hi there. i wanted to ask u guys for any advice on a laptop. i've been searching for a decent one for over a month as i need a relative powerfull one for audio/video editing, gaming and ideally dual booting with 2hds. currently mmy preferences are:
1) atleast Core 2 Duo - T5500
2) atleast 1GB mem (prefer 2gb at 667)
3) 100GB (preferably 2xhds and at 7200rpm)
4) 7600 256Mb Nvidia (prefer the new dx10 - 8600M 256/512Mb)
5) 17" (atleast 1440x900, prefer the 1680x1050 or 1920..)

currently the only model i've found for this is the "HP Pavilion DV9500t", but they dont sale this in the UK, seems that only in US from HP direct. Other model is a Dell Inspiron 1720/1715/1702.. and a Toshiba 205 series.

anyone else found any other model that has these features?
i can stretch my price range from 600 to 1000£, however i would prefer as cheap as possible.
anyhow, hope u guys have any advice as i need to get this as soon as possible and cant seem to make up my mind on which model
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thanks

good gaming laptops don't come cheap mate. HP's are about the best you'll get though.
Do a search, there was another thread about this that ran for quite a while i believe.

This is perfect for you IMO.

Yeah that looks like a good set up except for one piece. In the article on the homepage it says
"While it is true a DX10 rig will not set you back $3,000 if you don't want it to, gamers are definitely averse to Windows Vista, currently the only operating system functional with DX10."
You have that one set up with win xp so i dont know if you will have the dx10 option

DX10 games are not optimized for DX10 hardware at all. Look at the performance of the DX10-patched version of CoH. All the DX10 cards perform abysmally, with the exception of the 8800GTX and Ultra. Also, Vista is too buggy for now. XP SP2 is the best choice right now IMO. I'd say get Vista after the first proper service pack releases and since you already have a DX10 card in the laptop, you wouldn't have an obsolete piece of hardware on your hands.

true. i was just pointing out the fact that he wanted to go along the dx10 route and i was just saying you need vista to use dx10

hello there and thanks all for your replies. am still in the lookout for the laptop. the "wakizachi" aint something i would spend money on, as first and most importantly its 15.4" and definetly i need 17" with atleast 1440x..., prefer though the 1680x1050, not 1920x...
then again that laptop is tooooo expensive for my pocket, though looks a bit fast
anyhow. in regards the DX10 i will be using xp sp2 for the next atleast 1year, as all audio applications am using are only supported on that bloody xp. and yes vista will be used on the system once all drivers and software updates are available. i just prefer the new 8 series of nvidia as they are new and obviously all new apps/games/blips/whisles , will be available on that platform in the next months/years.

dunno if i make any sense, just am looking for that 17" laptop with 2cores and possibly 2hds/8 nvidia. price range cant go above £600/700 max at the moment as buying other stuff too.

anyhow, thanks for ur help all, and if u have any laptop model in mind do let me know.

thanks

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btw, dx can work with xp, though not in the traditional way micro**** wanted us to work with, but good enough
DX on XP

We specialize in laptop repair and have been in business doing that since 1992 with shops in three states.

We am quite convinced that there is no laptop that will be a good gaming system without failing early. If you get one for that purpose, get one with the four year warranty.

One thing about which we ar certain: Laptops to avoid if reliability is to be a factor: Sony VAIO, ASUS, ACER, Alienware, Compaq, Toshiba, Sotec... well the list goes on.

Among the best are the higher priced HP units with multiple fans for moving air in and out, followed by top of the line Dell and Gateway.

If you find one that you like and you haven't spent $1800 or more, it is not good enough.

There is no gaming laptop I know of that will meet your criteria. That is, unless you want a Dell with an 8400 series card that is DX10 compatible but crappy. Be more realistic. A good-quality gaming laptop will set you back at least 1000-1500 pounds.

i dont think he is looking for a top of the line laptop. I can get away with gaming on my dell inspiron 6000 from 2 years ago if i turn down settings and stuff and i bought it for 1200 new (USD). He is just looking for a decent laptop in that price range that ships to the uk. Unfortunately i havent really looked for one for you yet. But i have a long day at work so ill do a little digging.

I looked on this site briefly. there isnt too much in your price range (1 laptop on this page)

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/gaming_laptops/page.asp

But it is decent if you dont mind taking it down to a 15.4" screen. I dunno. Its hard for me to find latops that ship to the uk seeing as how i live in the us and never bother to see if a site ships to the uk. This is just the first site i googled so im sure you can find better deals

Check my post about the laptop i was thinking of getting. It does meet those needs to a point. However it is an AMD based processor not Intel.

