FBI raids SAG member's home for uploading five movies

[gwailo247]

A guilty verdict already? A big plus 1 for the prosecution! Somebody get a rope.

Who says it's a waste of taxpayer dollars when we can convict a guy within minutes right here on Techspot?

Well, while not quite as obvious as a banner saying "You're watching a copy of a screener given to John Doe, SAG# 12345" scrolling across the movies, I'm guessing its pretty close to that from a forensic point of view.

I doubt that the FBI picked a random SAG member to burn at the stake. Most of the stuff that gets put out on the web comes from production houses, and other industry members.

Watching VHS tapes/DVDs of Oscar screeners borrowed from neighbors or relatives is a time honored Southern California tradition. =)

 

[captaincranky]

Watching VHS tapes/DVDs of Oscar screeners borrowed from neighbors or relatives is a time honored Southern California tradition. =)

But freely distributing them on the internet would raise the criminality bar quite a bit, would it not?

 

[gwailo247]

captaincranky said: But freely distributing them on the internet would raise the criminality bar quite a bit, would it not?

That's why the guy is an *****. They tell you that the screners are digitally watermarked.

People like him are going to ruin piracy for everyone.

 

[captaincranky]

"I hope they're practicing "safe interrogation" in there'.....

That's why the guy is an *****. They tell you that the screners are digitally watermarked.

People like him are going to ruin piracy for everyone.

Which is why, ATM, the FBI probably has him bent over the back of the chair, "pumping" him for information.

Metadata.............metadata............metadata.........metadata.....metadata....metadata....metadata...metadata,metadata......OK stop, I did it already....

 

[Guest]

to CaptainCranky: Is Charlie Sheen in any of the movies uploaded or have anything to do with the original article?? I'm just wondering why exactly you brought him up specifically...you a fan?!? Completely unrelated imo..

Also and, more importantly probably, it doesn't matter whether you "think" the person (any person) is guilty or not regardless of the situation/crime. If you are an American you should know one of the founding principles of this country is right to a fair trial (I can't even type this seriously)...innocent until PROVEN guilty.

Imo, far too often people are considered and viewed 'guilty' by the public, peers, and media simply based on an arrest or what they 'hear' or 'think'..not based on actual facts. Now lets have some common sense..Obviously the majority of people that get arrested probably are guilty and I do agree with the statement that the FBI or other govt. organization probably isn't going to conduct a lengthy investigation and raid anything without just cause, but that still does not forfeit a persons basic rights.

 

[captaincranky]

to CaptainCranky: Is Charlie Sheen in any of the movies uploaded or have anything to do with the original article?? I'm just wondering why exactly you brought him up specifically...you a fan?!? Completely unrelated imo..

Also and, more importantly probably, it doesn't matter whether you "think" the person (any person) is guilty or not regardless of the situation/crime. If you are an American you should know one of the founding principles of this country is right to a fair trial (I can't even type this seriously)...innocent until PROVEN guilty.

Imo, far too often people are considered and viewed 'guilty' by the public, peers, and media simply based on an arrest or what they 'hear' or 'think'..not based on actual facts. Now lets have some common sense..Obviously the majority of people that get arrested probably are guilty and I do agree with the statement that the FBI or other govt. organization probably isn't going to conduct a lengthy investigation and raid anything without just cause, but that still does not forfeit a persons basic rights.

Are you De Soto's attorney or Sheen's?

That Constitution s**, is it all new to you? Be aware that a great majority of it deals with setting up a government, nothing more. I've skimmed it a bit myself! Did you know that we freed the slaves long before we gave women the right to vote?

I'm deeply sorry, I'm sure a lot of thought went into that post, and a suitably long winded response is in order..

Sometimes the first reports are the true ones. Take the case of Tiger Wood's car crash, and Mr. Sheen's hotel room antics. Then the apologists, spin doctors, and the clowns-slash-fans get a hold of them and begin insisting that, "In my feeble mind, Tiger Woods, Charlie Sheen, Michael Jackson, and "De Soto" can do no wrong".

I post the way I do since I have realized along ago I'll never be able to change your opinion about anything.

With that said, I'm also sure you'll brand me "closed minded" simply because I don't agree with you. Anything else?

Law enforcement does , granted, make mistakes. But they're usually confined to Spanish Harlem and other such places, not in high profile hot button issues such as piracy. And you know what, I sincerely doubt that they make as many mistakes there as the Reverend Al Sharpton would like to have you believe.

