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Laptop error 0x0000004E

Discussion in 'Windows BSOD, Freezing, Restarting Help' started by Xclusiveitalian, Mar 16, 2009.

  1. kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    I'll send you my free email that I never use
    And await your response :)
  2. RonS WIN TEAM Newcomer, in training Posts: 41

    Hi kimsland - just shot that e-mail off for you. Figured I'd let you know here since you don't check that e-mail often.

    Cheers,

    Ron
    Windows Outreach Team
  3. kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    Sorry I'll reply in about 5mins (maybe 10 ;))

    Thanks,

    By the way not satisfied yet, but that's why it's taking me 10mins, you'll see my new Microsoft email come up ;) ;)
  4. Xclusiveitalian TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 587   +13

    I attached those files requested, if its not a virus or malware etc, maybe its hardware? maybe hardware damaged of some type, maybe even from a virus?
  5. kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    I have successfully created a Microsoft email account
    And emailed RonS WIN TEAM with my details

    Obviously just having Microsoft.com in your email, does not automatically prove that you are a Microsoft employee. ! I am now waiting on his return email...

    @Xclusiveitalian presently I do not have the time to check your logs
    I am hoping Bobbye may check this for you, sorry for the interruption
  6. Bobbye Helper on the Fringe Posts: 16,406   +16

    1. Make sure all your drivers are up to date and you have installed all the latest critical updates from Windows update.

    2. Enter the BIOS at startup and look for a hardware monitor or PC health status screen. Please report your temps, fan speeds and voltages (+3.3, +5 and +12V) from there.

    3. Enter the device manager (start => run => devmgmt.msc), go to view => show hidden devices. Report if there are any flagged devices in the list.

    Check the Event Viewer for errors happening at the time of the crashes :
    Start> Run> type in eventvwr
    Please review this:
    The system memory that is reported in the System Information dialog box in Windows Vista is less than you expect if 4 GB of RAM is installed:
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605

    Note the requirements for 4GB of memory

    We also have another user with the same problem currently trying to resolve. Please see this:
    • Run HijackThis
    • Click on the System Scan Only button
    • Put a check beside all of the items listed below (if present):
    • Close all open windows and browsers/email, etc...
    • Click on the "Fix Checked" button

    • When completed, close the application.

    Boot into Safe Mode:
    Start> Run> msconfig> enter> Selective Startup> Startup menu> UNCHECK the following:
    Any entries noted to be associated with launcher.exe as mentioned above.
    Any entries related to Viewpoint

    Start> Run> services.msc> double click on Viewpoint Service> change Startup type to Disabled.

    Control Panel> Add/Remove Programs> UNINSTALL:
    any Viewpoint entries

    Tools> Manage Add-on> find the System requirement add-on and highlight (may be sysreqlab)> Disable.

    Reboot into Normal Mode: NOTE: the first boot after making changes on Startup brings up as nag message- you can ignore this and close after checking 'don't show this message again.' Stay in Selective Startup
    ***System Requirements Lab ActiveX Control Code Execution Vulnerability:
    http://secunia.com/Advisories/32236/
    Take it off of startup and disable the Active X component until you get it patched.

    *****Note: launcher.exe is an executable belonging to many applications including Webshots- a Windows desktop downloader, Uinterface Mouselaunch- a file and application initiator, and also a hardware interface for Samsung products. Pre-loaded on HP Vista systems.
    launcher.exe is an advertising program by Intercort Systems. This process monitors your browsing habits and distributes the data back to the author's servers for analysis. This also prompts advertising popups. This process is a security risk and should be removed from your system.


    Please up and rescan with HijackThis when finished and attach new log.
     
  7. RonS WIN TEAM Newcomer, in training Posts: 41

    Hi kimsland,

    If you do contact the e-mail address that I provided in that note you will get all the verification anyone could ever want.

