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Microsoft's desktop Start menu won't appear until next major Windows release in 2015

By Jos
Jun 2, 2014
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  1. Seventh Reign

    Seventh Reign TS Rookie Posts: 82   +32

    I cant tell if this is a joke since you put Windows 7 2nd ...............................

    If its not a joke ...... WTF are you smoking? Windows ME was the unquestioned WORST Windows release of all time. It made Vista look awesome!

    If it was a joke .... I still dont get it ..
  2. Steve

    Steve TechSpot Staff Posts: 1,364   +458 Staff Member

    Install any number of start button programs and fix Windows 8 for free in seconds. With the help of programs such as Classic Start or Pokki for example Win8 becomes their best OS yet. Having used these start programs so much now I think I would install them on Windows 7 and future Windows releases anyway, so much more customization is available.
  3. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,690   +884

    OK, the strategy I see here, is the fact that M$ gets to wait another year to admit that Windows 8 was a huge mistake.

    Which, given the short lived memory of the general pubic, can only serve to help distance them from that epic fail.

    Ah, to have the need for desktop backgrounds again.will be glorious, a veritable renaissance!

    Now really, which would you rather have on your desktop, "live tiles", or a fox like Jennifer Love Hewitt? ;)

    Caution: Clicking to Enlarge Image May Cause Irreparable Damage to the Male Libido!

    [​IMG]

    Now that's what I call, "a mixed metaphor"......:p
    Last edited: Jun 3, 2014
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  4. uh oh someone took the bait!
  5. Yes, you are right. But the search feature in Windows 8 is very professional. I hope they don't remove it in windows 9. Right?
  6. I though "Their" was funnier.
  7. ddg4005

    ddg4005 TS Enthusiast Posts: 245   +23

    Disappointing but not that surprising. Microsoft needs something with which to distinguish Windows 9 from 8.1 and a revamped start menu is it.
  8. RustyTech

    RustyTech TS Enthusiast Posts: 121   +39

    "Of course, you don’t need to wait for Microsoft’s official release to get the familiar Start menu experience..."

    You're absolutely correct! It's something I like to call Windows 7.
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  9. NotParker

    NotParker TS Rookie Posts: 18   +6

    I'm not surprised. Microsoft can be very, very stubborn about their mistakes.

    Win 7.5 please. With NVMe support.
  10. TheBigFatClown

    TheBigFatClown TS Booster Posts: 431   +145

    I've always considered Jennifer Anniston one of my bitches. She is hot!!!! :)
    Oops wrong Jennifer but I could live with a mistake like this.
    Last edited: Jun 3, 2014
  11. TheBigFatClown

    TheBigFatClown TS Booster Posts: 431   +145

    So your first sentence tells us all that you agree. Windows 8 is "broken". So, thank you for that admission. Microsoft themselves are already preparing the return of the Start Menu so that becomes a non-issue when discussing the future success of Windows 9.
    To suggest to anybody with half a brain that the "only" reason Windows 8 is broken is because it lacks a start menu is ridiculous. I could also go out and buy a "fixer upper" home and it would be the "best home I ever bought" immediately after I......painted all the walls, fixed the leaking toilet, replaced the leaking roof, etc.

    Windows 8 ain't anywhere NEAR what 99% of businesses want in a work environment and probably 50% of home users want in a home environment. In other words, to use Microsofts own words, the "out-of-box-experience" is a failure. And telling me to hunt down additional software to make it right means your giving Microsoft a free pass which is really odd. We ***** it all up. Now, YOU go fix it.

    Windows 8 is a "failure". Microsoft implicitly acknowledges this by the return of the start menu, by the addition of the "boot to desktop" option. And by the fact that "Windows 9" is being released in a year in a desperate attempt to make everybody forget Windows 8 ever happened. It's like Microsoft's bastard child. They just wanna make it go away now.
     