I don't think you've read all the posts properly. Re-read posts #1 and #7. Those parts will definitely not be available in a laptop costing 700 pounds.

why do you want a laptop???? With a 17" screen and all the good stuff to run games, its not exactly going to be portable is it? It'll weigh almost as much as a dang desktop anyway!

lol yea thing weighs 8.45pounds b4 putting an extra hard drive into it XD so it not really portable lol but the guy looking for the impossible so best to get something close

I think i will just sacrifice to get the Hp custom one i designed instead of getting the one in my post, much lighter but he the guy wants something to the specs he wants its gonna be as close as he gonna get.

hello all, thanks for your replies. i almost bought a laptop from ebay (but furtunately) i double checked with their forum and found out that the seller was a scam artist, and would have lost £800 for a dell xps 1710. anyhow.
the reason i want a laptop is a wanna start giging again and hence need the best screen i can find on a laptop (hence my preference to 1680x1050 17"screens and dual hard drives as am using ableton/cubase/traktor.
thats why the specs i want are basically that high. gaming on the go, hasnt to be tooo good, but atleast able to play e.g. gothic3/gta/ with medium to good specs, not superdupper oua. yeah would be nice to have all fx and details on but the system is mainly for music on the go, then linux/programming on the go and offcourse gaming.

The HP DV9500t, would be my ideal laptop i think (for my price range atleast), however HP dont seem to sell that in the UK. acer also has a aspire model i think 7520, which is ok, but then again its amd, and i believe they are at the moment a tiny bit slower.

also wanted to ask something about the dispute that currently nvidia cards series 8, need DX10 drives only. is that correct???? i though i can use them on e.g. xp with dx9. if not then acer model is out of the picture as i need the machine primarly for audio editing/performing.

anyhow, thanks all for ur replies. still though need a freakin laptop i want it i want it i want it (screaming histerical

thanks

ps: i read an article (though for a rock laptop) where the reviewer said that the nvidia 7600 was not any good for gaming??? i have on my main desktop still a radeon 9000 and e.g. i still can play nfs carbon (at medium settings). how can it be that a 2 generations better card is said to not provide playble framerates for nfs carbon, when it should normally in comparison to my 9000radeon, blow minds and eyes away???

anyhow

You should look at other HP laptops with similar specs. Your ideal HP DV9500t is sold in Great Britain under a slightly different model number due to some warranty and parts availability issues.
I do think that the better line of HP laptops will provide the best choice for you, but watch out for poor reliability and early screen failures of the lower priced ones.
The main reason I like them for gamers is their extra fans for moving air in and out, and their extra cooling channels. Avoid the super thin models. Examine anything you intend to buy. Do not buy anything online that you have not thoroughly checked for cooling channels and fans.

Look and learn

Well I got to disagree, I too repair and support laptops, with Toshiba, Compaq and some ACER models. It depends on what you get today. Most of the HP/compaq are showing that they're as good as spending over $1,000 bucks but from $499 to $799 laptops are lasting as long as they are. IBM thinkpads from model 43 and now with the current owner have shown to be crap! Not all Toshiba laptop are crap, you have to do some research but so far most model are holding up. ACER has some problems with connectors breaking sooner on the MoBO but you can get those repaird.

Right now if you got the money HP/Compaq are better than buying a DELL a lot of the newer DELL D620, D820 are just to new to tell if they're going to hold up. Prior models C series and D600/D800, D610/D810 were bad a lot of problems.

AMD Sempron Mobile, AMD Turion and AMD X2 are much better when tied together with ATI Mxxx PCI-Express for video. Just make sure when you get these newer laptops you'll need to get 12 cell battery instead of the 6 cell. I recommend 1GB of RAM and 160GB HDD. You can get by with 80GB or 120GB. Get wireless and wired network features. DL 8.5GB DVD+-RW drive. Newer models have Solid-state flash drives bays for SD/STick/Compact/etc.. Look for VGA/DVI or even HDMI.. Need PVR features look for models that have that. Digital Coax out or Optical Dolby Digital Sound out.

Don't buy Celeron models, why would you want something that was defective by IBM and now sold as cheaper off-shoot..

hi there dude, thanks for your quick reply. i cant stop but wonder though what u mean by a slighltly different model number??? i have checked the model on hp uk site and its not available, or any other that is similar to that model. i say i prefer that as i uses the nvidia 8 cards (8400 and 8600), hence my preference. all other details are found also on the other "ligher" hp models. if the cards were not dx9 compatible i would probably not consider it, but then again if someone tells me that i can play gothic 3 on that then ouiiiiiii. (as you can understand i love that game
anyhow, its just that i dont know where to turn nvidia 7 or 8, or intel amd.