Is cord-cutting losing its appeal as streaming becomes more expensive than cable?

I don't know anyone who subscribes to enough of the streaming services to spend $87/mo. As others have mentioned, I turn subs on and off for content. Disney+ for Mandalorian, Netflix for Witcher, Last Kingdom & The Crown, Hulu+ for the Olympics, etc. No need to keep any of them running full time.

Cable was the pits and I ripped out all of the coax years ago.
 
I laughed my butt off years ago when I first heard the term "cord-cutting." Honestly, it was always said by dolts. After all, the very people that chanted cord cutting were always connected by some type of "cord" to the internet anyway. Mostly older people thought they were stiffing cable companies, cable companies laughed as they raised internet prices.
 
Things cannot be generalized, for example:

1) there are countries (eg Spain) where the OTA free channels are very good; on the other side, in Germany or Portugal, they are few and bad. If OTA free channels are good, cable is a nonsense or very cheap (in my country, internet alone or cable with hundreds of channels (without extra premium channels) + internet, the difference is small)

2) no-one needs all subscriptions, even it's around 250€/year for two subscriptions (jumping between three or four), it's a very good value for a household. I pay for Prime, so the video is a bonus (free); additionally, you can pay a couple of months for a subscription, then stop and come back many months afterwards.

I think people is at a moment as they think they are "entitled" to have everything for free, as content producers had to make things for free... yes, I agree Netflix is pushing the limits, as the right price would be 10 to 12€/month for 4K HDR (standard nowadays) maximum and around 80€/year if paid in advance. But also "oh I'll go view piracy" seems also a very bad way to go over the customer's side...
 
Streaming will eat itself as it gets more expensive, thankfully in the UK we have Freeview+ which has tens of thousands of hours of free content.
 
Before I get into my rant, I have a question; "would you guys still "love me", if I changed my screen name from "captaincranky" to, "OTA TV?"

Moving on, since I'm a poor, ghetto dwelling old person, I get practically free internet from Verizon. In an ironic twist of fate, I had to "upgrade" my internet to pull it off. I used to have 100 Mbs, and got bumped to 300 Mbs, along with a new router. (And with free install to boot. (pun not intended)).

Anyway, I got "Verizon TV" with the package. Unfortunately, I lost OTA TV in the process, of the techs installing it in Roku from the interwebz. So, I had to "cut the cord" from the web to get TV..with an antenna again

Things were going along just fine, until I tripped a breaker, foolishly thinking I could ron a toaster oven and microwave on the same 20 amp line. (Which BTW, the TV was connected to as well. So, while I still had program and time listings, the tripped breaker took them out. I had to do a factory reset" on the TV to get the correct time and program listings back.

This illustrates everything that's wrong with "smart TVs".."Verizon TV" is essentially "cable TV" (with no premium channels). Once it's installed, you get locked out of OTA broadcasts. The only way I can figure to get around that, is to use a computer with a tuner & antenna, and feed it to the TV through an "aux" input.

I am totally enjoying the free internet though. It frees up the $60.00 bucks I need for insulin, syringes, and extra litter, that I need for my aging, lard a**ed, Maine coon cat. Sheez...."If it's not one thing, it's another". ("Rosanne Rosanna Dana").
 
It's because streaming services like Disney and Paramount made a few of their shows and movies exclusive to their own streaming service. Because Netflix is so evil. For example, you can watch NCIS on Netflix up to a certain point. The rest of the seasons you need to get Paramount. You use to be able to watch Star Trek on Netflix but Paramount pulled it and made it exclusive to their own streaming service. You won't be able to watch Star Wars on any other streaming service other than Disney+.

So by the time you get all the paid streaming services, yeah it will cost just as much as cable.
There is another option for watching most content and it, IMO, is far better than watching it on a streaming service. Personally, I get content I want to watch on DVD/Blu-ray/UHD Blu-ray from my local library at a price that cannot be beat - at most $0.50 for up to six-weeks of loan time. Some services, like Disney+ don't release content on disk such as the final season of The Clone Wars. Its their loss. But Paramount+ releases all their Star Trek shows, HBO released His Dark Materials, etc.
 
