Help a Newb Build FIgure Out What Parts to get for a new PC between $600-700

By rockfan0005
Jun 20, 2005
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  1. Im new to these boards and to computers parts in general. I don't know whats the best for the price I want, and I don't really know if its even doable to have a great PC for around $650.

    Here's my situation: I would like a Good all-around PC, good for gaming, but also good for media. The 650 is just for the CP itself, not the monitor, speakers, ect...I wan't something that will last a while.

    For Hard drive space I want 100+ Gigs. For Ram I would like at least 512 MB. As far as the video card card, and processor/motherboard goes I have no idea what I want.

    MODS/ADMINS:If this topic is in the wrong section please place it in the right one, as far as I could dermine this was the best place to put it in.
  2. vegasgmc

    vegasgmc TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,763

    I'll give it a shot. All this is from Newegg.com
    Athlon 64 3000+ Retail Processor $148
    Biostar NF4ST motherboard $84
    1Gig Mushlin PC3200 RAM $80
    Saphire 256mb Radeon X800 PCI-E video card $240
    Maxtor 120 gig SATA 150 hard drive $81
    Total $633 a very good deal.
  3. rockfan0005

    rockfan0005 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 23

    What would be a good, compatibable, cheap, and fairly good looking case to go along with it?
  4. vnf4ultra

    vnf4ultra TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,195

  5. rockfan0005

    rockfan0005 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 23

    Yeah that second one I'm seriously considering. If I was going to go with the second one, do you guys know of any good power supplies, (in this area I don't know anything, the others I had an idea).
  6. rockfan0005

    rockfan0005 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 23

    I just did some recalculations, and I'll need to spend 700 total, which is including the monitor, keyboard, and mouse...bummer. So I'll have to make some altercations definately to make it cheaper, so if you guys could try to get near the same quality stuff for less that'd be great.
  7. vegasgmc

    vegasgmc TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,763

    Do you currently have a system you can scavenge parts from? What are you going to do about an operating system? Buying one will cost about $90.
  8. rockfan0005

    rockfan0005 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 23

    Here's what I have, my current laptop a T40 IBM Thinkpad and a Hewlett Packard Pavillon 6465...(pretty much nothing to use from either of those). Yeah, I wish I could use my operating system from my Thinkpad, but I got one through my school and don't ask why but they don't give out the disks. So yeah I'll have to spend the extra $90 limiting my spending capabilities even further.

    So let's go through how much I can realistically spend on my comp hardware:
    Start out with 700

    Spend at least 150 on a 15" LCD Monitor

    Have 550

    Spend 10-30 on mouse and keyboard (say its ten)

    Have 540

    Spend lets say 90 for Windows XP Home Edition

    450

    OUCH!

    So if you guys could figure out the best comp possible to build a PC for 450 yeah, I know it's very limited but see what you guys can do.
  9. vnf4ultra

    vnf4ultra TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,195

    Ok, I'll look for cheaper stuff and post back in a little bit.

    I think it's doable, just you may have to get a lower power system.
  10. swker98

    swker98 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,348

    i thinkmaybe he could get a little slower viedo card maybe like an x700 or 6600gt or something along those lines it will almost cut ur viedo card cost ni half or to maybe 150- 160 and then maybe only an 80 gbhdd if thats possable.

    i hoped it helped
  11. vegasgmc

    vegasgmc TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,763

    Check Tigerdirect.com. They have some great deals on refurbished and closeout systems. Like these, then just ad a video card
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?page=2&Nav=|c:1344|&Sort=0&Recs=10
     
  12. rockfan0005

    rockfan0005 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 23

    Yeah, 80 would work. Just make sure there is room for expansion/upgrades, because I'm sure in the future I will want to upgrade it to make it a lot better.
  13. rockfan0005

    rockfan0005 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 23

    vegasgmc-those are great buys, Especially the first one, my God. Though I have heard some bad things from E-machines. Though I'm pretty sure I want to make a 100% sure, if I did by one of their CP's I could buy a different case and move all of it to their, because the power supply isn't enough for me, (because obviously I would like to upgrade it as time goes on), and I'm not sure about their cooling system.
  14. vnf4ultra

    vnf4ultra TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,195

    Ok, here's my original thought.
    A basic budget system. It's harder to get a computer for $450 than I thought.

