IDE??? huh??

[TKJay15]

Ok, now im not sure whats up but i found this very odd and possibly part of the reason why OS installers have trouble recognizing my HD.

My hard drive is an SATA 150 Maxtor and for some reason in programs like 3DMark it tells me that my drive isnt SATA but IDE? I was really confused about this. Is is supposed to be like this or am i missing something? If anyone knows a solution to this problem (if one is actually needed) your help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

 

[Vigilante]

You still have IDE in the system, with your optical drives. Sure it isn't talking about that?
Also, some motherboards don't have a "true" SATA chip, a dedicated chip that is. They just have a sort of crossover SATA on the IDE chip. If that's the case, and you don't have a dedicated SATA chip, it may say that I suppose.

Otherwise, can't say. Is it a newer version of 3DMark?

 

[TKJay15]

3DMark version: 3DMark 05 free version 1.2.0
Sisoft Version: Sandra Lite 2007.8.10.105

Sorry about the super huge post !

Now im not sure if this can clear some things up but i ran it in Sisoft Sandra as well and these were the results:

SiSoftware Sandra

General Information
Controller : 0
Bus : 0
Target ID : 0
Logical Unit No. : 0

General Capabilities
Channel : Master
Type : ATA
Removable : No
Model : Maxtor 6L200M0
Revision : BANC1E00
Serial Number : L408AC4H
ATA/ATAPI Approved Version : 7.30
Disk Cache : Multi-Sector with Read Cache
Cache Size : 8MB

Drive Geometry
CHS Geometry : 16383 x 16 x 63
CHS Total Sectors : 16514064
LBA Total Sectors : 398297088
Number of ECC Bytes : 4
Capacity : 190GB

Translation Mode Geometry
CHS Geometry : 24792 x 255 x 63
Bytes Per Sector : 512 byte(s)

Properties
IORDY Support : Yes
IORDY Disableable : Yes
LBA Support : Yes
DMA Support : Yes

Features
S.M.A.R.T Support : Yes
Security Support : Yes
Power Management Support : Yes
ACPI Power Management Support : Yes
Power-up in Standby : No
Packet Command Interface : No
Removable Media : No
Look-Ahead Buffer : Yes
Write-Back Cache : Yes
Host Protect Area : Yes
Microcode Update : Yes
Acoustic Management : Yes
48-bit LBA : Yes
Device Config Overlay : Yes

Active Features
S.M.A.R.T Enabled : No
Security Enabled : No
Power Management Enabled : Yes
ACPI Power Management Enabled : No
Look-Ahead Buffer Enabled : Yes
Write-Back Cache Enabled : Yes
Host Protect Area Enabled : Yes
Acoustic Management Enabled : Yes

Transfer Modes Support
IO Queue Depth : 32
Block Size : 16
Width : 16-bit
Maximum PIO Mode : PIO-4
Maximum DMA MW Mode : MWDMA-2
Maximum UDMA Mode : UDMA-6

Transfer Modes Active
Current Block Transfer : 16
Current Active Mode : UDMA-6

Also heres what Sisoft says for my mobo:

SiSoftware Sandra

Mainboard
MP Support : 1 Processor(s)
MPS Version : 1.40
Model : 939Dual-SATA2
Type : Mainboard
Version : 1.00
Serial Number : 00000000
Asset Tag : 00000000
Location in Chassis : TBD
System BIOS : 62-140-0000010-00101111-110105-ALI

System Mainboard Properties
Removable : No
Replaceable : Yes
Hot Swap : No

Chipset 1
Model : Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi) ULi M1695 K8 Northbridge with PCI-Express and hypertransport
Bus(es) : AGP PCI PCIe USB i2c/SMBus
Version : 1.05
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 800MHz (1600MHz data rate)
In/Out Width : 16-bit / 16-bit

Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks
Memory Controller in Processor : Yes
Power Save Mode : No
Fixed Hole Present : No

Chipset 2
Model : Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi) ULi M1689 K8 Northbridge with AGP and hypertransport
Bus(es) : AGP PCI PCIe USB i2c/SMBus
Version : 1.04
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 800MHz (1600MHz data rate)
In/Out Width : 16-bit / 8-bit

Logical/Chipset 2 Memory Banks
Memory Controller in Processor : Yes
Power Save Mode : No
Fixed Hole Present : No

Chipset 3
Model : Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) Athlon 64 / Opteron HyperTransport Technology Configuration
Bus(es) : AGP PCI PCIe USB i2c/SMBus
Version : 1.02
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 800MHz (1600MHz data rate)
Maximum FSB Speed / Max Memory Speed : 2x 1000MHz / 2x 200MHz
In/Out Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
IO Queue Depth : 8 request(s)

Chipset 3 Hub Interface
Type : HyperTransport
Version : 1.02
In/Out Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
Speed : 2x 800MHz (1600MHz data rate)

Logical/Chipset 3 Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM 2.5-3-3-7 (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS) CR2
Bank 1 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM 2.5-3-3-7 (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS) CR2
Channels : 1
Bank Interleave : 2-way
Speed : 2x 166MHz (332MHz data rate)
Multiplier : 1/12x
Width : 128-bit
Memory Controller in Processor : Yes
Cores per Memory Controller : 1 Unit(s)
Refresh Rate : 7.80µs
Power Save Mode : No
Fixed Hole Present : No

