Hi Chaps, Have been looking at a pc for a pal of mine (Packard Bell Pentium 400mhz with 20gb hard drive running Win98SE), that receives the "Disk Boot failure insert system disk and hit enter" message. I checked all the connections and pulled them out and put them back in, but still the same. I checked in the bios and there is nothing recorded, all zeroes. I have tried everything to detect the drive, but no diagnostic disks, Win98se startup disk, or any commands like fdisk /mbr, sys c, scandisk /all etc.. can find anything. I would hazard a guess and say it's done for, but wondered if there was anything else I could do to wake it up. What gives me small doubt that the disk is dead, is that I got hold of a very old Dell 133mhz pc with a 1gb working drive and installed that in the Packard Bell, but got the same disk boot failure message. I tried the dodgy (Fujitsu) 20gb drive in the Dell and got error message "disk controller 1 failure hit F1 to continue, F2 to enter setup". I went into setup and the instructions indicated that IDE drives should be set for "auto" detect. I set all four of them to auto at one point, but still got same message. Just as a last thing, I swapped the cables from the bad machine (Packard Bell) to the good one (Dell) and it booted up okay, with it's original 1gb drive, of course. Thanks for any suggestions.