Musk's Twitter ambitions receive first reality check, courtesy of the EU

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The big picture: Elon Musk wants to improve Twitter with a much-awaited edit button, a transparent algorithm, fewer spambots, and a more attractive environment for people who want to discuss hot topics. Buying the company was the easy part — delivering on his promises while appeasing regulators worldwide and keeping the company afloat will be a monumental effort.

Elon Musk's bid to take Twitter private has unanimous support from Twitter's board. Now everyone is busy debating the future of the social platform under the new leadership, his motivations behind the move, and even his sincerity in protecting free speech. Beyond the ground-level realization that one of Twitter's most avid (and controversial) users is the sole owner of the platform, there are several regulatory hurdles the company will need to overcome in the coming months and years.

European officials have already set their eyes on the Twitter takeover. It comes hot on the heels of a provisional Digital Services Act that will soon force tech giants to moderate the content on their online platforms more aggressively.

In other words, the new legislation will require companies like Twitter to ensure that harmful content like threats, harassment, revenge porn, and calls for violence is taken down before it has any significant negative impact on users. The company faces fines of up to six percent of its global annual revenue and even a ban from operating in the European Union for not complying.

Those are the remarks of Thierry Breton, EU's commissioner for overseeing the internal market. Breton told the Financial Times that Elon Musk's idea to turn Twitter into a "digital town square where matters vital to the future of humanity are debated" is welcome, but not without some adaptations. He noted it's not Musk's relaxed moderation rules that will apply in Europe but rather the rules encompassed in the Digital Services Act.

In the meantime, Twitter has locked down product updates through Friday to prevent things like disgruntled employees from making unwanted changes to the source code. The company's 7,000 employees have yet to be told what role they play in the new Twitter or if they'll have any at all.

Some believe a private Twitter has more potential to evolve in a positive way that just couldn't be done while catering to the interests of shareholders. Others aren't convinced this is the right direction and are still struggling to understand how things went from Musk becoming a passive shareholder to being invited on the board of directors to offering to buy the company outright.

When zooming out, it's still hard to look at the big picture and not wonder if there's some underlying strategy to this madness. The acquisition will take around six months to complete, and regulators are going to have a field trip with what will come of it. Meanwhile, management told employees at an all-hands meeting that their stock compensation was going the way of the dodo. Elon Musk doesn't have the best track record for managing employees, so "Tweeps" are rightly concerned about what is about to happen to the organization.

There is an expectation among pundits that a private Twitter will lead to some level of attrition, even as CEO Parag Agrawal maintains there wouldn't be any layoffs, at least in the short term. The company has not been able to grow beyond a certain point, and its problems have only multiplied over the past few years. Now it has a singular owner that seeks to transform it into everyone's primary destination for staying in the know about major ongoing events.

Nevertheless, how Musk structured the acquisition deal will create significant pressure to turn Twitter into a more profitable enterprise, something that calls into question a recent statement made during a TED presentation where he said he didn't care about the economics of buying the company.

Former Twitter CEO and co-founder Jack Dorsey says Musk is the "singular solution I trust" for fixing the company's failings. He notes that moving away from the Wall Street-friendly ad model would be an excellent first step in serving the public conversation better. It's not yet clear how Twitter will be able to thrive without ads, especially since very few people seem inclined to pay for a Twitter Blue subscription to access additional features and perks.

One thing is for sure — Twitter failed as a public company, and now it has a chance to rise out of its ashes after being burned down by its attempt to appease shareholders. The big question: Is a billionaire like Musk the right person to do it?

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Personally, if I ran a social media, I'd give you a thumb up/ thumb down button, love emoji, sad emoji and laugh emoji.

That said: Twitter's not very popular. It's 15th in the world in social media popularity and doesn't make much money. Why Musk bought it instead of making his own, I have no idea.

This is the biggest waste of money ever.

Even looking at Facebook you can clearly see the decline of social media popularity partly due to Apple/ Google privacy settings and partly due to lib-tarded censorship nonsense.
 
Personally, if I ran a social media, I'd give you a thumb up/ thumb down button, love emoji, sad emoji and laugh emoji.

That said: Twitter's not very popular. It's 15th in the world in social media popularity and doesn't make much money. Why Musk bought it instead of making his own, I have no idea.

