Marc Andreessen publishes manifesto: slowing down AI development is murder, population...

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What just happened? Billionaire venture capitalist Marc Andreessen has just published his 5,200-word Techno-Optimist Manifesto in which he makes several bold claims. These include an accusation that slowing down AI development is akin to committing murder, that technology can solve the world's climate problems, and that the global population can easily expand to 50 billion people before we settle on other planets.

Should you have a lot of spare time, you can check out Andreessen's 15-part manifesto, which is written with poem-style line breaks, right here.

The work covers several subjects, including the current hot topic of AI. Andreessen believes the technology has the ability to fix many causes of death, such as car crashes, pandemics, and friendly fire.

There have been plenty of calls for a slowdown in AI development and the introduction of tighter regulation in the industry - even OpenAI boss Sam Altman and Elon Musk agree something should be done. Andreessen, on the other hand, warns that any deceleration of AI will cost lives. "Deaths that were preventable by the AI that was prevented from existing is a form of murder," he writes, having previously slammed the possibility of AI regulation by the US government.

The investor goes on to highlight sustainability, social responsibility, socialism, and risk management as enemies of technology and life, part of a demoralization campaign. He also says, "Our enemies are not bad people – but rather bad ideas," though he seems quite upset at Communists, Luddites, people with victim mentalities, and "cartels."

Andreessen calls the threats technology poses to jobs, wages, inequality, children, etc., "lies." While it is true that more studies show artificial intelligence will likely augment more positions than it replaces, generative AI tools are costing people their jobs, as we have seen on several occasions.

"The myth of Prometheus – in various updated forms like Frankenstein, Oppenheimer, and Terminator – haunts our nightmares," he writes.

The author has some controversial views on the global population, too. He says that the planet is dramatically underpopulated, the opposite view of many researchers, and that it could quite easily expand to 50 billion people or more before humanity settles on other planets. "We believe the ultimate mission of technology is to advance life both on Earth and in the stars."

"We are not primitives, cowering in fear of the lightning bolt," Andreessen writes. "We are the apex predator; the lightning works for us."

The manifesto finishes by asking others to join the Techno-Optimism revolution. Andreessen states that "The water is warm" (and possibly spiked with LSD). It's also noted that the views expressed are Andreessen's own and not those of his venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz or its affiliates.

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50 billion humans on this planet sounds like a dystopian nightmare. You are not going to simply build a new city in the middle of the desert and put people there because that's where the space is. You're just going to turn existing conurbations into true to life Judge Dredd comic books. The only way to create the food and water required for just double the current population is ridiculous amounts of energy and automation beyond imagination. We're practically tapped out now. That's only been accomplished by using millions of years worth of energy stored in the fossil fuel bank, which is an account now rapidly emptying.

Soil degradation is horrendous. Nobody wants to build a nuclear power plant even if you provide endless evidence they're safe and extremely energy dense. They want to put wind farms and solar panels all over viable farm land and coastlines.

We are a stupidly arrogant species that think we can deliberately terraform the heck out of our planet for manageable cost to our quality of life. Apparently we believe we understand what adverse effects that might have globally long term and most egregious of all- control them. We have proven endlessly that we cannot.
 
Sure.... 50 billions... and they all will come to Canada... and since we don't have any spare housing, the rent will skyrocket to 10 000$ a month...

What a bunch of nonsense, we don't even have enough resources for the current humans. It is obvious that these words are coming from a billionaire...
 
Just goes to show once again, having a lot of money dosen't mean one has brains or knows when to keep their mouth shut ....
IMO, perhaps the problem is that people listen to people like this only because they have amassed significant amounts of money, and somehow, their money equates to brains in the eyes of those who listen to people like this. If people stopped listening to people like this, the problem would go away because there would no audience to placate their egos.
 
50 billion humans on this planet sounds like a dystopian nightmare. You are not going to simply build a new city in the middle of the desert and put people there because that's where the space is. You're just going to turn existing conurbations into true to life Judge Dredd comic books. The only way to create the food and water required for just double the current population is ridiculous amounts of energy and automation beyond imagination. We're practically tapped out now. That's only been accomplished by using millions of years worth of energy stored in the fossil fuel bank, which is an account now rapidly emptying.

