IDE??? huh??

By TKJay15
Sep 19, 2006
  1. Ok, now im not sure whats up but i found this very odd and possibly part of the reason why OS installers have trouble recognizing my HD.

    My hard drive is an SATA 150 Maxtor and for some reason in programs like 3DMark it tells me that my drive isnt SATA but IDE? I was really confused about this. Is is supposed to be like this or am i missing something? If anyone knows a solution to this problem (if one is actually needed) your help will be greatly appreciated.

  2. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,666

    You still have IDE in the system, with your optical drives. Sure it isn't talking about that?
    Also, some motherboards don't have a "true" SATA chip, a dedicated chip that is. They just have a sort of crossover SATA on the IDE chip. If that's the case, and you don't have a dedicated SATA chip, it may say that I suppose.

    Otherwise, can't say. Is it a newer version of 3DMark?
  3. TKJay15

    TKJay15 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 29

    3DMark version: 3DMark 05 free version 1.2.0
    Sisoft Version: Sandra Lite 2007.8.10.105

    Sorry about the super huge post :eek: !

    Now im not sure if this can clear some things up but i ran it in Sisoft Sandra as well and these were the results:
    Also heres what Sisoft says for my mobo:
  4. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 6,000   +15

    also another possibility - is your sata drive installed with a SATA to IDE converter?
  5. TKJay15

    TKJay15 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 29

    Could be, but with that in mind how can i tell and if it is the case how do i disable/fix it?

  6. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,666

    Open up your case and take a look at the physical drive. If it has the small little cable from the drive to the mobo, it's sata. If it has any kind of adapter to a wider, 40/80 pin cable, it's adapted.

    I'll take a look at those logs in a bit, working now.

    Also I wouldn't worry about it, they report it wrong, doesn't mean much.
  7. TKJay15

    TKJay15 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 29

    Yah, its SATA i know it for sure (personally built the system :) ).

    And thanks for all the help youve given so far.

    The only reason im really worried about it is the fact that whenever i try to install a fresh copy of windows on another partion or even linux its a hassle to get the drive to even be recognized when doing an install. I've wanted to do a clean wipe of this HD for a while but i was swayed away when i tried to do it and the XP install CD said something along the lines (cant remember exact message) that there were no drives installed in the computer :confused:. I was even going to try and format the HD completely with Dban or something along those lines in order to have a completely fresh drive but i didnt want to do that and still not be able to install XP on the HD cause then i would have a useless HD :eek: haha.

    But it may even be another problem but i havent been able to figure it out yet :( ....
  8. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,666

    XP setup says you have no drive because it needs the SATA driver to be loaded.
    When setup first starts, it will say on the bottom, "press F6...." to load addition drivers. You need to press F6 when it says to!
    And then you have to have you SATA driver, on a floppy disk, ready to use.
    After that driver is installed, XP will be able to see your drive and partition/format it.
  9. TKJay15

    TKJay15 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 29

    Haha wow that is such a logical solution i cant believe ive been missing that the whole time :haha:, only problem now is i do not have a floppy drive :X can i do it from a flash drive perhaps or cd? And i assume this should also apply to some extent to other OS's like linux and such?
  10. Samstoned

    Samstoned TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,018

    floppy or cd would work should work fine the flash needs drivers install before it will read
    MB's with on board flash may be ok as the OS may load this driver before you need the SATA drivers.
    system shows a ATA and thats what you got

    check bios what does it report as the first drive
    maybe there a setting to emulate ide for sata
  11. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,666

    Maybe I'm wrong, but I think XP requires a floppy for the driver to work. It asks for it, and doesn't let you choose another medium, or so I've experienced. I've always had to use a floppy for the SATA driver.

    In any case, a floppy drive is super cheap if you need one.

    I imagine Linux and all that would require drivers as well. The OSes all come with some drivers, but never every driver. And if generic ones don't work, well, it will require it of you.
  12. TKJay15

    TKJay15 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 29

    Thanks alot for all of your help! everything seems to be running smooth again (as far as OS installations go) but i swear my HD must have a mind of its own or something because after i went through the trouble of adding an old floppy drive to my comp etc... windows decided to work without me having to specify a driver for the SATA haha
  13. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,666

    Didn't you know Windows XP is "adaptive", it learns your ways and behaves accordingly. NOT!
    So that's the end of it.
  14. Samstoned

    Samstoned TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,018

    some intel sata chipsets are already loaded in xp spk 2
    just like scsi
    my one experiance with a (new)sata driver load was with cd from MB kit
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