 

[gwailo247]

Imo, far too often people are considered and viewed 'guilty' by the public, peers, and media simply based on an arrest or what they 'hear' or 'think'..not based on actual facts. Now lets have some common sense..Obviously the majority of people that get arrested probably are guilty and I do agree with the statement that the FBI or other govt. organization probably isn't going to conduct a lengthy investigation and raid anything without just cause, but that still does not forfeit a persons basic rights.

Wait a second, are you telling me that the readers of TS have been secretly empaneled as a jury without our knowledge? Oh boy, we are in some serious trouble, I've been discussing aspects of this case with outside parties.

 

[captaincranky]

Wait a second, are you telling me that the readers of TS have been secretly empaneled as a jury without our knowledge? Oh boy, we are in some serious trouble, I've been discussing aspects of this case with outside parties.

Yeah well, the guest that you're quoting just got done reading, " The US Constitution for Dummies". At least that would explain most of the post.

 

[PanicX]

Guest said:
Also and, more importantly probably, it doesn't matter whether you "think" the person (any person) is guilty or not regardless of the situation/crime. If you are an American you should know one of the founding principles of this country is right to a fair trial (I can't even type this seriously)...innocent until PROVEN guilty.

Do you understand the concept of direct evidence? If you were going to trust someone with your property, what better method of evidence of infringement could you devise?
Or do you wait around for a jury to decide if a bear, in fact, does **** in the woods?

 

[captaincranky]

Do you understand the concept of direct evidence? If you were going to trust someone with your property, what better method of evidence of infringement could you devise?
Or do you wait around for a jury to decide if a bear, in fact, does **** in the woods?

I understand the concept of direct evidence. It's summed up in this little joke. Some kid was trying to steal a ham from the supermarket. He stuffed it under his arm. As he was walking out, the store security guard stopped him and said, what's that ham doing under your arm? So the kid said, "how'd that get there!

As to the bear in the woods issue, it's "entrapment"! We wouldn't let him s*** on our lawns. We wouldn't let him s*** in our streets. So, he went to the only place he had left to "go", and the cops were waiting for him!

Wait til I tell that guest we've been quoting that the Constitution says the army can't crash at your house without paying you rent...! I know they try and do that all the time. That's in the Bill of Rights too.

 

[gwailo247]

captaincranky said:

Wait a second, are you telling me that the readers of TS have been secretly empaneled as a jury without our knowledge? Oh boy, we are in some serious trouble, I've been discussing aspects of this case with outside parties.

Yeah well, the guest that you're quoting just got done reading, " The US Constitution for Dummies". At least that would explain most of the post.

I like the cut of your jib. I'm nominating you to be foreman of the jury.

 

[Wendig0]

This is why, when I lived in New Orleans, I used to buy all my movies from a twitchy, smelly guy on Bourbon St.

Sure, I had to wear rubber gloves and spray them with Lysol first, but at least I paid for them fair and square right?

 

[Mindwraith]

If he were innocent, he would've welcomed the investigation. But he criticized it, which is what guilty people always do.

 

[Archean]

@Mind
Hime being guilty or not apart (I don't care either way), but if the procedures are being violated by any investigation, it should always remain open to criticism, period.

 

[Wendig0]

If he were innocent, he would've welcomed the investigation. But he criticized it, which is what guilty people always do.

Criticism of having your home raided, and torn apart by Feds is not an admission of guilt. Are you serious Mindwraith? I know I'd criticize the Hell out of having my home raided if I were innocent. I don't know anyone (with the exception of yourself) that would welcome such a thing.

He may or may not be guilty, but lets give the courts a chance to sort it out first.

This is exactly the reason why our legal system is in trouble right now - because of armchair attorneys, juries, and judges. I'm surprised citizens haven't begun issuing arrest warrants from their iPads yet.

 

[Archean]

Wendi:
Today's iphone/ipod generation frankly have intelligence of an snail (I hope they don't mind this comparison); the simple fact is, people have forgotten one very basic principle of law i.e. until someone is 'proven' guilty in a court of law, they are innocent. Tragically this mindset is created by the governments and many other segments of society which have vested interest in such culture.

 

[Wendig0]

Too true Archean. The legal system in our country, flawed as it may be, is the only thing keeping us from having a true police state. New Orleans is already run like a police state, but then again New Orleans has always been corrupt. link