I just have basic cable because since the stupid FCC mandated digital broadcast (so they could sell the analog frequencies and make $$$) the over the air doesn't pick up where I am.
If it wasn't for the stuff I've already recorded movie wise, and channels like Grit, MeTv, AntennaTV, Cozi I wouldn't watch tv. Most of the stuff today is crap woke nonsense.
You are not the only once to have dodgy OTA reception. That should improve with ATSC 3.0. Leave it to engineers to take something and make it worse. Its because of ATSC 1.0's susceptibility to "multipath interference" the same thing that caused ghosting on TVs back in the analog days when an airplane flew overhead. ATSC 3.0 does not suffer from that, however, its incompatible with ATSC 1.0 meaning, wait for it, new equipment is necessary. However, most new TVs have tuners for it.
 
I laughed my butt off years ago when I first heard the term "cord-cutting." Honestly, it was always said by dolts. After all, the very people that chanted cord cutting were always connected by some type of "cord" to the internet anyway. Mostly older people thought they were stiffing cable companies, cable companies laughed as they raised internet prices.
It's not like that everywhere - some cable company charging outrageous fees because "they own the internet" in an area. In my region, there are several legitimate choices one independent service offering FTTH (I use this for 500 Mb/s symmetric $50/mo) another, Frontier, offering FTTH, and good old spectrum offering 200Mb/s down cable. The latter two come with some very big strings. The former, no strings attached. In some areas, where the politicians are not working for the internet providers, competition is driving costs down.
 
I laughed my butt off years ago when I first heard the term "cord-cutting." Honestly, it was always said by dolts. After all, the very people that chanted cord cutting were always connected by some type of "cord" to the internet anyway. Mostly older people thought they were stiffing cable companies, cable companies laughed as they raised internet prices.
And how much is your monthly bill?
 
This illustrates everything that's wrong with "smart TVs".."Verizon TV" is essentially "cable TV" (with no premium channels). Once it's installed, you get locked out of OTA broadcasts. The only way I can figure to get around that, is to use a computer with a tuner & antenna, and feed it to the TV through an "aux" input.
Not sure this will help, Captain, but there used to be A/B antenna switches - lo and behold they still exist - https://www.amazon.com/Network-Switch-Splitter-Antenna-Transfer/dp/B0018MJMJY I picked this one because it looks like it might be better than the mechanical ones, however, there are cheaper mechanical ones for $8.45 such as this one https://www.amazon.com/Coaxial-Game-Antenna-Cable-Switch/dp/B01MTQIQ86/

Cheers.

EDIT: Some TVs have multiple RF inputs these days - if that were an option, you would probably have figured that out. :)
 
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Watch what you wish for I suppose. Disney, et al are going to demand their pound of flesh, whether it be directly or indirectly.
 
EDIT: Some TVs have multiple RF inputs these days - if that were an option, you would probably have figured that out. :)
No, it only has one. That's not the issue that Roku is creating. It disconnects the 75 ohm line, as soon as the internet cable is plugged in. The "Live TV" option becomes the Verizon channel listing, without any option for an antenna input. Without interwebz, "live TV", is the antenna.

Which is why I say, using my computer with a TV tuner into an HDMI input, is the only way I have to get around it.

I'm hung up on "girl power process dramas" on "Start TV". They keep me up all night. I would like to have antenna and internet, if only to watch Jack Hanna when he was still lucid. (No, that wasn't very nice, I know).

"Saving Grace", (w/Holly Hunter), is about as funny and bizarre as cop shows get. So I bought t the 3 seasons DVD. Now ******* M$ has season 4 tied up in buy-me downloads.

I got my Windows 10 machine up and running. I still hate Windows 10, even more than before.. Not only that, but with 10, I'm told you can't image the SSD without having to reactivate. Along with other nonsense like linking your license to a Microsoft account before you even can reactivate.

This is a long, long, story. I should piss and moan about it in a PM.

Cheers..!..
 
No, it only has one. That's not the issue that Roku is creating. It disconnects the 75 ohm line, as soon as the internet cable is plugged in. The "Live TV" option becomes the Verizon channel listing, without any option for an antenna input. Without interwebz, "live TV", is the antenna.
Well, I guess you have to "cut the cord" then ;) somehow - maybe put a network switch next to your TV, feed the TV from it and when you want to watch OTA, pull the network cord out of the switch - though I bet you thought of something like this already. Drawbacks of a Roku TV, I guess. I'm glad I have to plans to "Go Roku".
Which is why I say, using my computer with a TV tuner into an HDMI input, is the only way I have to get around it.
Well there are "dongle" tuners, and there are also Network tuners from https://www.silicondust.com/ - whether the Roku TV would allow you to watch something from the network tuners, IDK..
I'm hung up on "girl power process dramas" on "Start TV". They keep me up all night. I would like to have antenna and internet, if only to watch Jack Hanna when he was still lucid. (No, that wasn't very nice, I know).

