Huawei founder says 'there's no way the US can crush us,' calls CFO arrest politically...

[midian182]

What just happened? With the US warning its allies against using Huawei's technology, founder Ren Zhengfei has said that there is no way the country can crush the company. He also believes that the arrest of his daughter, who is also the firm’s CFO, was politically motivated.

After the US had long been accusing Huawei of spying on behalf of the Chinese government, its CFO, Meng Wanzhou, was arrested in Canada last December at the request of the United States. She's accused of "conspiracy to defraud multiple financial institutions," including breaking American sanctions on Iran.

In the interview with the British broadcaster, Zhengfei said: "Firstly, I object to what the US has done. This kind of politically motivated act is not acceptable. The US likes to sanction others, whenever there's an issue, they'll use such combative methods. We object to this. But now that we've gone down this path, we'll let the courts settle it."

Meng Wanzhou

The US has warned its allies not to use Huawei technology in their 5G networks. US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said those that do would make it more difficult for the government to "partner alongside them." But Zhengfei believes “there's no way the US can crush" his firm, and while he concedes that some customers will be lost, Huawei, which is the second-largest smartphone maker in the world, will adapt.

“The world cannot leave us because we are more advanced," he said. "Even if [the US manages to] persuade more countries not to use us temporarily, we can always scale things down a bit."

In a rare interview with the foreign media last month, Zhengfei again denied the spying allegations. He also called Donald Trump “a great president.”

While Australia, New Zealand, and Japan have chosen not to use Huawei’s 5G tech, it looks as if the UK might ignore US warnings. The country’s National Cyber Security Centre (NCSC), part of GCHQ, has concluded that the risks posed by Huawei’s equipment can be mitigated. This could encourage other European nations to follow suit.

Speaking about the spying claims, Zhengfei said it was something he wouldn’t allow. "The Chinese government has already clearly said that it won't install any backdoors. And we won't install backdoors either. We're not going to risk the disgust of our country and of our customers all over the world, because of something like this.”

"Our company will never undertake any spying activities. If we have any such actions, then I'll shut the company down."

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[iamcts]

"The Chinese government has already clearly said that it won't install any backdoors. And we won't install backdoors either. We're not going to risk the disgust of our country and of our customers all over the world, because of something like this.”

Translation: We were planning to install a backdoor for the Chinese government and were caught.

 

[xxLCxx]

It's interesting how Huawei is being depicted falsely. They have a company that is owned by the workers (shares). This is why they are more inspired than they are in your usual top-down company. They have three CEOs. Among those, the head CEO changes every six month (rotation), while the other two keep supporting him/her. They reason that "one CEO isn't enough for a company their size" and that being lead CEO brings a lot of stress, hence the rotation. This is very progressive.
Most Western companies (just look at Amazon) look like slave camps compared to that. ;-)

 

[xxLCxx]

"The Chinese government has already clearly said that it won't install any backdoors. And we won't install backdoors either. We're not going to risk the disgust of our country and of our customers all over the world, because of something like this.”

Translation: We were planning to install a backdoor for the Chinese government and were caught.

Nice lies. How about some truth? They weren't caught. It was the NSA and their affiliates who were caught doing much worse on a bigger scale. Remember Snowden? You consider him a traitor for speaking the truth and publishing crimes...

 

[p51d007]

It's interesting how Huawei is being depicted falsely. They have a company that is owned by the workers (shares). This is why they are more inspired than they are in your usual top-down company. They have three CEOs. Among those, the head CEO changes every six month (rotation), while the other two keep supporting him/her. They reason that "one CEO isn't enough for a company their size" and that being lead CEO brings a lot of stress, hence the rotation. This is very progressive.
Most Western companies (just look at Amazon) look like slave camps compared to that. ;-)

If you REALLY believe this....you need to be medically checked!
This is a COMMUNIST dictatorship! The "workers" are slave labor. There was an article that said what other country, has a "willing" labor force of over 100,000 people that will work 24/7 for you.
The photos you see of this "work force" that is all smiles with a clean work environment, clean uniforms
is just for show. These "slave workers" live in trashed out locations, starve but are doing it because it is better than being DEAD.