This is the biggest waste of money ever.

Even looking at Facebook you can clearly see the decline of social media popularity partly due to Apple/ Google privacy settings and partly due to lib-tarded censorship nonsense.

If he started from scratch it would be at least a year before anything came of it. Plus he's also buying millions of users. Its worth the money if Mr. Musk comes up with a novel way to balance privacy, freedom and speech and revenue generation. He's probably among the very few who could pull it off.
 
Personally, if I ran a social media, I'd give you a thumb up/ thumb down button, love emoji, sad emoji and laugh emoji.

That said: Twitter's not very popular. It's 15th in the world in social media popularity and doesn't make much money. Why Musk bought it instead of making his own, I have no idea.

This is the biggest waste of money ever.

Even looking at Facebook you can clearly see the decline of social media popularity partly due to Apple/ Google privacy settings and partly due to lib-tarded censorship nonsense.
The value is the users on there and some of them are really high profile, such as himself.
 
I wonder when the EU will rule that "harmful content" like conservative political opinions and religious views need to be moderated and taken down.

It is possible to hold conservative political opinions that are not based on ignorance, lies or malice.

Such opinions would surely be warmly received if they ever became fashionable again in right wing circles.
 
It is possible to hold conservative political opinions that are not based on ignorance, lies or malice.

Such opinions would surely be warmly received if they ever became fashionable again in right wing circles.
I'm pretty sure the only opinions you'll be "warmly receiving" are ones that are distinctly left-leaning. So I wouldn't expect them to become fashionable in right-wing circles any time soon.

Moreover, you're embodying the typical approach of labeling dissenting opinions as "hate speech" in order to get them shut down.
 
I'm pretty sure the only opinions you'll be "warmly receiving" are ones that are distinctly left-leaning. So I wouldn't expect them to become fashionable in right-wing circles any time soon.
You can be as sure as you are wrong, but let’s not pretend that the populist/libertarian sh*tshow that is dominant among right wingers these days is conservatism.
Moreover, you're embodying the typical approach of labeling dissenting opinions as "hate speech" in order to get them shut down.
It is the excesses like hate speech that are running afoul of the rules. Stop playing the victim card and extrapolating that to claiming conservative voices are being suppressed.
 
LOL. The arrogance of the EU elites is truly entertaining.

"Breton... noted it's not Musk's relaxed moderation rules that will apply in Europe but rather the rules encompassed in the Digital Services Act."

Mr. Breton has delusions of grandeur. He believes that the EU represents all of Europe. He forgot about Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Kazakhstan, Serbia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, North Macedonia, Montenegro, Andorra, Monaco, San Marino, Vatican City, Liechtenstein, Turkey, Albania, Switzerland, Norway, Iceland and the United Kingdom.

Musk should just ban Mr. Breton from Twitter and be done with it. The EU cannot stop Musk from censoring people.

They act as though Musk is a noobie. You don't accumulate 1/4 Trillion Dollars by being stupid. Musk probably has a dedicated legal team handling EU content moderation issues.


 
You can be as sure as you are wrong, but let’s not pretend that the populist/libertarian ******** that is dominant among right wingers these days is conservatism.

It is the excesses like hate speech that are running afoul of the rules. Stop playing the victim card and extrapolating that to claiming conservative voices are being suppressed.
I'm unfamiliar with the meaning of the labels "populist" or "libertarian", as I don't spend a lot of time studying politics or political labels. When I said conservative, I simply meant right-leaning, as opposed to left-leaning, regardless of how you want to label it.

I'm pretty sure that if I were to express my views on gender and sexuality, they would be labeled as hate speech and shut down. But I don't agree that it's hate speech. It's convenient that I can't be allowed to express my views because of people who disagree with me declaring my viewpoints verboten on social media networks.
 
Personally, if I ran a social media, I'd give you a thumb up/ thumb down button, love emoji, sad emoji and laugh emoji.

That said: Twitter's not very popular. It's 15th in the world in social media popularity and doesn't make much money. Why Musk bought it instead of making his own, I have no idea.

This is the biggest waste of money ever.

Even looking at Facebook you can clearly see the decline of social media popularity partly due to Apple/ Google privacy settings and partly due to lib-tarded censorship nonsense.

