captaincranky
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It's getting deep in here:
Facebook no longer removes posts claiming Covid-19 was manufactured
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TheBigFatClown
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Why would I if I've already recovered from the virus? Explain...
The whole point of the "only for emergency use" vaccines that you've, I'm assuming, already been injected with is to stimulate the Guinea pigs....I mean humans own immune system. If the antibodies that are naturally developed as a result of exposure to the real virus aren't sufficient to save ones life than I dont know what the hell is.
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Plutoisaplanet
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I would agree that the definition of a planet is a arbitrary set of conditions (at least as currently defined). However, to clarify on why the formation of a solar system is relevant, the current definition excludes Pluto from being a planet solely because its mass is less than the cumulative mass in the same orbit. This is directly tied to the theory that planets form over time by growing in mass from colliding with objects in its orbit. Since Pluto didn't "gobble up" a majority of the mass in its orbit, it is not considered a planet. Of course this qualifying cause makes no sense if scientists didn't think that was how a planet formed because they consider Pluto a "dwarf" planet and not yet a planet. If over time Pluto did collide with enough objects in its path (or if they were transferred out of Pluto's orbit somehow) then it would be considered a fully formed planet.IMO, your argument about Pluto with respect to this topic is more of a strawman than anything else.
What classifies a planet a planet is a decision made in 2006 by the International Astronomical Union, and, at least as I see it, it could be considered an arbitrary set of conditions that may, indeed, change over time. It has little to do with what is considered the theory of formations of solar systems other than the fact that most solar systems that we know of could arguably be traced to the formation of a star - which is part of current theory of how solar systems form, and the defiintion of a planet includes that it must orbit a star. http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/ph...-the-requirements-for-being-a-planet-beginner Science already suspects that there are rogue planets, I.e., that there are planets that for some reason escaped their host star, and for that matter, it is also suspected that there are rogue stars, too. Then I guess, though, that since both contain the word Rogue in their descriptions that the former is not truly a planet and the latter is not truly a star; both are, rather, escapees.
Nope, it's round! And the word you're looking for is "dwarf".
Squid Surprise
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I don't think you understood what I posted... or you're being deliberately obtuse (I'm leaning that way)... Antibodies do NOT make you immune to every variant of Covid... only the variant you already contracted!!
The vaccines are effective against most of them - and have the ability to be altered to protect against future variants... please try and comprehend what is written...
Funny, I don't see you mentioning the other stuff you spouted... no defense of Barrington? Ivermectin? hmmmm.... want to move a few more goal posts?
AND they can thin your blood AND give you blood clots at the same time! Amazing they are. Really, they are amazing. You have to admit that was amazing.
Squid Surprise
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Astra Zeneca has like a 1 in 70,000 chance of it... which is why most countries have discontinued its use - saying that, it’s still far better odds than what getting Covid would do to you...
Plutoisaplanet
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There isn't any scientific evidence showing that natural immunity doesn't protect against Covid mutations... Only that it doesn't protect against mutations 100% of the time. This is not new information as both natural immunity and vaccine immunity don't protect against the original virus 100% of the time. This is from March and claims that natural immunity often protects from multiple viral shapes, unlike like the vaccines which target only the spike protein: https://www.acsh.org/news/2021/03/19/natural-immunity-or-vaccination-better-15409
captaincranky
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When I was growing up, Pluto was still a planet, and, since I'm old and set in my ways, it shall always remain thus to me.. (No matter what I might say here to stir the pot).
When I heard that it had been declared otherwise, I thought to myself, "so this is how true intellectuals piss away grant money, by sitting around babbling semantic bullsh!t such as, 'when is a planet not a planet'".
captaincranky
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Look, you can't really pass any of this off as fact, at least not with respect to covid. It simply hasn't been around long enough.
There are true, certain viruses that grant lifetime immunity. For example measles, mumps, and chicken pox. But the common cold is also a virus, and we haven't been able to create a cure for that.
What you're claiming is any viral encounter grants life long immunity, which simply isn't true.
The difference between me, you and Mr. Surprise, (I think), is that you both are relentlessly argumentative, erstwhile have a fairly virulent(**) case of antisocial personality.disorder, with some mitigation. (I'm harmlessly and non violently antisocial).
Therefore, while I might try to convince you to get vaccinated, (for sheer sport), at my core, I really don't give a f**k who dies from covid, as long as it's not me.
(**) Notice how cleverly I worked "virus", in adjective form, into the context. .
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Squid Surprise
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Well, that isn’t a peer reviewed report... but... did you read it?
Here’s a snippet...
“For the COVID-19 vaccines, there remain two questions. How long will the immunity last? We don’t know yet, but only time will tell. Again, most vaccines confer equally long-lasting immunity. The two mRNA vaccines are targeted at the spike protein. Natural immunity can target the spike and other viral shapes, which might allow natural immunity to protect against some variants; again, we do not know. What we do know is that getting your immunity by contracting COVID-19 is a crapshoot; being vaccinated is exceedingly efficacious and safe. “
The gist of the entire article also favors getting vaccinated over allowing yourself to catch Covid and gain “natural immunity”.
TheBigFatClown
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Uh right. Question for you there little scientist. If I didn't get a vaccine shot for covid and my body handled it, bestowing upon me natural, to the bone, lifelong immunity. Why would I make the ridiculous assumption it can't handle any weaker mutations?
