Microsoft Won't Cut Windows Price to Beat Linux

By Mictlantecuhtli
Oct 10, 2002
  1. Apparently they seem to think advertising is better than cutting prices. Moreover, I don't see if it's necessary to market OS's like that as most of the computers already ship with them.
  2. Vehementi

    Vehementi TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,704

    Advertising? Who today who uses a PC doesn't know about Windows???

    $199?! This would be it.

    Who would ever buy that? Ooh, 800MHz C3, 8MB GFX card. Speedy! :D
  3. Mictlantecuhtli

    Mictlantecuhtli TS Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 4,345   +11

    So called "common" people who just want a cheap, working computer for simple Internet surfing, e-mail, word processing, not the latest 3D games.
    That is, the majority of users.
  4. JAV

    JAV TS Rookie Posts: 210

    Hear, hear Mictlantecuhtli! :grinthumb Altho' I'd opt for the AMD or Intel CPU models for $100 more.

    I realize this isn't the forum for it, but I notice you are running BeOS. I'm not that familiar w/it, but am interested. Could you possibly shed a little light on its operation & how well it suits your needs? :cool:

  5. Vehementi

    Vehementi TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,704

    Most people are smart enough to consult someone who knows what they're talking about before they buy a computer. And, most people who know what they're talking about would point the user in a different direction ;)
  6. poertner_1274

    poertner_1274 secroF laicepS topShceT Posts: 4,172

    M$ biggest problem is that they are greedy. And the general public's bigget problem is that they don't know any better. They will pay as much as it costs to get something from a well known company. Linux is a good OS, just not well knows, especially to beginners. I know it is free, but if they advertised a little more for it then I think people might give it a shot and take some money away from that power hungry company.
  7. Mictlantecuhtli

    Mictlantecuhtli TS Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 4,345   +11

    Hmm, where should I start? :D
    It's the best OS for me, does everything I want/need, without stupid "are you sure?" and "you need to restart for this to take effect" things.
    It's also fast and very responsive, handles memory very well, *I should know when to stop*
    One thing it lacks is games - there are some small ones but nothing new.
    Right now I'm waiting for YellowTab's release and OpenBeOS.
    The problem with a small OS like this is that big companies don't make apps for BeOS because there are too few users, and there are too few users because big companies don't make apps for BeOS. :(
  8. Vehementi

    Vehementi TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,704

    My mom just bought Windows XP Home for $94 :dead: :rolleyes:

    I offered here RH7.2 or RH8 (once it comes, thank you again deus) but she insisted upon Windows.

    I completely agree. Most people at my school have no idea what Linux is. My IT teacher suggested we setup a Linux server, but noone other than another kid and I even knew what Linux was.

    Entropy will claim the universe before I pay a bloated sum for bloatware as an OS.
  9. Phantasm66

    Phantasm66 TS Rookie Posts: 5,734   +7

    No, most people are not. Most people walk into an electronics goods store and listen to the BS that's pushed their way by a sales representative who isn't technical at all. At my work there are several people who are smart enough to ask a tech for advice before spending hard earned cash, but that's people who are computing lecturers in a university. The majority of folks out there believe what salesmen tell them. Its sad but its life and its true.
  10. poertner_1274

    poertner_1274 secroF laicepS topShceT Posts: 4,172

    It is unbeliveable what people believe out of someone's mouth. For people that dont' know any better an ***** working it an electronics store could say that a 42" plasma monitor is the best buy, and I bet someone will buy it. All it takes is a little questioning here and there and you are set, but NOOOOOOO, that is too hard, just gotta believe what the sales reps throw down your throat........Down with M$
  11. Vehementi

    Vehementi TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,704

    Yep. Sad but true. Wal-Mart could easily tell people their $200 model is top of the line, and they'd believe them.

    [rant]M$ flashes things around like "more stability!" "easier to use!" but it's all marketing gibberish. Windows not only allows you to shoot yourself in the foot, but it gives you an automatic weapon and some loaded clips as well. Windows is about as easy to screw up and corrupt as butter is to melt. Many Linux users I know haven't reinstalled or formatted their Linux installation in months, even years. This year alone, I had to format twice. I believe I did it twice, or even three times last year, too. It's a pity software developers are all in Micro$oft's boat, for Linux is so much easier to design and program software for than Windows. I would love to see more real games on Linux. The only reason I keep Windows is to play games. M$ should really get it's act together, stop acting like greedy little children, and come out with a respectable operating system. Until that day comes, I will not pay for any product by Microsoft.[/rant]
  12. JAV

    JAV TS Rookie Posts: 210


    Thanks for the info on BeOS ! & sorry I didn't reply sooner.
    :rolleyes: Been a little busy.

    'Nother quick question > if one were to have a server, which would be 'best': Linux or BeOS. That is assuming only 1 choice. Could you qualify your answer.

    It is a 'catch22' on these system, isn't it. Until some developer makes a consumer demadable program for them, they seem to stagnate.

    Thanks again,
  13. Mictlantecuhtli

    Mictlantecuhtli TS Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 4,345   +11

    There are a lot of different server usages, so I'm not going to cover them all.
    For big web hosting, I'd choose Linux, because there are a lot of server tools, applications and information on how to configure it.
    For small http/ftp/database/dhcp server tasks, I'd say BeOS with unofficial BONE (BeOS Networking Environment) is very much sufficient. Some good server apps like Apache 2 and PostgreSQL have been compiled for BeOS too.
  14. Vehementi

    Vehementi TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,704

    I would say Linux as well. A large majority of internet servers are based on Unix. I've seen a plethora of server packages in Red Hat alone. I'm not learned in the realm of BeOS, but I can tell you Linux is more suited toward servers.
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