go for some upgrade. I wanted to know if it is worth to upgrade from GF4.
    2) I just swapped it from 1.2 to 2.0 - they're not gonna to replace it again
    3) I want those protection
    4)-5) - that's interestning but I am not so skilled to do this.

    ==
    So it seems that it is related to AIW (or ATI) only. I hope that if I take 6800NU that it will work. What do you think?
     
  4. Arris

    Arris TS Evangelist Posts: 4,599   +110

    I was running an Abit NF7-S v2.0 with a Sapphire 9700 Pro and 350w Enermax PSU. I had no such problems. I did have problems with the system when overclocking an 2100+ Tbred B CPU. I then upgraded to an Antec 550w TruePower PSU and the overclock instabilities went away. Just to let you know that it shouldn't be a problem with all cards. Also try a connection straight from the PSU if you can rather than one shared with connections to other devices.
     
  5. ace960

    ace960 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    I believe that the problem is not present on all cards. It seems it is related to some batch of the cards. I did what you recommend - it did not help.
     
  6. Arris

    Arris TS Evangelist Posts: 4,599   +110

    I also had a Sapphire 9800 running on that board without problem (which got the same 3dmark03 score as the 9700 Pro). If the problem is a batch of cards its most likely an older batch. So if this card isn't yours then you should be safe to buy a new ATI card.
     
  7. ace960

    ace960 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    I just test this with noname PS at 300 and 350 W. It works OK. So if you want to run this piece of expensive hardware you should buy noname PS - this is really bad. ATI will not run in my system. I don't care if it was older batch or if it is not mine. This is OTT (my English teacher says that OTT = Over the Top).
     
  8. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,384   +15

    That card would be highly worthy over a GF4, highly.
     
  9. ace960

    ace960 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    ---agissi---:
    That's your opinion. You have partial true. That card is just piece of hardware I cannot normally use. That's all (and nothing more). I am not blind nvidia hw buyer but these things made me jump. But this is not subject of this thread.

    ==
    I've got some notes for peoplee with this problem:
    1. The first system power on always works. I mean when I shutdown PC, power off the PS switch, remove the cable, remove GF4 from the system, insert the ATI AIW, switch on the PS and power on the system then it works.
    2. When you use this first power on system method then it is not all won. When you try to save some bios changes it fails, it shut downs the system and you cannot power it on again. You ghave to replace the VGA and then you can see the ABit message about saving BIOS (yeah, really "funny").

    ==
    My last test would be to test another VGA card with external power connector (GF FX5900SP). If this works I will be satisfied.

    EDIT: GF FX5900SP works ok.
     
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