And my dear junky friend, please stop with "I didn't see you mention x y or z" already. I told you already that I have limited energy. I'm on a cellphone right now bird peckng this response with 1 finger. I only have so much energy. And since I'm completely destroying you on the antibodies argument why would I bring even more points into the conversation? That would be like shooting a dead horse multiple times just for the hell of it. I'm happy to discuss anything you want about vaccines or viruses. But do I have to write a novel in every response?
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TheBigFatClown
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You're the exact kind of vaccine junkie I want on my side. "!@$$ all those antibaxxers. Were safe from them because we've been VAXXED Yippee!!!! They'll all be dead in a year because naturally developed antibodies from contracting covid sucks cow titties. Let them all die".
Yes, please, let covid and it's scary cousins kill me naturally. Keep your needles and your boosters away from all of us dumb bastards. We will be dead soon, you wont. So, in the end game, the VAXXERS win!!!!!
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captaincranky
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I'm not going to touch this beyond congratulating you on your induction into the, "drama queen's hall of fame".
captaincranky
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Won't that be a grand day when Trump reascends his throne, dons his cape and leotards, puts his underpants on over them, shoves a 12" fireworks mortar up his bumm, and sails over Washington DC, in a hail of red, white, and blue sparkles. proclaiming his magnificence to the throngs of peasants below..
Oh who am I kidding, I'd sooner vote for Thanos as emperor
Squid Surprise
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You don’t get lifelong immunity to Covid by getting it! Please provide some evidence for this... you also don’t get lifelong immunity to the various variants.... now you’re just spouting nonsense...
‘’You state you “don’t have the energy” to dispute my comments... you haven’t effectively disputed ANYTHING I’ve stated... just spouted lies and misinformation...
TheBigFatClown
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Why thank you. If you can't have fun when you have to argue this 5hi7 24/7/365 to keep crazy people away from who want to inject a needle into your veins every 5 minutes than whats the point?
"Got your double dose vaccine? Nice. Got your boosters? Sweet. Oh, but guess what...here come the variants!!!! Were not done yet. In fact, this is the movie that has no end now. Enjoy".
You're not touching this because you "Cant touch this" bada day day boom boom day boom day day da da .. Cant touch this".
TheBigFatClown
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You've repeated the word misinformation like in almost every post you write. Are you a script being run on a Linux server? Or are you just that insecure about your own beliefs? I think you're so insecure about your own blind acceptance of having needles in your arm for the rest of your life ... you're just trying to bring others down into your own little snake pit. You choose needles for life....not me...I'll take "down into the bone lifelong immunity" over your "emergency use" psycho babble BU775h17 any day of the week. You're safe...I'm !@#$'ed...be happy...and let us all die. How hard is that?
Stop trying to save me. You're worse than a Jehovahs Witness for Gods sake. Let me DIE already!
@captaincranky
As Bruce Willis once asked, "Are you NOT entertained?!?!!!"
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Squid Surprise
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So you have nothing new to add to the argument... I don't really care about "saving you"... I care about the people you will come into contact with who you will unknowingly infect...
Kind of how vaccinations work... I realize you either don't understand or care... but at least TRY to think about other people...
Kind of how vaccinations work... I realize you either don't understand or care... but at least TRY to think about other people...
wiyosaya
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Yet another study confirms Mass scale manipulation of Twitter Trends - https://techxplore.com/news/2021-06-mass-scale-twitter-trends.html
IMO, further proof that social media is
IMO, further proof that social media is
wiyosaya
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I heard that the GPS chips in COVID-19 vaccinations are being used to locate targets for those space lasers by democrats. 
(In case you have not figured it out by now, this is sarcasm.)
(In case you have not figured it out by now, this is sarcasm.)
wiyosaya
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Unfortunately, I do not think that people like she/he are capable of thinking of the welfare of others. Its all about Freedumb.
TheBigFatClown
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Same old tripes. Why didn't you just call me a "Grandma killer!!!!!" You could have done it in less strokes. Oh, you wanted to be original, standout from all the "other" vaccine junkies. I am thinking of others. I either end up dead from the virus which is now highly unlikely given how long this "killer virus" has been circulating. Or I am a threat to no one because of natural lifetime developed immunity. Anyone who I infect now is their dumb fault. The "only for emergency use vaccines" can be injected into your veins as you grab your cheeseburger with bacon in the McDonalds drive though. See how brainwashing makes the most twisted evil things seem like another day at your local McDonalds restaurant? Its amazing.
Let me say it once again. For me personally, I'm not becoming a vaccine junkie for anybody. Ain't gonna happen. End of story.
You choose fear over faith freedom and "to the !@#$king bone lifetime immunity". Enjoy!
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Squid Surprise
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Ok... we get it.. you don’t want to be a vaccine junkie... how about just stay away from people then - anyone you infect is YOUR fault just as much as theirs... not sure why you keep posting on here - you have nothing to add...
wiyosaya
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And same old BS from people who quickly read recent articles that do not state lifetime immunity after infection. The articles I have seen only say "may" last a lifetime. Note the difference between "may" and "will" or "lasts". And typical of your ilk to say things like "its their fault". So, you cannot take responsibility for your own actions and have to blame it on someone else to justify your quest for freedumb? Good luck with that.
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-05-immunity-covid-illness-year.html There's a link if you actually care to read something that conflicts with your view of alternate reality.
TheBigFatClown
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Let me say this then, "Naturally Developed Deep into the marrow of the bones Lifetime Immunity". Hold onto your fears of a little ***** virus for life. It's your security blanket and you ain't giving it up for no one!
If you think covid and it's all variants are the last vaccines you're being duped into receiving....think again...roll up your sleeves...cuz.."You ain't seen nothing yet!"
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