 

[iamcts]

It's interesting how Huawei is being depicted falsely. They have a company that is owned by the workers (shares). This is why they are more inspired than they are in your usual top-down company. They have three CEOs. Among those, the head CEO changes every six month (rotation), while the other two keep supporting him/her. They reason that "one CEO isn't enough for a company their size" and that being lead CEO brings a lot of stress, hence the rotation. This is very progressive.
Most Western companies (just look at Amazon) look like slave camps compared to that. ;-)

Can we please stop pretending that Huawei is some perfect angel of a company?

Nice lies. How about some truth? They weren't caught. It was the NSA and their affiliates who were caught doing much worse on a bigger scale. Remember Snowden? You consider him a traitor for speaking the truth and publishing crimes...

Snowden isn't a traitor. He's a whistleblower that exposed dirty tricks and games by the US government.

 

[Vulcanproject]

The spies at GCHQ (and that is essentially what they are) believe that the risk is minimal and can monitor it then the British will do as they please. They should know, it has been their precise job for an entire century to nosy through the communication traffic of Europe. And beyond.

It will mean a lot of European countries are less likely to listen to the USA's demands to drop Huawei as a partner.

 

[iamcts]

If you REALLY believe this....you need to be medically checked!
This is a COMMUNIST dictatorship! The "workers" are slave labor. There was an article that said what other country, has a "willing" labor force of over 100,000 people that will work 24/7 for you.
The photos you see of this "work force" that is all smiles with a clean work environment, clean uniforms
is just for show. These "slave workers" live in trashed out locations, starve but are doing it because it is better than being DEAD.

I think the Chinese government has shills working on their behalf.

Everyone already knows the government there is one giant human rights violation.

 

[seeprime]

It's interesting how Huawei is being depicted falsely. They have a company that is owned by the workers (shares). This is why they are more inspired than they are in your usual top-down company. They have three CEOs. Among those, the head CEO changes every six month (rotation), while the other two keep supporting him/her. They reason that "one CEO isn't enough for a company their size" and that being lead CEO brings a lot of stress, hence the rotation. This is very progressive.
Most Western companies (just look at Amazon) look like slave camps compared to that. ;-)

Huawei claims to be a "collective" being partly owned by workers. In fact, this is similar to Western stockholder corporations. The issue is that the top executives still run the show. China is where they are located and who they are loyal to. Considering how often China and Chinese firms steal Western tech and lie about it, I choose to not believe that Huawei is a non-partial business, in spite of what they publicly state.

 

[xxLCxx]

It's amazing. I watched "Inherit the Wind" (with Spencer Tracy) yesterday. The movie is from 1960. The first thing that came to mind was how little you'd have to change to make the same movie today - sixty years later! Add some color and you're good to go. Maybe in 1960 the USA was even more progressive than today. It makes you wonder...

 

[Kibaruk]

How impressive is it to not hear a single thing about the Russians today? At least from outside of the US, some time ago it was the Russians, now the Chinese, who's up next?

 

[mbrowne5061]

How impressive is it to not hear a single thing about the Russians today? At least from outside of the US, some time ago it was the Russians, now the Chinese, who's up next?

Maybe their "internet disconnect test" has finally started? I'm sure they will join us shortly, either way.

"Putin is a threat to the sovereignty of every country, including his own" - there, that ought to get them in here.

 

[wiyosaya]

How impressive is it to not hear a single thing about the Russians today? At least from outside of the US, some time ago it was the Russians, now the Chinese, who's up next?

Based on the news, probably Venezuela.

 

[kevbev89]

It's interesting how Huawei is being depicted falsely. They have a company that is owned by the workers (shares). This is why they are more inspired than they are in your usual top-down company. They have three CEOs. Among those, the head CEO changes every six month (rotation), while the other two keep supporting him/her. They reason that "one CEO isn't enough for a company their size" and that being lead CEO brings a lot of stress, hence the rotation. This is very progressive.
Most Western companies (just look at Amazon) look like slave camps compared to that. ;-)

If you REALLY believe this....you need to be medically checked!
This is a COMMUNIST dictatorship! The "workers" are slave labor. There was an article that said what other country, has a "willing" labor force of over 100,000 people that will work 24/7 for you.
The photos you see of this "work force" that is all smiles with a clean work environment, clean uniforms
is just for show. These "slave workers" live in trashed out locations, starve but are doing it because it is better than being DEAD.

