EU warns US tech firms they could face new laws forcing them to remove hate speech faster

[John Undefined]

That is a complete assumption that I am part of any party.

You do seem to regard one and only one political viewpoint as a "party of hate." And you did not consider any other possibility for how the term "special snowflake" might have originated.

Are you going to start calling me a "libratard" just because I pointed out a party line?

No, for several reasons. Stupidity knows no party. Many of my beliefs (workers rights, safety nets for the downtrodden) fall on the liberal side, so I do not automatically associate liberalism with stupidity. And I am not actually trying to get you to "tune out." Were you planning on calling me a "Repugnantlican"?

Ironic that is the same comment that you spout "you need look no further than your own mirror -- supporting a policy to censor dissent" and then you go on to try to can me into a specific brand and then try to label me with things I've never done. Dam you are some sort of Hypocrite.

It is quite clear what you are calling a "party of hate." The things past "of course there is also..." are not within your mirror. But you seem to be ignoring them in your "party of hate" rhetoric. That you want to censor dissent, which you have indicated through your support for this policy, is sufficient to show that you align yourself with hate. That you are more concerned with words like "special snowflake" than with actual physical violence tells me that you are in no position to talk about a party of hate.

I didn't actually label you with things you have never done. But I will grant the benefit of the doubt and assume that was an honest mistake on your part.

Oh by the way the hypocrisy is in yourself. You object to what you see me as trying to label you with a single brand while this and your comment to the other person indicate that you want to label me with the brand you call "alt right."

 

[Evernessince]

You do seem to regard one and only one political viewpoint as a "party of hate." And you did not consider any other possibility for how the term "special snowflake" might have originated.

So I drew conclusions? Are you going to sit here and tell me that the alt-right isn't a party of hate? If you have evidence otherwise, I would be interested in hearing it.

 

[Nobina]

So I drew conclusions? Are you going to sit here and tell me that the alt-right isn't a party of hate? If you have evidence otherwise, I would be interested in hearing it.

Alt-right doesn't exist.

 

[Evernessince]

Alt-right doesn't exist.

No?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/alternative-right

 

[Nobina]

No?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/alternative-right

It's made up by the left.

 

[John Undefined]

So I drew conclusions? Are you going to sit here and tell me that the alt-right isn't a party of hate? If you have evidence otherwise, I would be interested in hearing it.

Fine you drew conclusions. So did I. You, however, objected to the fact that I drew conclusions. As for the "alt-right," it appears to be nebulous in meaning, shifting to whatever any given speaker wants it to mean. And people will expand and contract it at will. But... insofar as you tried to paint me as part of the "alt-right," I need simply point out that I am not hateful.

There are hateful people out there. Not everyone who uses the term "special snowflake" is hateful. Neither is everyone who uses the term on the right side of the political spectrum

The concept lacks a consensus ideology, and has further been associated with multiple groups from American nationalists, neo-monarchists, far-right leaning men's rights advocates, and people who oppose mainstream conservatism.

That's from your link. It appears even wikipedia recognizes that it is a nebulous term that can mean whatever the speaker wants -- except that it needs to refer to people on the right side of the political spectrum. Indeed, I think it is safe to say that the term is used to dehumanize others while the users of the term claim to be being dehumanized.

 

[davislane1]

No?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/alternative-right

Alt-right is real. Wikipedia is the worst source for info, however.

See
https://infogalactic.com/info/Alt-right for better information.

 

[Evernessince]

Fine you drew conclusions. So did I. You, however, objected to the fact that I drew conclusions. As for the "alt-right," it appears to be nebulous in meaning, shifting to whatever any given speaker wants it to mean. And people will expand and contract it at will. But... insofar as you tried to paint me as part of the "alt-right," I need simply point out that I am not hateful.