    Cheers,
    Ron
    Windows Outreach Team
  8. kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    Fine I'll email the supervisor and CC you as well
    I don't expect much in return, but you never know.
  9. Xclusiveitalian TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 587   +13

    ugh this laptop ugh, srry i havent been able to reply, school, and then everytime i tried replying my laptop would restart almost as if it knos im trying to get help...like it knows 0.o its so strange, anyway, Im not sure where to go for the bios to check temp, i checked the hardware and there all fine except the battery which is "fair" and yellow, i think it says i may want to consider getting a new battery but I dont believe it is the battery causing it bc i never unplug my laptop, and the problem always happens while the laptop is still plugged in. I just had the problem 5 min ago and took these 2 screenshots if u can look at them and giv me an opinion i think they are connected with these problems. I attached them below. The attached screenshots are from the event log after the shutdown. I had the problem happen to me twice while i was updating windows through windows update, while at the same time updating McAfee. Mcafee prompted me that a whole section of things were disabled such as Im protection and email protection but none the less that has nothing to do i believe with these problems esp. viewing passed events but i had that "fixing" the problems through mcafee at the same time as those updates when all of a sudden, screen went black and it restarted. please get back to me whenever you can, thanks.

    Edit: 4/15/09 5:43 pm : didnt want to double post, i was wondering if maybe i should restore my laptop again, would that help? Maybe if i put the 1 gb back in of my previous ram, restore it and then after updating and etc, re-upgrade again with the 4gb maybe will make it better? I really feel its vista thats the problem, or the hardware. Im going to find this other problem i used along time ago and check the temp of my laptop and ill post it here when i get it. thanks again guys.

    Edit: 6:13pm:
    GPU:64c
    Core: 55c
    I used the program Speedfan:
    5 min later:
    GPU:69c
    Core: 61c
    Seems to be really hot
    Averages temps are
    GPU:61-68c
    Core: 52-69c
    From what i watched.

    I always have my laptop on top of this thing that is ment to cool my laptop, it has to fans n u plug it into the usb and it turns these fan on and keeps the bottom cool, so im suprised there so hot bc those fans are always on.

    Edit: The problem has to be overheating
    my gpu and core nearly hit 80c when updating mcafee than it did the shut down and reboot, and during reboot, didnt even get to the password screen and rebooted again perhaps bc it was still to hot?
  10. Bobbye Helper on the Fringe Posts: 16,406   +16

    I can't tell much from the infprmation images you attached. In at least one case, it is NOT an Error event but just Information logging on what is going on in the system. You also need to resize the columns in the logs to make sure the full Error IS# shows. You do this be holding the left mouse button down on the dividing line in the frame above the column and moving it to the right to expand the column.

    It would seem that whatever you're relying on to cool the laptop isn't working. How is it that there is no internal fan?

    Event ID 100
    Source Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance
    Type Information
    Description Windows has started
    Boot Duration : <duration>
    IsDegradation : <status>
    Incident Time (UTC) : <date> <time>.
  11. Xclusiveitalian TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 587   +13

    I have no idea where to check my internal fan, idk even if i have one, dont they come standard with all notebooks? I have to have one i looked at the bottom of my laptop and there are vents, maybe the fan was damaged? My laptop takes a long time to start up, i have edited the msconfig startup and only a few standard things boot up, like mcafee, and aol, but it takes like a long time no matter what happens, even after an error still takes a good amount of time to start up tho i have never timed it i have stared at a black screen with my cursor showing a loading icon to long. I always thought this cooling fan pad on the bottom of my laptop was more as a "extra" then a nessesary. Also i was looking at my error logging and i see a row of about 10 or more errors in a row, im guessing from 1 or maybe 2-3 of these unexpected shutdowns that occurd in a row, such as on restartup after crashing it does it again and again i hate it then i never get back on my laptop.
  12. Bobbye Helper on the Fringe Posts: 16,406   +16

    Okay, I want you to do some research. You need to become more familiar with your computer.

    IF the Errors have the same ID#, the same Source and the same Description, copy one of them.
    For any that are different, copy each of them.
    Paste here. Errors only.
    I have found the following pages for you to check:
    HP Pavilion dv6604nr Entertainment Notebook PC: Manuals:
    Reducing Heat and Fan Noise by Cleaning Air Vents:
    Fan Runs Constantly, the PC Operates Slower than Expected and Generates Heat:
    Product Specifications:
    Did you check the type of memory before you added it? Is it the correct type?

    You will find images of the system and instructions in them for cleaning the vents. Please check these pages, read the information, apply anything specific to your problem, then come back and reply with the results. Hopefully we can get back on track. Right now, I am not certain where to look.

