I've recently been reinstalling some of the installed operating systems on my server, and rebuilding its RAID array, etc. One thing I have noticed is this: If I connect a virgin, clean install Windows XP (even with service pack 1 integrated) UNLESS I install Zone Alarm and anti-virus software first, MS Blaster fix, etc I instantly get: POP UP windows wanting to sell me things. POP UP windows wanting to sell me software to get rid of pop up windows. Infected trojans and worms. Porno internet browser pop ups. Someone else's BLASTER infected machine shutting me down. Particularly distressing was the infection of teekids, which by the looks of it happens almost as soon as an unpatched XP connected to the net at all. AND WITHOUT ME HAVING TO DO A THING! Then there was the multiple infected instances of svchosts, etc. The Internet just isn't the safe place to be it was when I first started using it in 1995/6. What I think now is that one has to install zone alarm, or something similar, patch with a good amount of the available fixes, and install anti-virus software (latest definitions) BEFORE CONNECTING TO THE INTERNET AT ALL?!?!?!?! Do you all experience this, or was I just unlucky? Has anyone with broadband installed their machine fresh with XP, 2000, etc just recently and had a similar experience?