"Saving Grace", (w/Holly Hunter), is about as funny and bizarre as cop shows get. So I bought t the 3 seasons DVD. Now ******* M$ has season 4 tied up in buy-me downloads.

I got my Windows 10 machine up and running. I still hate Windows 10, even more than before.. Not only that, but with 10, I'm told you can't image the SSD without having to reactivate. Along with other nonsense like linking your license to a Microsoft account before you even can reactivate.
I'm not aware of having to "reactivate" windows 10 on an image restore - then again I use this - https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-linux/ In fact, I did a restore of a Windows 10 PC a couple of weeks ago from an image of the PC's boot drive I created in December 2022 using that exact software (don't let the name throw you - it can be used likely for almost any OS). What was restored never asked me to reactivate - even though it was in the same "state" it was in when I backed it up in December. So, I've done Win 10 restores from system images and I have never had to reactivate Windows 10. Maybe there are other ways of doing an image restore where you have to reactivate - however, I can definitely state that using the software at the link, reactivating is not necessary. I do restores to the same hardware, though.
This is a long, long, story. I should piss and moan about it in a PM.
Well, I guess I'm violating protocol! :laughing:
 
It's not like that everywhere - some cable company charging outrageous fees because "they own the internet" in an area. In my region, there are several legitimate choices one independent service offering FTTH (I use this for 500 Mb/s symmetric $50/mo) another, Frontier, offering FTTH, and good old spectrum offering 200Mb/s down cable. The latter two come with some very big strings. The former, no strings attached. In some areas, where the politicians are not working for the internet providers, competition is driving costs down.
FWIW, getting Spectrum in central NC 500 Mbps only (I.e. no strings) for $80.
I use a separate Roku dongle that just plugs into an HDMI port on the TV for streaming, so no messing around with anything else plugged into the TV.
YMMV...
 
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FWIW, getting Spectrum in central NC 500 Mbps only (I.e. no strings) for $80.
I use a separate Roku dongle that just plugs into an HDMI port on the TV for streaming, so no messing around with anything else plugged into the TV.
YMMV...
Thanks for the tip, however, this was @captaincranky s dilemma. I do not have the difficulty, and don't even have Roku. However, captaincranky has a Roku TV which, apparently, kills the RF (OTA) tuner when you have a network cable plugged in - if I am reading his description correctly. If he were to get an HDMI Roku dongle, this sounds like it would solve his issue - assuming the roku TV has an HDMI input.
 
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FWIW, getting Spectrum in central NC 500 Mbps only (I.e. no strings) for $80.
I use a separate Roku dongle that just plugs into an HDMI port on the TV for streaming, so no messing around with anything else plugged into the TV.
YMMV...
In my case, that would be "putting the cart before the horse. My last TV was a "dumb TV and I already have a "step up" Roku device with a wired internet port, and a "talk into me" remote to go with it. AFAIK, the dongles are wi-fi only. (or ?),

What I'm trying to do is, "have my cake and eat it too", by letting Verizon install their proprietary OS into the TV.

My workaround would be an external TV tuner into an HDMI port.

I already have a machine with a TV tuner installed. But, it's big, it's ugly, and it's blocking part of the left channel of my speakers.
 
People will just go back to pirating. People are willing to pay what they're willing(and able) to pay. I canceled Netflix when they went woke, I'll never pay for cable again and the only things I'm really interested in are hockey games and American football. And to watch my favorite sports ball games I can either walk around the corner to the bar or go over my friends house. Very little about watching the game is about watching the game anyway. Frankly, most of the fun of watching sports ball is the crowd experience and you can't buy that from the cable company at any price.
We cancelled both Netflix and Disney because of the woke agendas. It's important to consider what your children are exposed to nowadays. I don't want my kids growing up on Disney and allowing nostalgia to set in like I did and then for most of the classics to now somehow become "racist" or not woke enough so they have to write a warning about it. Hopefully more people realise how dangerous this agenda is. There is no truth in woke.
 