Memory Module 1
Model : 51056732119
Serial Number : 354C1001
Type : 512MB DDR-SDRAM
Technology : 16x(32Mx8)
Speed : PC3200U
Standard Timings : 2.5-3-3-8 (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS)
Version : 1.0
Date of Manufacture : Saturday, May 21, 2005
Set Timing @ 200MHz : 2.5-3-3-8 (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS)

Environment Monitor 1
Model : Winbond W83627(T)HF ISA
Version : 2.01
Mainboard Specific Support : No

Temperature Sensor(s)
Board Temperature : 34.0°C / 93.2°F
CPU Temperature : 37.0°C / 98.6°F
Power / Aux Temperature : 29.5°C / 85.1°F

Cooling Device(s)
Auto Fan Speed Control : No
CPU Fan Speed : 3444rpm

Voltage Sensor(s)
CPU Voltage : 1.41V
Aux Voltage : 1.58V
+3.3V Voltage : 3.33V
+5V Voltage : 5.11V
+12V Voltage : 12.22V
Standby Voltage : 4.95V
Battery Voltage : 3.05V

PCI Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.30
Number of Bridges : 5
PCI Bus 0 : PCI (1/1x PCIClk)
PCI Bus 1 : PCIe (3/1x PCIClk)
PCI Bus 2 : PCIe (3/1x PCIClk)
PCI Bus 3 : PCIe (3/1x PCIClk)
PCI Bus 5 : PCI (1/1x PCIClk)
Number of PCIe Lanes : 20

AGP Bus(es) on Hub 2
Version : 3.00
Maximum Data Transfer Rate : 4x
Fast-Writes Enabled : No
Isochronous Mode Enabled : No
Addressing Enabled : 32-bit

LPC Hub Controller 1
Model : ASRock Inc ALI M1563 South Bridge with Hypertransport Support

USB Controller 1
Model : ASRock Inc ALI M5237 OpenHCI USB Controller
Version : 1.00
Interface : OHCI
Channels : 3
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 2
Model : ASRock Inc ALI M5237 OpenHCI USB Controller
Version : 1.00
Interface : OHCI
Channels : 3
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 3
Model : ASRock Inc ALI M5237 OpenHCI USB Controller
Version : 1.00
Interface : OHCI
Channels : 3
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 4
Model : ASRock Inc USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller
Version : 2.00
Specification : 1.00
Interface : EHCI
Channels : 8
Companion Controllers : 3
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) High (480Mbps)
Addressing Support : 32-bit
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

System SMBus Controller 1
Model : Ali 1563 SMBus
Specification : 2.00
Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : No
Slave Device Enabled : No
PEC Support : No
Speed : 55kHz

 

[Tedster]

also another possibility - is your sata drive installed with a SATA to IDE converter?

 

[TKJay15]

Could be, but with that in mind how can i tell and if it is the case how do i disable/fix it?

Thanks

 

[Vigilante]

Open up your case and take a look at the physical drive. If it has the small little cable from the drive to the mobo, it's sata. If it has any kind of adapter to a wider, 40/80 pin cable, it's adapted.

I'll take a look at those logs in a bit, working now.

Also I wouldn't worry about it, they report it wrong, doesn't mean much.

 

[TKJay15]

Yah, its SATA i know it for sure (personally built the system ).

And thanks for all the help youve given so far.

The only reason im really worried about it is the fact that whenever i try to install a fresh copy of windows on another partion or even linux its a hassle to get the drive to even be recognized when doing an install. I've wanted to do a clean wipe of this HD for a while but i was swayed away when i tried to do it and the XP install CD said something along the lines (cant remember exact message) that there were no drives installed in the computer . I was even going to try and format the HD completely with Dban or something along those lines in order to have a completely fresh drive but i didnt want to do that and still not be able to install XP on the HD cause then i would have a useless HD haha.

But it may even be another problem but i havent been able to figure it out yet ....

 

[Vigilante]

XP setup says you have no drive because it needs the SATA driver to be loaded.
When setup first starts, it will say on the bottom, "press F6...." to load addition drivers. You need to press F6 when it says to!
And then you have to have you SATA driver, on a floppy disk, ready to use.
After that driver is installed, XP will be able to see your drive and partition/format it.

 

[TKJay15]

Haha wow that is such a logical solution i cant believe ive been missing that the whole time :haha:, only problem now is i do not have a floppy drive :X can i do it from a flash drive perhaps or cd? And i assume this should also apply to some extent to other OS's like linux and such?

 

[Samstoned]

floppy or cd would work should work fine the flash needs drivers install before it will read
MB's with on board flash may be ok as the OS may load this driver before you need the SATA drivers.
system shows a ATA and thats what you got

check bios what does it report as the first drive
maybe there a setting to emulate ide for sata

 

[Vigilante]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think XP requires a floppy for the driver to work. It asks for it, and doesn't let you choose another medium, or so I've experienced. I've always had to use a floppy for the SATA driver.

In any case, a floppy drive is super cheap if you need one.

I imagine Linux and all that would require drivers as well. The OSes all come with some drivers, but never every driver. And if generic ones don't work, well, it will require it of you.

 

[TKJay15]

Thanks alot for all of your help! everything seems to be running smooth again (as far as OS installations go) but i swear my HD must have a mind of its own or something because after i went through the trouble of adding an old floppy drive to my comp etc... windows decided to work without me having to specify a driver for the SATA haha

 

[Vigilante]

Didn't you know Windows XP is "adaptive", it learns your ways and behaves accordingly. NOT!
So that's the end of it.

 

[Samstoned]

some intel sata chipsets are already loaded in xp spk 2
just like scsi
my one experiance with a (new)sata driver load was with cd from MB kit