We are NEVER going to go above 10 Bill, we might not even hit 8.
China is already going through population collapse and most countries are not maintaining 2.1 kids per family.
Russia's war with Ukraine was one of the most self destructive things it could have done.

The only reason the population in the US is climbing is immigration. the population already here is not maintaining at all.

Best estimates show that over the next 50 - 200 years you will see us (everyone in the world) drop back down to 3 billion or so maybe less.

Right now we are at the peak human population.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a43351160/global-population-shortage/

 
We are NEVER going to go above 10 Bill, we might not even hit 8.
China is already going through population collapse and most countries are not maintaining 2.1 kids per family.
Russia's war with Ukraine was one of the most self destructive things it could have done.

The only reason the population in the US is climbing is immigration. the population already here is not maintaining at all.

Best estimates show that over the next 50 - 200 years you will see us (everyone in the world) drop back down to 3 billion or so maybe less.

Right now we are at the peak human population.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a43351160/global-population-shortage/
I don't know where you got the dropping to 3 billion estimate from.
The UN estimate shows in their projections that by 2085 the population will be stabilizing at a bit over 10 billion.
https://ourworldindata.org/population-projections
The effects beyond that have so many variables I suspect it would at best be a guess as to whether the population declines and to what degree.
 
I don't know where you got the dropping to 3 billion estimate from.
The UN estimate shows in their projections that by 2085 the population will be stabilizing at a bit over 10 billion.
https://ourworldindata.org/population-projections
The effects beyond that have so many variables I suspect it would at best be a guess as to whether the population declines and to what degree.
I've done a fair bit of reading on the subject the odds are that if trends continue we will never get above 8.5 bil. 10 bil is highly optimistic.

Expectation for some academians is stabilize around 1/2 where we are now and hitting that number might be faster than most people expect.

Go ahead and google it and you get a lot of numbers
 
This is a dude who isn't so much drinking his own Kool-Aid, as he is drowning in it.
More likely, he's shooting up with it. Quick, off to the rehab facility with him.

I know y'all are thinking, is this guy nutz? I'd say that's pretty much a given..

Anyhoo, this is what turns out when you send a fat kid with an enormous egg shaped head to public school. They don't get laid much, and need to be cautioned not to fap and and try to think at the same time.

This a a payback rant, "they wouldn't pay any attention to me at school, but boy am I going to force my opinion on them now".
 
There have been plenty of calls for a slowdown in AI development and the introduction of tighter regulation in the industry - even OpenAI boss Sam Altman and Elon Musk agree something should be done.
Oh heckskers, they're probably saying those things just so the public's collective panties won't get twisted up in too big of a bunch
 
Oh heckskers, they're probably saying those things just so the public's collective panties won't get twisted up in too big of a bunch
They were saying it while sponsoring regulation that would have given them a monopoly on AI in america. Nothing ethical about the way they do things.
I don't know where you got the dropping to 3 billion estimate from.
The UN estimate shows in their projections that by 2085 the population will be stabilizing at a bit over 10 billion.
https://ourworldindata.org/population-projections
The effects beyond that have so many variables I suspect it would at best be a guess as to whether the population declines and to what degree.
To be fair, the UN also projected that florida would be underwater 3 years ago, and that various wars would have started and finished by now. Their predictions are.....loose.

I could see the world population shrinking. India and Africa are really the only places with continual growth, and that's been slowing for years. As prices rise and restrictions tighten the number of people having kids wont increase anytime soon.
 
They were saying it while sponsoring regulation that would have given them a monopoly on AI in america. Nothing ethical about the way they do things.
That's pretty much what I was saying. They're likely saying one thing and doing the exact opposite.

Musk is still feverishly working on AI for his self driving cars. (Although I can't cite an attribution on it. CNN? Who knows, it might even be Techspot).
 
We are NEVER going to go above 10 Bill, we might not even hit 8.
China is already going through population collapse and most countries are not maintaining 2.1 kids per family.
Russia's war with Ukraine was one of the most self destructive things it could have done.

The only reason the population in the US is climbing is immigration. the population already here is not maintaining at all.

Best estimates show that over the next 50 - 200 years you will see us (everyone in the world) drop back down to 3 billion or so maybe less.

Right now we are at the peak human population.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a43351160/global-population-shortage/
We are already on 8 billion, 10 is a given. By mid century. The curve is easing off, but no where is it on the decrease.. Slower increase is still an increase.
 
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