Thanks for the tip, however, this was @captaincranky s dilemma. I do not have the difficulty, and don't even have Roku. However, captaincranky has a Roku TV which, apparently, kills the RF (OTA) tuner when you have a network cable plugged in - if I am reading his description correctly. If he were to get an HDMI Roku dongle, this sounds like it would solve his issue - assuming the roku TV has an HDMI input.
To know that I said what I said, and its meaning is comprehensible to others, is gratifying indeed. (y) (Y)Functional literacy is my one "grand achievement". (Hey, it's not much, but it's really all I have to crow about.

That said, an external Roku device won't solve the issue, but rather compound it. All it would give me is two Roku devices, and still no OTA TV.

As for having to reactivate Windows after imaging a drive, you certainly don't have to do that with 7. However, "the internet experts" are claiming the M$ reads the serial number of the drives, and will require reactivation. My, "master plan", (starting with 3 NVme drives, 500 MB, 1 TB, & 2 TB for 2 slots), was to2 install W 10 to the 500 MB, image C:/ to the 1 TB, and install the 2 TB as storage..

So, M$ won't let you run its, "media creation tool", or Windows 7 anymore. Of course they don't have the ballz to tell you that. They merely set it to run in "compatibility mode, for XP SP-2".

So, I had a bogus DVD of 10, which I had to install to run the tool. When I tried to activate the DVD with the product key in the package, I was told, "those letters can't be in the product key." I still managed to burn an image (H22 or sumpin), with it.........and then.......the fiasco got progressively worse from there

See my post above for more info... (If you feel so disposed). No harm if you don't.

Cheers.
 
Since I started streaming I have saved a lot of money because I only like the free stuff.
 
People will just go back to pirating. People are willing to pay what they're willing(and able) to pay. I canceled Netflix when they went woke, I'll never pay for cable again and the only things I'm really interested in are hockey games and American football. And to watch my favorite sports ball games I can either walk around the corner to the bar or go over my friends house. Very little about watching the game is about watching the game anyway. Frankly, most of the fun of watching sports ball is the crowd experience and you can't buy that from the cable company at any price.
what do you mean "go back to pirating"?

I never left

anyone with a molecule of smarts knew that streaming would just end up a more expensive version of cable.
 
what do you mean "go back to pirating"?

I never left

anyone with a molecule of smarts knew that streaming would just end up a more expensive version of cable.
Piracy went down significantly when streaming was introduced because people are willing to pay for convenience. Piracy started to go back up because it was less convenient to have multiple streaming services. Then the streaming services started raising their prices so password sharing became a thing. Streaming services started to crack down on password sharing and now we are starting to see a resurgence in Piracy.

The thing is, streaming services started to squeeze people. They started slowly raising rates, limiting features and fragmenting their services. If I want to watch something it's now easier for me to go to a pirate site than search for which streaming service has it available. Further, shows bounce around on streaming services. Some shows have some seasons on one service and other seasons on the other service.

The state of streaming is that it is now more expensive than it was initially, offers less and is less convenient than pirating. If there is a show I want to watch in all it's glory I will sub to a streaming service because there is DRM in HDMI that prevents a show from looking its best coming from a PC. This is a major reason TVs don't have DisplayPort connectors even though DisplayPort is the better connector in nearly everyway. So, yes, if I want to watch something to make my $5000 TV look it's best I'll pay $20 for a month to watch it.

And, to be honest, I don't even really watch TV anymore. I mostly watch engineering and science content on YouTube for free.
 
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The thing is, streaming services started to squeeze people. They started slowly raising rates, limiting features and fragmenting their services.
This is the underhanded trick of the automobile insurance carriers as well. You get a "bargain" when you first sign up, and then year after year you get a much higher priced "bargain", (usually in suppository form), every year you stay with them thereafter.

Well, you can cancel streaming services, but cancelling your car insurance is generally frowned upon by every DMV that I'm aware of.

Hey, those TV car insurance ads cost big bucks..
 
You get a "bargain" when you first sign up, and then year after year you get a much higher priced "bargain", (usually in suppository form), every year you stay with them thereafter.
Wait, the suppository costs extra? I thought it was the same price
 
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