  12. raybk

    raybk TS Rookie Posts: 30

    Shame on Micro$oft who don't respect users need.
    That's why Windows 8 has such poor sales than older Windows versions.
  13. GeforcerFX

    GeforcerFX TS Booster Posts: 330   +48

    Great move by Microsoft. All of you guys need to stop thinking like enthusiasts (tiny part of market for Microsoft) and put yourselves in the shoes of the average computer user(majority market). I had over 200 calls and people come into the store after update 1 because of the small UI changes that Microsoft made in that update. Adding back in the start menu would just confuse the crap out of these people who have spent all the time with there new computers learning how to navigate in windows 8/8.1. For us enthusiasts it sucks sure, but all the enthusiasts who wanted a start menu have just been using some 3rd party program since launch and are prob still fine. Not only that this start menu is nothing special, most people will prob still find something to complain about when its launched in Threshhold. Making the start menu comeback in the Threshold will work much better for the average users who have a harder time adapting to all the changes that happen in the OS world atm.
  14. S_Brideau

    S_Brideau TS Rookie

    What's the fuss about not having a classic style start menu? Or if they would just add the possiblity to choose between the classic start menu or the metro interface, that would be awesome. Even though the Metro interface is now called the "Modern" interface. I find it better than the old start menu because it has all the functionalities the start menu had, and more. Even my computer illiterate brother likes it, saying that it's the same as the old start menu, just designed differently. I personally agree with that as you can find all the options you had, you just have to know where they are. Plus with 8.1 Update 1 they made it better for use with a mouse.
  15. Railman

    Railman TS Enthusiast Posts: 614   +81

    I find it ironic that had MS provided users the choice between Metro and traditional GUI in the first place there would not have been the huge backlash towards W8. It is even possible that Metro would have gained a following.

    It will be interesting to see if MS can continue with their success/failure cycle with the introduction of W9.
  16. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 4,659   +82

    Should be W9 with Metro UI and W10 without Metro UI but the draw is Metro UI so that won't go away. Memory management to run old W7 and W8 on W8.1 Update 1 drains system and you have to keep cleaning and freeing. Not around the clock but you need to keep on eye on it. Sure programs like JetClean and JetBoost can cure those woes for now.
  17. Imagine the scene, in a mystical temple atop a high mist covered mountain.......

    Wise Master: Welcome to the modern world Microsoft. Once you were great and did great things but your greed and arrogance will be your downfall.

    MS: What do you mean Wise Master?

    Wise Master: A long time ago you built a machine that everyone could use and the people loved it and you became wealthy and strong but sadly you became greedy, complacent and arrogant and you thought that the people would accept anything you put before them!

    MS: But there was no one to stop us Wise Master, we became invincible!

    Wise Master: You became stupid and ignorant and your machine went out of control wreaking havoc with its constant updates, crashes, error messages, pop-ups and overwhelming difficulty to use and confusing interface. The ancient ones in our civilization saw this and they turned their backs on you in their droves, driven to worship that which you call the false gods, iPad and Android!

    MS: But we have a new machine Wise Master!

    Wise Master: Ha, do you expect the Surface and Windows 8 to win their hearts? It has come too late Microsoft, touch screen left you behind and now you pay the price!

    MS: Oh Wise Master tell us what we can do to put things right?

    Wise Master: It is too late! Don't you see? Unless you bring your machine under control, it will destroy you. Only a complete revamp of your OS will offer any hope of redemption. Teach your machine simplicity, make it easy to use. No one cares about the garbage you allow your machine to consume.The people just want to access the Internet, play games, e-mail and communicate with each other without having more than one way in which to do it!

    MS: I think I see Wise Master. Perhaps we should heed the words of the gods iPad and Android but do things better next time!

    Wise Master: (Raising his voice) Exactly! Now go and scrap the cr*p that you have been trying to force the people to use for these long years and become stronger and wiser in the process. And Microsoft, remember, if I see you trying to enslave the people or extort their hard earned money again, your downfall will be swift and painful!

    MS: (Backing away whilst bowing low) Yes oh wise and wonderful Master. We must listen and learn and never become arrogant or greedy again!
  18. Off topic, but have you disappeared from KTZ?
  19. Same old, same old, from Micro$oft, they're just like raspberries. You'll get a good harvest every other year/version. Main reason why I never "upgraded" to Win 8, and will wait for Win 9. I know their pattern after the last 30 years of running their OS's....


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