crappy new nvidia drivers?

[Rory7]

I downloaded the new nvidia drivers from the site for my fx 5200, to put it simply, they were crap. After installing them (they were definately the relevent drivers) my games, which worked faultlessly beforehand started jumping like hell and the screen flickered ect. So i just installed an older driver, which is a bit poo, but does the job, do any of you lot know why this happened? I might of read somthing on it that said the new driver used program patterns or somthing to make it perfom better, could this of altered my gaming quality?

 

[agissi]

Are you positive you downloaded the latest ones? Did you get them off nvidia.com? Always get your nvidia drivers off nvidia.com to insure your getting what you want.

 

[xtrmn8r]

i downloaded the 52.16 drivers, and the mian problem i have is SOF2 doesnt work. It will run for about 30 secs when u get into the actual gaming screen, then it totally hangs my computer, so i cant even ctrl-alt-delete out of it. but this has only happened to the one game, the rest are fine! bizarre.

i think ill go back to the previous drivers, ive only got a ti4600 so dx9 support doesnt bother me in the slightest.

 

[Rory7]

yeah i got them of nvidia.com, made sure they were the xp/2000 ones to. It seems theyve been fine with everyone else, weird

 

[wicka_wicka]

Originally posted by xtrmn8r
i downloaded the 52.16 drivers, and the mian problem i have is SOF2 doesnt work. It will run for about 30 secs when u get into the actual gaming screen, then it totally hangs my computer, so i cant even ctrl-alt-delete out of it. but this has only happened to the one game, the rest are fine! bizarre.

i think ill go back to the previous drivers, ive only got a ti4600 so dx9 support doesnt bother me in the slightest.

Same thing happened with me on ET with the 52.16's. Grab a version of the Detanators; I use the 40.72's. The new Forceware drivers are horrible.

 

[Supra]

What brand fx 5200 do you have? Your better off going directly to your card manufactures website to get the correct drivers. They usually have custom made version designed to work with your card and exploit all the features of that card. Nvidia's drivers at www.nvidia.com are a meant to work with all nvidia chipset cards but they are not gauranteed to do so.

 

[xtrmn8r]

just a quick update on this....

i went back to the old drivers, and doing benchmarks using 3dmark03 i actually got better results with the older detonator drivers. i think ill wait until the next revision of the forceware drivers comes out before i change again.

 

[vassil3427]

I also have a Ti4600 and with the new drivers BF1942 was all messed up, textures dissappear, I can see through wall's, It was kind of useful...but really annoying....I switched back to an older version of the detonators and everything seems fine....

 

[Steg]

getting higher scores in 3dmark03 in the 45 detonators i probebly due to some cheats or other in other drivers

i have a friend who has a Leadtek 5600 256 and with the Forceware 52.16 he image quality goes totally **** according to him.....always buy reference cards - that way they always work with offical nvidia drivers - looks like u just have to use manufactors drivers

Steg

 

[wicka_wicka]

It's just that the Forcewares are horrible drivers...that's all. It's funny to me how nvidia cards are getting worse than ATi's, and now their drivers suck too!

 

[acidosmosis]

Originally posted by vassil3427
I also have a Ti4600 and with the new drivers BF1942 was all messed up, textures dissappear, I can see through wall's, It was kind of useful...but really annoying....I switched back to an older version of the detonators and everything seems fine....

I had the same problem in BF1942 with the new Nvidia drivers the other day. Some objects would float, some walls were invisible, at one point the ground was invisible in one area, etc.

 

[Rory7]

Nvidia do seem to be getting worse and worse eh, just as ATI seem to be kikin even more anus. Think its better to get a 5700 ultra or the 9600 pro for christmas?

ps. Im also not bothered to much about prices (although im sure my parents might be), since its christmas.

 

[Nic]

nVidias latest nForce drivers v3.13 for winxp are also messed up. Some of your disk tools may no longer be able to access your hard drive with these drivers installed. Seems like nVidia's driver dept is not living up to past standards. Probably because the workforce aren't as happy as they used to be. Check out this link (its an interesting read, so take a look) ...

NFI - Uttar’s Last GPU Editorial pg4 'NVIDIA'

... Huang is Nvidia's amiable patriarch, doling out equal doses of reassuring hugs and tough love. He roams the halls of company headquarters, chatting and laughing with workers, remembering the names of their spouses and asking after their children. But he has little tolerance for screwups. In one legendary meeting, he's said to have ripped into a project team for its tendency to repeat mistakes. "Do you suck?" he asked the stunned employees. "Because if you suck, just get up and say you suck." The message: If you need help, ask for it.

The first sentence cannot be overemphasized: NVIDIA employees do seem to respect good ole Jen Hsun a lot. But from my understanding, the suckage part frightens employees more than anything. The emperor has no clothes, but since he shoots the messenger, nobody’s gonna tell him! They give him the message he wants to hear: “Yes, Jen Hsun, next generation will be even better!”

What better way to operate, then, that to hide your mistakes? I talked of misinformation earlier in the editorial–well, it’s appropriate again, even more than ever. This time, though, it’s internal misinformation. Employees get so fed up they have to tell someone who understands the hypocrisy, but won’t cost them their jobs. Certainly this motivates some of the most reliable sources of the leaks on sites like NFI.

You could alternately compare today’s NVIDIA with the Renaissance Christians, when they refuted many new discoveries, such as Copernicus’. They refuted the truth, probably sometimes for personal gain, but also sometimes simply because they didn’t know what they were talking about, except that saying certain things get them killed. So the true academics learned to distribute their uncensored works underground, to share their discoveries in a manner where church-approval was not required. The parallels here to rumors boards are astounding.

Did you notice we don’t even know ATI’s R420/Loki transistor count yet, even though it seems to have recently taped-out? We knew the NV40’s months ago; seems to me ATI’s employees are much happier than NVIDIA’s.

It can be hard to believe the misinformation customers and employees get is increased by incompetence. Here’s an excellent example, the register usage and FP16 vs FP32 performance problems—time and again noted as the key failure of the NV3X architecture—remains unknown to the NVIDIA PR department responsible for dealing with its ramifications! As late as September 2003, a prominent employee in NVIDIA public relations sincerely claimed to me that FP16 is simply two times as fast as FP32. Problem is, in real games, you’ll have a hard time making it run even 45% faster. With such ridiculously high expectations when it comes to your hardware, it’s not hard to understand why nobody at NVIDIA seems worried—they got the “fastest” card on the market, after all ...