    Did you follow my instructions in Reply #26?
    I suggest you do NOT do another "destructive restore". Every time you do that puts the system back to 'out of the box' state, essentially undoing everything. We need to get some stability so we can find the problem.
  13. Xclusiveitalian TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 587   +13

    i attached a file with the error information, the copy button was on the right side, not on the bottom left, perhaps were thinking different things?
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    I got my information for a ram update from this site and if you search my name you'll see another post of my ram update, i asked what type i should get and updating from 1gb to 4gb and if i could, etc it is all in that other forum. Ram is the correct type tho.
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    My vents are always kept very clean, well, they never get to dusty.
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    Im good with alot of info on my computer, Iv updated it often, and went to the hp site and updated the bios twice in the computer history one very recently to the newest.

    I was just unsure about my fan, to be honest i dont hear it often now that i think of it (you know that loud fan spinning fast noise)
    Edit: Upon restarting my computer i heard no fan whatsoever, very strange...

    Edit2: I hear my fan very lighty, maybe is there a way to speed it up, maybe cooling my computer down will help it, bc it barely runs hard and to be honest it needs to cool this baby down, it seems like its really hot.
  14. Bobbye Helper on the Fringe Posts: 16,406   +16

  15. Xclusiveitalian TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 587   +13

    I dont recognize that... Im using Vista home premium, and I go to control panel/system and maintence/performace information and tools/(on the side bar under tasks)Advanced tools/View performance details and events
  16. Bobbye Helper on the Fringe Posts: 16,406   +16

    Sorry- I've been using that link for a while. I had not realized it stated 'for beta version'. Apparently the Copy location was changed and is more like Windows XP.

    Event ID 100
    Source Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance

    Date: 4/19/2009 3:23:01 AM
    Event ID 203
    Source Diagnostic-Performance

    Event ID: 106
    Source: Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance

    Unfortunately, it appears that you haven't deleted old logs. The only current Event is ID#100 and it is a normal Information entry logging what the system is doing. Click on Action> Clear logs for each log section.

    If you are overclocking and/or running multiple high resources programs at the same time, that could account for the increased heat.
  17. Xclusiveitalian TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 587   +13

    I dont know how to overclock anything lol plus i heard it could damage anything you overclock if you dont know how to use it...like me lol Actually i just started my computer and my GPU was 60-68 and the core was 50-58, both very hot, isnt the desired 45ish? I didnt have anything running and I checked it right away. Srry for the old logs, the problem happens so often it drives me crazy, yesterday I couldnt get on my laptop for 20 min has i started up this was the sequence, i started it up as it ws started up the screen goes extra dark, and then restarts, it then restarts as it restarts that screen comes up saying it failed to shut down properly and if i want to run system repair or sometimes, start in safe mode or run normally. i had to get a paper done for school and I was so desperate i actually had to remove half my ram in hopes it would start up and it did, thankfully. Ram cant be the problem, ugh i dont understand it as much as i thought i did.
  18. Bobbye Helper on the Fringe Posts: 16,406   +16

    IT sounds like you are having major hardware problems. If you continue to use the system as is, the overheating will eventually damage the components. But I still don't have any more to go on!

    It is also possible you are heading for hard drive failure. If you have files you don't want to lose, be sure thy are backed up- in case.
  19. Xclusiveitalian TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 587   +13

    thanks, i do have everything backed up. Not to be bias against hp, but this has happened to me before, is it just me or does hp quality dropped? i just dont understand why it is so hot, i need or better yet wish i could control the fan bc even rigt now its how and im not doing anything n i would like to hear that fan rolling i dont mind, funny how i read with this laptop people have problems were they cant get there fan to stop, guess mine is lazy o.0 If anyone knows a program (besides speedfan) that lets you control fan speed easily, please give me a link id love to give it a try, it cant hurt. With summer coming soon, my laptop will soon look like the sun....
  20. kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    Xclusiveitalian I have removed your quotes from every post you make
    You only need to press Post Reply when replying to the previous message, as that is what you are replying to in the first place.

    Do not press Quote button, unless you need to quote one specific area of the previous post, which normally does not happen either.
    I have included SNGX1275 Guide to Making a Good Post/Thread and I am quoting the specific area of concern to you.