There are hateful people out there. Not everyone who uses the term "special snowflake" is hateful. Neither is everyone who uses the term on the right side of the political spectrum



That's from your link. It appears even wikipedia recognizes that it is a nebulous term that can mean whatever the speaker wants -- except that it needs to refer to people on the right side of the political spectrum. Indeed, I think it is safe to say that the term is used to dehumanize others while the users of the term claim to be being dehumanized.

Then don't use one of the alt-right's slogans. There are a million other word combinations you could have used yet you used the exact same combination that I see some of the most hateful commenters on the internet using. You don't pick up a group's banter if you don't somewhat agree with it. You commented negatively here first without being provoked so tell me, if you are not part of the alt-right, why are you criticizing liberals for not having thick skin when you yourself couldn't bear dissention against your own beliefs and absolutely had to post the comment you did? You could have just ignored this article but just like those you criticize for being "special snowflakes", you just have to post. The only difference is that you are fighting for your right to be a ****.

Also, the wikipedia link states "Because of the nebulous nature of anonymous online communities". Your comment that what the alt-right is changes with each speaker is purely incorrect and that is stated nowhere in the article. That was a comment on the nature of online communities, not of what the alt-right's beliefs are, which is clearly stated. You not only took those comments out of content but also paraphrased them to try to provide a better point.

 

[John Undefined]

Then don't use one of the alt-right's slogans. There are a million other word combinations you could have used yet you used the exact same combination that I see some of the most hateful commenters on the internet using.

Try again. In all this time, I have not actually used the "slogan." I have described how I have seen the term used which differs quite a bit from your claims.

You don't pick up a group's banter if you don't somewhat agree with it. You commented negatively here first without being provoked so tell me, if you are not part of the alt-right, why are you criticizing liberals for not having thick skin when you yourself couldn't bear dissention against your own beliefs and absolutely had to post the comment you did?

Well, let's look at my comment then.

This is the same playbook used by totalitarians since time immemorial. They call their targets many things. This time around, they are calling it "hate speech." Well, here's some news for you: Words on a forum page can't actually hurt you. If your ego is so fragile that being called a "special snowflake" sends you into convulsions, then one, the term is accurate, and two, you should probably get off the internet. Some people are going to disagree with you. Some people are going to insult you. I've seen enough of that directed at me. But do you know what? It doesn't cause any bruises. And it doesn't cause me to miss any meals.
But let's face the facts. This isn't about you seeing posts you don't like. This is about wanting to control what other people can see and hear. Brainwashing is a great deal easier if no dissent is permitted to be seen.[/I]

My comment is indeed negative as regards censorship. I am very much opposed to censorship. Is it your belief that anyone who opposes censorship is somehow part of the "alt-right"? I find the support of censorship to be very much a provocation.

I am not criticizing all liberals. I am criticizing those liberals who make a mockery of what liberalism used to stand for by demanding protection from mean words on the internet. People need protection from unsafe working conditions. People need protection from being forced into starvation so that businesses can have their slave labor. Using the banner of liberalism to whine about mean words makes it look like a farce.

You could have just ignored this article but just like those you criticize for being "special snowflakes", you just have to post. The only difference is that you are fighting for your right to be a ****.

No, I am fighting for my right (and yours) to speak my mind. You see, the claim of "hate speech" is only to make the censorship sound more reasonable. The powers-that-be will be quick to decide that all dissent is "hate speech" as are any attempts to argue that something has been improperly classified as such.

Also, the wikipedia link states "Because of the nebulous nature of anonymous online communities". Your comment that what the alt-right is changes with each speaker is purely incorrect and that is stated nowhere in the article. That was a comment on the nature of online communities, not of what the alt-right's beliefs are, which is clearly stated. You not only took those comments out of content but also paraphrased them to try to provide a better point.

My comment that it changes with each speaker is borne from experience including the experience of you trying to label me with the term.

 

[Nobina]

Alt-right is real. Wikipedia is the worst source for info, however.

See
https://infogalactic.com/info/Alt-right for better information.

That's what I'm saying. Everyone has their own version of what alt right is.