Leak suggests the RTX 4060 will have 8GB of VRAM and fewer CUDA cores than RTX 3060

[Daniel Sims]

Why it matters: As the specs and release period for Nvidia's GeForce RTX 4070 start to take shape, people are understandably looking ahead to the RTX 4060, arguably the most crucial member of the Ada Lovelace lineup. However, a recent leak indicates that some of its specs might be slightly lower than expected. The VRAM, in particular, might be a problem, given how much some recent games appear to use.

Trusted leaker kopite7kimi posted his latest information on the specs for the desktop GeForce RTX 4060 this week, and they look remarkably similar to the laptop variant. In several areas, the GPU's numbers look lower than its predecessor, the RTX 3060. Possibly most striking is that the RTX 4060 may only include 8GB of VRAM. The RTX 3060 has 12GB (oddly more than the RTX 3070's 8GB).

Furthermore, some recent releases have raised concerns regarding how much video memory high-end future PC games may need. Performance analysis of Hogwarts Legacy from TechPowerUp suggests the game eats up at least 10GB of VRAM for most users and up to 14GB with ray tracing enabled. The Dead Space remake also has problems with sub-12GB graphics cards in certain situations.

RTX 4060 still uses PG190.
AD107-400-A1
3072FP32
8G GDDR6 18Gbps
115W
24M L2

I will try to remain neutral about any leaks in the future. 😁😁😁

— kopite7kimi (@kopite7kimi) February 13, 2023

If future releases have similar issues, low VRAM could be an anchor around some of the most popular new and upcoming GPUs. Flagships like the RTX 4090 get a lot of hype, but Steam charts show that XX50 and XX60-level cards are the most popular for their affordability. The RTX 4060 will likely be the top Ada Lovelace seller. In any case, mid-range graphics card users should already be lowering their graphics settings and using DLSS or FSR to lighten the VRAM load.

However, what's also concerning is that kopite7kimi's desktop RTX 4060 specs show it has an identical CUDA core count, Tensor core count, ray tracing core count, and TDP as the laptop version. It also uses the same AD107 GPU as the laptop RTX 4060. Those specs are lower than the desktop RTX 3060, bringing its successor's performance in some areas into question.

While the desktop RTX 4060's clock speed is still unknown, it will have faster RAM than the RTX 3060. Previous rumors suggested the RTX 4060 will reach RTX 3070 Ti-like performance.

Maybe most importantly, we still don't know the RTX 4060's price. For comparison, the RTX 3060 launched at $330. Nvidia should pick a price that establishes a comfortable upgrade path for those still using GTX 1060s or GTX 1650s. Judging by the system requirements for recent games, those cards won't handle AAA games for much longer.

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[yannus]

I easily imagine a 499 $ for the 4060. Ngreedia will strike again, no doubt.

 

[nnguy2]

Nvidia stopped pretending about caring. They're fleecing you right to your face and laughing all the way to the bank because you people keep buying their $hit.

 

[Julnor]

For that price you can get a PS5, and that's with all the other components. GPU is only one component for PC. Just really makes no sense right now from any type of budget oriented mindset.

Also tbh Hogwarts Legacy doesn't even run well on PC right now. The drivers aren't there and neither are the game optimizations. Maybe in a year or so it will be, but that time is not now.

 

[Shear]

"WTF is happening? Why are people not too keen on buying our new GPUs?.. What do you mean they are too expensive? Make the 4070 4060 into a piece of **** we need to make sure the big boys look better... "

Cool...

 

[yRaz]

The 4090 never existed, it was always a 4080 based on die size. Now what we have is essentially a $500 50 class card

 

[brucek]

Nvidia heard our complaints about the laptop "4090" not matching the desktop version, and solved the problem for the 4060. Nvidia cares!

 

[pcnthuziast]

Outdoor activities are more fun than playing video games.
Upset about the rising costs of high end pc gaming?
Find a new hobby. Gaming is overrated. Reality is much more rewarding!

 

[Eldritch]

Last great xx60 was 1060 which was sublime mix of specs and price by a company who actually tried to cater to it's consumers. Sadly that company is gone now and we have to deal with Ngreedia now. 8 GB VRAM in 2023 is not even funny let alone cutting CUDA cores and simultaneously hiking prices. What a disgrace!

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Keep crying about 40XX cards ... especially the ones that haven't been released and reviewed as of yet.

GTX 1080 Ti MSRP: $700
RTX 2080 Ti MSRP: $1000
RTX 3080 Ti MSRP: $1200
RTX 3090 MSRP: $1500
RTX 3090 Ti MSRP: $2000
RTX 4070 Ti MSRP: $800
RTX 4080 MSRP: $1200
RTX 4090 MSRP: $1600

 

[Nobina]

Lol! Where's that ***** pretending wE wAnT RTX 4090 for $100 now?

 

[hahahanoobs]

Shrinkflation.

 

[ChipBoundary]

I love how everyone here is making assumptions based on the number of cores and VRAM. If it outperforms prior generations, that's all that matters. The bottom line, the raw production numbers. I just honestly do not get people and their logic sometimes. Nvidia and AMD are guilty of a lot of things, but this ain't it.

 

[Lew Zealand]

Keep crying about 40XX cards ... especially the ones that haven't been released and reviewed as of yet.