Well. As you correctly pointed out, the Leftist social media platforms are losing money because of their draconian censorship policies. The old saying is that the Customer is ALWAYS right. Money talks, BS walks. You don't make money if you argue with your customers over politics.

Twitter has tremendous potential. If Trump returns, millions will come with him. It translates into some great profit potential.

I'm not pro-Trump but this whole scenario could turn out to be one of the truly great financial coups of all time. No credit to Trump.
 
Even looking at Facebook you can clearly see the decline of social media popularity partly due to Apple/ Google privacy settings and partly due to lib-tarded censorship nonsense.

It's amazing how the Reptilicans and their ilk are busy distracting people with Twitter's alleged horrendous "censorship"....while sycophants - like Florida's slimy DeathSantis - are busy banning over FIFTY math books (!!) because.....they may contain something that doesn't agree with their pathetic agendas!!

Guess which one has higher importance to this country? But again, Reptilicans have always been known for their distaste for public education. An illiterate voter is their main demographic target.

And they wear their moral flexibility like a badge of honor!!
 
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Personally, if I ran a social media, I'd give you a thumb up/ thumb down button, love emoji, sad emoji and laugh emoji.

That said: Twitter's not very popular. It's 15th in the world in social media popularity and doesn't make much money. Why Musk bought it instead of making his own, I have no idea.

This is the biggest waste of money ever.

Even looking at Facebook you can clearly see the decline of social media popularity partly due to Apple/ Google privacy settings and partly due to lib-tarded censorship nonsense.
Have you seen this tweet? It might help explain why Elon Musk bought Twitter. Mind you this was five years ago he was thinking about this:
 
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The Babylon Bee was banned from Twitter for naming Rachel Levine its Man of the Year.
I was going to tell you they are satire with your Hunter post yesterday, but I was enjoying the moment, so I played offense.

So they probably shouldn't have been banned because they are 100% satire? Is that your defense? Because I happen to agree. I like Babylon Bee and Im a subscriber. I think they are hilarious and funny is funny. I mean Bob Billybale? That is hilarious!

Between Babylon Bee and The Onion Im happy.

I can't believe you think they are real though.
 
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I was going to tell you they are satire with your Hunter post yesterday, but I was enjoying the moment, so I played offense.

So they probably shouldn't have been banned because they are 100% satire? Is that your defense? Because I happen to agree. I like Babylon Bee and Im a subscriber. I think they are hilarious and funny is funny. I mean Bob Billybale? That is hilarious!

Between Babylon Bee and The Onion Im happy.

I can't believe you think they are real though.
Why do you think they were banned and yes anyone with an IQ above a turnip knows it's a satire site.
 
You had me interested right up until you gave an example, without an example.
What would you say about gender and sexuality that would get scrubbed?
I didn't want to say it because I didn't want to risk being banned. That's the state of affairs these days on many websites, though Techspot does seem to be less right-wing censor-happy than most sites I've seen recently. Suffice it to say that my views towards gender and sexuality are what could be considered traditional, Christian views.

The Babylon Bee was banned from Twitter for naming Rachel Levine its Man of the Year.
A lot of the BB's stuff is hilarious. And honestly, being banned from Twitter could be seen as a badge of honor.

So they probably shouldn't have been banned because they are 100% satire? Is that your defense? Because I happen to agree. I like Babylon Bee and Im a subscriber. I think they are hilarious and funny is funny. I mean Bob Billybale? That is hilarious!

Between Babylon Bee and The Onion Im happy.

I can't believe you think they are real though.
Obviously it's a satire site. Their tagline is "Fake News You Can Trust." But it's equally obvious that they actually hold conservative views, being, you know, a Christian satire equivalent to the Onion.

Incidentally...
 
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Why do you think they were banned and yes anyone with an IQ above a turnip knows it's a satire site.
Ok cool. You just seemed so damn serious in that post yesterday, I thought you believed it.

So you asked why I think they were banned, and I think it was the dangerous combination of overblown self-importance mixed with the complete lack of a sense of humor.

Incidentally...
:laughing: I saw that earlier today.

So in return, check this out from the Onion:

 
So Techspot represent a leftist agenda according to this article's author. Without saying it outright. Just hiding behind unknowns. Got it. And fair enough. There exist worse bitches.
 
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