I'm pretty sure that I will never buy a Huawei or China phone maker's device ever after the slew of articles.

However, let's not over exaggerate the situation in China. Maybe in the past it may be true that the "slave laborers" were living in less than ideal environments, but that is hardly true now. The US and many other first world countries were in that state, but eventually grew out of it. The minimum wage of workers/employees have gone up significantly that many companies are looking to outsource elsewhere.

If you look at things objectively, US is hardly a true democracy and China is not a true communist country anymore.

 

[wiyosaya]

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However, let's not over exaggerate the situation in China. Maybe in the past it may be true that the "slave laborers" were living in less than ideal environments, but that is hardly true now.

Foxconn's crApple factory. Just because we have not heard of it recently does not mean conditions have improved.

The US and many other first world countries were in that state, but eventually grew out of it. The minimum wage of workers/employees have gone up significantly that many companies are looking to outsource elsewhere.

Ah yes. The old labor costs too much, we have to outsource to where it is cheaper excuse. Corporate double-speak for "our slaves cost us too much, let's fire them and find cheaper labor overseas."

 

[kevbev89]

Foxconn's crApple factory. Just because we have not heard of it recently does not mean conditions have improved.


Ah yes. The old labor costs too much, we have to outsource to where it is cheaper excuse. Corporate double-speak for "our slaves cost us too much, let's fire them and find cheaper labor overseas."

Not too sure you are just saying that because you know or don't know how it works in China. Let me give you an example. During the CNY holidays more than half of the workers do not return to their employer (and without notice) because they find other opportunities or want to switch places. You do know that countries that are expanding tend to start "upgrading" the type of work they do right? Sure there is still a large population of people that do labor work, but a lot of people start to aim for higher, better paying jobs. Just so happens other outsourced countries are not at that point and are willing to do the work that more advanced or advancing countries are growing out of. Pretty much why illegal immigrants come to the US, because they do the work that the typical American thinks is not worth their time (which rightfully may be so, due to the investment they put into their education).

Also, **** that you buy becomes more expensive if the cost is more expensive, ya know? (And please don't pull the "well apple is selling their phone over $1000000!!! They chose to segment themselves exclusively in the luxury market).

 

[Evernessince]

It's interesting how Huawei is being depicted falsely. They have a company that is owned by the workers (shares). This is why they are more inspired than they are in your usual top-down company. They have three CEOs. Among those, the head CEO changes every six month (rotation), while the other two keep supporting him/her. They reason that "one CEO isn't enough for a company their size" and that being lead CEO brings a lot of stress, hence the rotation. This is very progressive.
Most Western companies (just look at Amazon) look like slave camps compared to that. ;-)

Most western companies might as well be slave camps.

On the other hand though, the government here also doesn't control and filter the internet nor does it have the authority to unilaterally do what it wants to it's citizens.

 

[xxLCxx]

... On the other hand though, the government here also doesn't control and filter the internet nor does it have the authority to unilaterally do what it wants to it's citizens.

You forgot the wink.

 

[wiyosaya]

Also, **** that you buy becomes more expensive if the cost is more expensive, ya know? (And please don't pull the "well apple is selling their phone over $1000000!!! They chose to segment themselves exclusively in the luxury market).

And therein you get the prize.

As I see it, you've touched on the basis of the problem. Most of the world subscribes to a "winner take all" economic system and ever increasing prices are an idi0tic, IMO, consequence.

If we carry that to the logical conclusion, I.e., countries develop, eventually out-source jobs because everyone wants a higher paying job, where will the menial labor force come from? No country on Earth will want it, and automation may not provide a workable solution.

I have no answers; however, IMO, systemic changes are desperately needed.