GTX 1080 Ti MSRP: $700
RTX 2080 Ti MSRP: $1000
RTX 3080 Ti MSRP: $1200
RTX 3090 MSRP: $1500
RTX 3090 Ti MSRP: $2000
RTX 4070 Ti MSRP: $800
RTX 4080 MSRP: $1200
RTX 4090 MSRP: $1600

Wow, bravo on the cherrypicking!

Try this:

GTX 1070 Ti MSRP: $450
RTX 2070 S MSRP: $500
RTX 3070 Ti MSRP: $600
RTX 4070 Ti MSRP: $800

GTX 1080 MSRP: $600
RTX 2080 MSRP: $700
RTX 3080 MSRP: $700
RTX 4080 MSRP: $1200

RTX 3090 MSRP: $1500
RTX 4090 MSRP: $1600

The 80 and 90 Ti tiers aren't available yet. Don't worry, those prices will increase commensurately as Nvidia is in this to make as much money as possible like everyone else.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Wow, bravo on the cherrypicking!

Try this:

GTX 1070 Ti MSRP: $450
RTX 2070 S MSRP: $500
RTX 3070 Ti MSRP: $600
RTX 4070 Ti MSRP: $800

GTX 1080 MSRP: $600
RTX 2080 MSRP: $700
RTX 3080 MSRP: $700
RTX 4080 MSRP: $1200

RTX 3090 MSRP: $1500
RTX 4090 MSRP: $1600

The 80 and 90 Ti tiers aren't available yet. Don't worry, those prices will increase commensurately as Nvidia is in this to make as much money as possible like everyone else.

RTX 3070 Ti 8GB vs RTX 4070 Ti 12GB

 

[James Ryan]

Outdoor activities are more fun than playing video games.
Upset about the rising costs of high end pc gaming?
Find a new hobby. Gaming is overrated. Reality is much more rewarding!

Gaming is my winter activity. You won't catch me dead inside when it's not cold and crap outside...

 

[Lew Zealand]

RTX 3070 Ti 8GB vs RTX 4070 Ti 12GB

The 4070 Ti is definitely a faster card than the 3070 Ti, it would have been embarrassing if it hadn't been. And 2 years later it's all of a 10.5% better deal than the 3070 Ti. That's disappointingly small, which is the point:

 

[takaozo]

128 bit bus and 8GB buffer will make a good futureproof investment for $500.

(sarcasm)

in the past 192 bit and 6 GB was ok for Pascal, for Touring 6GB is too low sometimes with FHD or QHD.
This 4060 will meet a wall no matter how fast it is now.

 

[Threadcount]

It will have DLSS 3, so fake frames win games, at this rate we will not be playing games in the future. DLSS 5 will predict how you will play, just sit back and enjoy the slideshow.

 

[neeyik]

I love how everyone here is making assumptions based on the number of cores and VRAM. If it outperforms prior generations, that's all that matters.

It's more a case of how much better it performs compared to the 3060, though. With just 3072 CUDA cores, it will need to have a Boost clock of at least 2.1 GHz to pull ahead in terms of FP32 throughput. It will certainly have a much higher clock rate than that but it will need to be at least 2.6 GHz to be 25% better. At least, the memory bandwidth reduction, compared to the 12GB version of the 3060, isn't an issue, as the much larger L2 cache will offset this.

 

[R00sT3R]

Anyone would think Nvidia are tuning these low end cards (anything below 4090) with planned in obsolescence after 2yrs....I mean, in 2yrs time, specs like this means they will perform so terribly with new release games people will just want to throw more money at them to upgrade.

..or am I just being cynical.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

The 4070 Ti is definitely a faster card than the 3070 Ti, it would have been embarrassing if it hadn't been. And 2 years later it's all of a 10.5% better deal than the 3070 Ti. That's disappointingly small, which is the point:

The 4070 Ti is faster than the 3090 at 1440P.

 

[Enaks]

..or am I just being cynical.

If you are then I’m guilty of the same crime

If this card is £500-£550 and makes me itch for an upgrade after 18 mths, I’d certainly be tempted to spend £1000+ to upgrade far less frequently

 

[Lounds]

I think at 1440p to 4K the 3070 will be faster and I can see the 3060ti beating it at 4k resolutions. At 1080p the 4060 will be 3070ti with similar RT performance but I think RT performance will drop past 1440p.

 

[moon982]

The 4090 never existed, it was always a 4080 based on die size. Now what we have is essentially a $500 50 class card

The 4000s series card are going to go down the worse in nvidia history. The tech was clearly not there at all where nvidia should of waited a year or two.

It clear little engineering gone into these cards they just up the wattage and drawing more power.

All the tech websites are going to drool over the 4080 and 4090 that takes a power station to run it. Is just beyond worse tech engineering in history of nvidia. Even Intel CPUs and AMD CPUs nickname space heaters don’t get this bad and drawing that much power and heat.

It it is clear on size and power the 4090 is the 4080.

And base reports here the 4060 is going to be par with 3050 not 3060 is beyond worse I seen of nvidia in history.

Most folks should just buy the 3000s cards and skip this over price and worse cards in nvidia history

There is nothing interesting about the 4000s series csrds other than takes power station to run it and card bigger than most mini and bid computer cases.