My PC keeps freezing

By Adilost
Jan 29, 2011
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  1. Hello everyone,

    I've came across some difficulties with my PC. So I've started a topic a few days ago in the "Virus and Malware Removal" section of this Forum.

    Under guidance of Broni from this forum, I have took some certain steps which you can follow here: http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic160141.html

    Unfortunately, my PC still keeps freezing.
    So i got tired of it, and decided to format my C: Drive. Fortunately for me, I have an external Hard Drive where I have saved all my Projects, Mp3, Movies, Pictures, etc etc.. So it was not that big of sacrifice.

    But after Installing Windows XP clean, I started to update my "Windows Updates" first from the Windows Update Website.

    After all that was done I began to install only the necessary programs like Avast Anti-Virus & Malwarebytes Anti-Malware.

    So when I went to bed I thought let's scan with Avast via the Schedule Scan. Tis seems to be an option that scans your Windows before it starts up. So i thought not a bad idea.. When I woke up and looked at my PC, it was frozen again. So I had to reboot my machine, after it was rebooted I looked in the Log file of the scan, and there Avast had found a few treat's. So i chose delete them, rebooted my PC. And a little time after it was rebooted, frozen again..

    When i did a little search, I came across some interesting things. I first wanted to lay it down on you and hoped for your advice, since i don't know what to do..

    So I read a similar problem here:
    http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic26226.html

    One talks about setting timings for CPU and Memory, also Jumpers of the Motherboard?
    The other claims it could be the video card..

    I found this link also interesting:
    http://www.wisegeek.com/what-should-i-do-when-my-computer-freezes.htm

    Here is claimed that Bad random access memory (RAM) modules can also cause freezes, though RAM usually doesn’t “go bad” once installed unless damaged by overheating. Improperly adjusting BIOS clock settings for over-clocking can also cause problems, including freezing.

    And here: http://ezinearticles.com/?Why-Does-...---A-Guide-to-Fix-Computer-Freezes&id=1577900

    They are saying that it could be a sort of messed up Register, that unwanted info there can make freezes and that via registry clean up tool it could be fixed.

    Here also a similar tool: http://computerfreezes.net/

    But since Broni adviced me earlier to stay away from that kind of tools I stay away from it.
    Just informing you guys what i came across while i was doing some research.

    To me it is to much tech detail. I'm sure it says more to you then me :)
    So therefor, hope you can show me "which door to take"..

    Therefor Broni have forwarded me to this section of the forum. Maybe some one who can help me with this situation? I mean it is kind of irritating.

    Looking forward for any kind of reply!
    Thanks in advance..

    Cheers!
  2. Adilost

    Adilost Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 28

  3. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,109   +21

    The concern here is that even after Broni's work and your reformatting there are more threats detected.

    Run Avast and Malwarebytes (both are great softwares but watch Malwarebytes. It gave me two false positives yesterday). Tell us if you have found anymore threats. Infections will often mess with the OS.
  4. Adilost

    Adilost Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 28

    Thanks Route44 for your reply :)

    Well to be honest the threats that were detected after I reformatting the C: were on my External Hard Disk F:

    Before i did a format on C: I disconnected my External HD

    After I re-installed Windows XP on my system I first did al the Microsoft Updates.
    Then I installed only Avast & Malwarebytes Anti-Malware, after all that was done i did with both softwares a quick scan, without any detection of any kind of danger.

    After that was done, I connected my HD again to my PC.
    After that I chose Schedule Scan with Avast before going to bed.

    So i rebooted my PC en before windows was starting Avast did his Scan, the next day when i woke up i looked and my PC was frozen again. But after Avast was finished scanning.

    So I rebooted my PC again.. And when it was all loaded, i looked in the log of the scan Avast created.
    It had detected some possible threats on the External HD. I think most of the threats where keygens.

    I heard once that some Anti-Virus apps read this sort programmed applications as a worm, virus, etc etc.. Because it was programmed by the same characteristic way or something..

    Anyway, i removed them of course.. Because to hell with those things, If my PC changes to normal again, right?

    So i removed them, did a reboot, did a scan again with both software which resulted both in no threats.

    But again, my PC Froze..

    But come to think of it..

    I did update my BIOS a while ago.. Could this be maybe why my PC freezes?
    There for if i remember correctly my PC was fine..
  5. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,109   +21

    Is it only in start-up scans with Avast now that cause these freezes? Do the following and take special note of Yellow Triangles and especially Red Xs and what they flag.

    Start > Run > type in EventVwr.msc > Okay
  6. Adilost

    Adilost Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 28

    Nope it freezes randomly.. Sometimes within 1 hour, sometimes within 12 hours.
    Not only when Avast is Scanning.

    Is it still needed to post those logs you are talking about? If yes, which ones from the left frame?
  7. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,109   +21

    No logs needed. But are you getting any Yellow Triangles or Red Xs from Event Viewer and if so what are they flagging?
  8. g3rsiu

    g3rsiu Newcomer, in training Posts: 40

    check hdd

    test your hdd - use wester digital appa called windlg (datalifeguard)

    it could be that your hdd has some bad sectors, and after formating, OS crucial data resides on them.

    a ram test is also recommended
  9. Adilost

    Adilost Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 28

    Oke here is a little report, I wanted to wait a few days to make it sure..
    But it seems the freezing is over! :)

    My PC has not frozen in 48 hours now, without turning it off.
    What I did was, I turned of my computer. Unplugged the cables and all.

    I vacuum cleaned it from the inside (fan, etc etc), and I did a reset on the CMOS jumper on my computer's motherboard.

    After that I plugged in all the cables back again, I powered up my PC again, and chose in the Blue BIOS screen "Load Optimized Settings".

    Since then my computer seems to be work again normally. At least the freezing is over as it seems :)
    YEAH!

    Just thought I let you guys know. And again, many thanks for your effort! Really appreciate it.
  10. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,109   +21

    Thanks for the update. How dusty was your system? Sounds like it was either a heat issue due to dust build up causing the freezing or that a cable or two were loose and you reset them.
  11. g3rsiu

    g3rsiu Newcomer, in training Posts: 40

    yup - us techies do tempt to assume some checks in regard to the "health" of the unit was done - overtemp in most cases is the first thing to be checked/noticed.


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