    Motherboard $60
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813152043

    Memory $44
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145026

    Cpu $83
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819104224

    Video $113
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814125183


    Hd $60
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148015

    Case/psu $71(both psu and case)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811129117


    Dvd rom $23
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827131410

    So that'd be a sempron 754 2800+, 512mb of ram, 6200 128mb video, 80gb hd, dvd rom, silver antec case w/ 300w psu.

    Total: $454, right on target for the budget, unless I missed something.

    But you say you want upgradeablility, and not that this system isn't upgradeable, but a 939 nforce 4 system would be better, but about $200 more.

    Remember, a oem system(hp, emachine, etc) won't be as upgradeable as a custom built pc, and most barebones are outdated(like socket A) and have junky components, like off brand/obsolete parts.
  15. rockfan0005

    rockfan0005 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 23

    vnf4ultra-thanks for all the advice, but right now I'm thinking about going with one of the E-Machines PC's and upgrading it a little.

    But if you guys could confirm my ambitions of upgrading the case/power supply, or telling me otherwise, because that could make quite a big difference.

    And as far as reliablitiy of E-machines, you guys have any experience with them?

    Edit: I just found this:
    http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,112915,pg,8,00.asp
    It says that Emachines got the number 1 slot for reliablity, this idea is looking better and better
  16. vnf4ultra

    vnf4ultra TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,195

    For a budget pc, oems will always beat home building on price, they can volume buy parts for much cheaper.

    Which pc are you looking at? This one?
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1239071&CatId=0

    Why do you think you'd need a new case? You may need a new psu though.
    Oem psus tend to be underpowered.

    You may consider dell, they have some good deals.
    Check a 4700(3000's aren't upgradeable).
    http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&oc=D47SAPB&s=dhs
  17. vegasgmc

    vegasgmc TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,763

    Older eMachines had a bad rap but the newer ones get pretty high reliability ratings. There were also some great prices there on Gateways.
  18. swker98

    swker98 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,348

    i think wit the e-machine, there isnt an agp slot correct me if im wrong about that, you woulnt want to be stuck with onborad, just make shore it has an agp slot, and i think dell would be a bit more ecpencive one u get all the good stuff like 512ram and 80gb hdd. also with the e-machine youhave onborad vido taking up 224mb of your ram . so just donsider these things, im not bashing e-machine just wanted to let you know how upgradeable it weas



    EDIT: a dell system with 80gb hdd and 512rram will be 639
     
  19. rockfan0005

    rockfan0005 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 23

    I started surfing the website and this looked appealing:
    Yeah this is the one I'm looking at: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1239071&CatId=0

    That being 500, I can buy a fifteen inch LCD for 160, which will only give me $40 for a graphics card...damn it. I'll look around for good deals, but if I don't find anything I might go with the one I posted, and just wait a little while until I get enough money for a decent graphics card.
  20. AtK SpAdE

    AtK SpAdE TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,846

    Well the emachines you posted has neither an AGP or a PCI-x16 slot.
    It has 2 PCI Slots and one PCI-x1 slot. You can get a Gfx card for those slots, yes, but they will limit your performance.

    Sean
  21. swker98

    swker98 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,348

    well the dell that vnf4ultra posted would be right on budget , it would cost 679, with 512 ram, 80gb hdd and an x300se viedo cardm but its a start
  22. rockfan0005

    rockfan0005 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 23

    AtK SpAdE-thanks for the heads up, i'll think about that a bit.

    swker980-if I would buy the dell I just wouldn't have enough for a reasonable LCD monitor, and other things, thanks for trying though.
  23. vnf4ultra

    vnf4ultra TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,195

    So what is your plan? Are you building or buying?
  24. swker98

    swker98 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,348

    i think the dell includes crt moniter
  25. rockfan0005

    rockfan0005 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 23

    To me it really doesn't matter, whatever will get me the best parts, for the cheapest price, as far as I'm conserned I could build, buy, or buy and upgrade. To me it makes no difference.
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